jules · Nov 18, 2005, 11:55 PM // 23:55

Just downloaded fraps to check out the framerate on GW.. on 1/3 quality it's about 25 and at full quality it's 23. Just curious as to whether these are decent numbers so that I know what the best setting are for my graphics. Thanks.

Kamatsu · Nov 19, 2005, 02:14 AM // 02:14

You must have a slow computer to get low fps like that..

I sit on 60 average with everything set high, except shadows, and no AA.. it usually only ever drop's into the 50's when there are a lot of critters on the screen doing skills..

If I stick AA on my fps drops down to an average of ~45 or so.. same goes with shadows.. if I stick them both on I drop to an average of ~35 or so fps.. (btw, whats limiting my fps is not my cpu or video card, but the crappy 14" monitor I have that can't handle more than that

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BTW, I don't trust FRAPS at all. It was telling me I was getting a max of 30 fps in GW when the GW in-game fps counter was saying I was getting 60.. and the look & feel & responsiveness of the images/game was of 60 fps and not 30 fps.. and yes, you can tell the difference when you have a number of critters and effect's going off..

So I'd advise sticking -perf at the end of your GW shortcut loader.. Right-click on it and select "Properties".. in the Target box you'll see the link to the GW.exe file there.. in quote's.. after the quotes put in a space and then -perf .. this will show the fps in-game.. and IMO it's a whole lot more accurate than FRAPS is.

As for whats "good" - try playing it at the different settings and see what your comfy playing at. I remember on my old comp I used to shock my flatmate when i played Morrowind.. I was playing with 5-6 fps! and I was happy doing so... now, I'd die trying to play it that slow.. hehehe.. but with the comp I had back then, that was excellent fps for me! hehehe.. and I found it playable enough for my like's..

So in the end, what everyone else might find unplayable (ie 23-25 fps) you might find perfectly playable for yourself. So basically try the setting out and find what gives you a mix of performance and looks that you could play with and stick with it.

chippxero · Nov 19, 2005, 02:53 AM // 02:53

In a game like Guildwars it's going to be changing all the time, somewhere like lions arch i would expect most peoples FPS to drop heavily compared to somewhere like Beetletun where you're less likely to have 30-50 players running around.

You really just need to see what feels good while playing, people take too much notice of FPS counters i find when they didn't notice anything wrong performance wise till it said 25 and then they start playing with settings.

One and Two · Nov 19, 2005, 02:53 AM // 02:53

I find MMO's and such can be played at 20fps...
FPS games should be played at 60fps.

20 is fine if you dont mind. A lot of movies are at 24, I think.

deathwearer · Nov 19, 2005, 03:39 AM // 03:39

FPS in movies is another story.

Don't use FRAPS to know your FPS. Use the one of guildwars which is way more accurate simply because it have been coded within the game and it's not a third-party (fraps..) prog.

Kamatsu · Nov 19, 2005, 05:20 AM // 05:20

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Originally Posted by chippxero

In a game like Guildwars it's going to be changing all the time, somewhere like lions arch i would expect most peoples FPS to drop heavily compared to somewhere like Beetletun where you're less likely to have 30-50 players running around.

This is definately true - if you enter a high population town/outpost you'll find your fps will tend to be lower than when you enter a deserted town/outpost. The same applies when in missions and/or explorable area's - the more monsters/effect's on your screen, the worse your fps will get as your computer tries to draw, re-draw, track, etc all those monsters, effect's, etc.

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You really just need to see what feels good while playing, people take too much notice of FPS counters i find when they didn't notice anything wrong performance wise till it said 25 and then they start playing with settings.

LOL Yeah, too many players do pay too much attention to fps. The thing is, a lot of player's play or played 1st person shooter's like HL, UT200x, Quake, etc.. where getting a very high fps is vital.. where if you have low fps (ie like say under 30.. LOL) you were at a marked disadvantage when playing against people with higher fps than you.. In that environment it's vital to squeeze every fps you can out of this..

I've always found it amusing to see the comments about modern fps'ers.. like "The game looks great at max setting! great job.. then I turned everything off and to min setting's for best fps..".. It's always amused me to see game companies put out these lovely looking and sounding games.. just to have the "mainstream" players of those games turn everything off/down to get the best performance.. LOL (I know why they do it, it's still amusing)

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Originally Posted by One and Two

I find MMO's and such can be played at 20fps...
FPS games should be played at 60fps.

Thing is though, if you PvP a lot you will still want to tweak things for a high fps. While PvP in GW is nothing compared to the speed and hype of.. say UT2004 .. if your runnign at 25 fps when you could be at say 35 fps ... that difference could lead to you being slower to react to stuff and thus lead to "Your party has been defeated you n00b!"

Seriously though, if you PvP .. you might want to consider dropping some of the fancy graphics in favor of better performance.. and up the graphics when doing PvE.. as in PvE the fps gain/loss won't make that much of a difference..

But in the end - find a mix of performance and quality that you can play with and play at that. Ignore fps and such nonsense really.. unless your a die-hard gamer who absolutely has to have the best fps ever... find whats playable and enjoyable for you and stick with it

Gustav Gloomp · Nov 19, 2005, 05:23 AM // 05:23

i get 52 at LA dis 1 and 2. the lowest i get is around 47-ish. i usually hav around 58-67 fps now (got more ram)

One and Two · Nov 19, 2005, 05:25 AM // 05:25

I'm getting 100fps right now, max settings (4x AA). =P

But yeah, id suggest at least 30fps

jules · Nov 19, 2005, 11:14 AM // 11:14

Ok thanks for the answers.. I'll try out the ingame counter and see what I get.

(erp just realised this belongs in the technical forum.. sorry, mods)

Nov 18, 2005, 11:55 PM // 23:55	#1
jules Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jul 2005 Guild: Xen of Sigils [XoO]	Quick question on framerate Just downloaded fraps to check out the framerate on GW.. on 1/3 quality it's about 25 and at full quality it's 23. Just curious as to whether these are decent numbers so that I know what the best setting are for my graphics. Thanks.

Nov 19, 2005, 02:14 AM // 02:14	#2
Kamatsu Moderator Join Date: May 2005 Location: Australia	You must have a slow computer to get low fps like that.. I sit on 60 average with everything set high, except shadows, and no AA.. it usually only ever drop's into the 50's when there are a lot of critters on the screen doing skills.. If I stick AA on my fps drops down to an average of ~45 or so.. same goes with shadows.. if I stick them both on I drop to an average of ~35 or so fps.. (btw, whats limiting my fps is not my cpu or video card, but the crappy 14" monitor I have that can't handle more than that ) BTW, I don't trust FRAPS at all. It was telling me I was getting a max of 30 fps in GW when the GW in-game fps counter was saying I was getting 60.. and the look & feel & responsiveness of the images/game was of 60 fps and not 30 fps.. and yes, you can tell the difference when you have a number of critters and effect's going off.. So I'd advise sticking -perf at the end of your GW shortcut loader.. Right-click on it and select "Properties".. in the Target box you'll see the link to the GW.exe file there.. in quote's.. after the quotes put in a space and then -perf .. this will show the fps in-game.. and IMO it's a whole lot more accurate than FRAPS is. As for whats "good" - try playing it at the different settings and see what your comfy playing at. I remember on my old comp I used to shock my flatmate when i played Morrowind.. I was playing with 5-6 fps! and I was happy doing so... now, I'd die trying to play it that slow.. hehehe.. but with the comp I had back then, that was excellent fps for me! hehehe.. and I found it playable enough for my like's.. So in the end, what everyone else might find unplayable (ie 23-25 fps) you might find perfectly playable for yourself. So basically try the setting out and find what gives you a mix of performance and looks that you could play with and stick with it.

Nov 19, 2005, 02:53 AM // 02:53	#3
chippxero Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005 Location: norfolk Guild: Super Anti Rabbit Squad [SARS] Profession: Mo/Me	In a game like Guildwars it's going to be changing all the time, somewhere like lions arch i would expect most peoples FPS to drop heavily compared to somewhere like Beetletun where you're less likely to have 30-50 players running around. You really just need to see what feels good while playing, people take too much notice of FPS counters i find when they didn't notice anything wrong performance wise till it said 25 and then they start playing with settings.

Nov 19, 2005, 02:53 AM // 02:53	#4
One and Two Jungle Guide Join Date: Aug 2005	I find MMO's and such can be played at 20fps... FPS games should be played at 60fps. 20 is fine if you dont mind. A lot of movies are at 24, I think.

Nov 19, 2005, 03:39 AM // 03:39	#5
deathwearer Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005 Location: Canada/Quebec Guild: Silentum Altum Profession: E/Mo	FPS in movies is another story. Don't use FRAPS to know your FPS. Use the one of guildwars which is way more accurate simply because it have been coded within the game and it's not a third-party (fraps..) prog.

Nov 19, 2005, 05:23 AM // 05:23	#7
Gustav Gloomp Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Sydney, Australia	i get 52 at LA dis 1 and 2. the lowest i get is around 47-ish. i usually hav around 58-67 fps now (got more ram)

Nov 19, 2005, 05:25 AM // 05:25	#8
One and Two Jungle Guide Join Date: Aug 2005	I'm getting 100fps right now, max settings (4x AA). =P But yeah, id suggest at least 30fps

Nov 19, 2005, 11:14 AM // 11:14	#9
jules Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jul 2005 Guild: Xen of Sigils [XoO]	Ok thanks for the answers.. I'll try out the ingame counter and see what I get. (erp just realised this belongs in the technical forum.. sorry, mods)