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dtm.exe · Nov 21, 2005, 03:25 PM // 15:25

With the Knight's armor, do the absorpsion runes that are preapplied stack or do they conflict with each other?

darkMishkin · Nov 21, 2005, 03:31 PM // 15:31

Once upon a time, many people asked the same questions, over and over again, and this became a great annoyance to many other people. This led to the invention of the search button.

= Wear ONE piece of Knight's Armour, and ONE absorbsion rune. Your whole body will be gain the benefits of both.

msih

Dralspire · Nov 21, 2005, 03:34 PM // 15:34

Only the one highest rune of a particular type creates a positive effect. All applied runes create their respective effect on health, regardless of their positive effect for a character.

What this means is this: If you apply 5 minor runes of absorption to your 5 pieces of armor, you get the effect of 1 minor rune of absorption for your character.

If you apply 5 superior runes of absorption to your 5 pieces of armor, you get the effect of 1 superior rune of absorption.

If you apply 5 superior runes of healing to your 5 pieces of armor, you get the effect of 1 superior rune of healing, but 5 times the superior rune health reduction (-75 health each).

If you apply 1 minor rune of absorption, 1 major rune of absorption, and 1 superior rune of absorption to 3 pieces of your armor, you get the effect of 1 superior rune of absorption.

If you apply 1 minor rune of healing, 1 major rune of healing, and 1 superior rune of healing to 3 pieces of your armor, you get the effect of 1 superior rune of healing, but the negative health effect from the major rune of healing and the superior rune of healing.

dtm.exe · Nov 21, 2005, 03:40 PM // 15:40

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Originally Posted by darkMishkin

Once upon a time, many people asked the same questions, over and over again, and this became a great annoyance to many other people. This led to the invention of the search button.

= Wear ONE piece of Knight's Armour, and ONE absorbsion rune. Your whole body will be gain the benefits of both.

msih

I wouldn't have posted unless I couldn't find the right thread. I saw it afterwards.

dtm.exe · Nov 21, 2005, 03:43 PM // 15:43

Looking at this thread, I am left confused as to whether they stack or not. According to one user that quoted something from the Guild Wars website, they stack, in a sense. According to others, Knight's boots would suffice for the entire body. So which is it and why?

darkMishkin · Nov 21, 2005, 03:47 PM // 15:47

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Originally Posted by dtm.exe

I wouldn't have posted unless I couldn't find the right thread. I saw it afterwards.

Sorry if I sounded angry, but I did answer the question too

I don't really mind answering the same questions repeatedly; it makes me look more cleverer

apologies - msih

Shimus DarkRaven · Nov 21, 2005, 03:50 PM // 15:50

Because it's a "Global" Effect, my friend. "Global" means you only need one for the whole effect you'd get wearing a full suit of it.

Example: Instead of getting full Knights because you think it'll keep reducing damage, you're wrong. One piece suffices; it gives you the absorption.

Urban Legend: You need all pieces because the knight's reduction only applies to the location it's on. WRONG. It's a "Global" effect, thus one piece reduces on a whole.

Also with absorption runes, it stacks ontop of the already "Global" knight's effect, but don't put in multiple runes, because runes don't "stack" allowing for super reduction. One rune cancels another rune of the same type out.

In effect: You're wearing knight's boots <with whatever else armor> with an absorption rune in it..and you're hit for damage. Damage is calculated, THEN the effects from knight's/absorption rune kicks in to reduce damage.

It doesn't matter what slot you put the knight's armor on, personally, just for something different with cool graphics: Platemail Chest/Helm Knight's Boots/Gloves and Gladiator Leggings. Makes you lookin mean and armored--while wearing shorts =)

Hope this clarified.

--The Shim

dtm.exe · Nov 21, 2005, 03:50 PM // 15:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkMishkin

Sorry if I sounded angry, but I did answer the question too

I don't really mind answering the same questions repeatedly; it makes me look more cleverer

apologies - msih

Not a problem.

darkMishkin · Nov 21, 2005, 03:51 PM // 15:51

To be a real warrior you need 1 absorbsion rune, and one piece of knight's/ascalon armour. This is true until Arenanet fix the armour, but they haven't done it yet and people have known about it for a very very long time.

Wearing knight's boots will give you an overall reduction in damage.
Wearing Knight's boots and gloves will give the same reduction in damage.
Thus there is no point wearing more than one piece of knight's unless you like its appearance.

dtm.exe · Nov 21, 2005, 03:53 PM // 15:53

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Originally Posted by Shimus DarkRaven

Because it's a "Global" Effect, my friend. "Global" means you only need one for the whole effect you'd get wearing a full suit of it.

Example: Instead of getting full Knights because you think it'll keep reducing damage, you're wrong. One piece suffices; it gives you the absorption.

Urban Legend: You need all pieces because the knight's reduction only applies to the location it's on. WRONG. It's a "Global" effect, thus one piece reduces on a whole.

Also with absorption runes, it stacks ontop of the already "Global" knight's effect, but don't put in multiple runes, because runes don't "stack" allowing for super reduction. One rune cancels another rune of the same type out.

In effect: You're wearing knight's boots <with whatever else armor> with an absorption rune in it..and you're hit for damage. Damage is calculated, THEN the effects from knight's/absorption rune kicks in to reduce damage.

It doesn't matter what slot you put the knight's armor on, personally, just for something different with cool graphics: Platemail Chest/Helm Knight's Boots/Gloves and Gladiator Leggings. Makes you lookin mean and armored--while wearing shorts =)

Hope this clarified.

--The Shim

Thanks for your input. Would it be a bad idea to apply a superior absorption rune to the Knight's boots?

Shimus DarkRaven · Nov 21, 2005, 03:54 PM // 15:54

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Originally Posted by darkMishkin

To be a real warrior you need 1 absorbsion rune, and one piece of knight's/ascalon armour. This is true until Arenanet fix the armour, but they haven't done it yet and people have known about it for a very very long time.

Wearing knight's boots will give you an overall reduction in damage.
Wearing Knight's boots and gloves will give the same reduction in damage.
Thus there is no point wearing more than one piece of knight's unless you like its appearance.

Exactly why I said it. Aesthetics. I didn't say both knight's pieces for reductions =) Mr."Msih"

--The Shim

Savio · Nov 21, 2005, 04:06 PM // 16:06

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Originally Posted by dtm.exe

According to one user that quoted something from the Guild Wars website, they stack, in a sense.

The GW online manual is wrong and should be ignored.

Quote:

Thanks for your input. Would it be a bad idea to apply a superior absorption rune to the Knight's boots?

It doesn't matter where you put the rune, you'll still gain the benefit from both.

dtm.exe · Nov 21, 2005, 04:07 PM // 16:07

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Originally Posted by Savio

The GW online manual is wrong and should be ignored.

It doesn't matter where you put the rune, you'll still gain the benefit from both.

Thanks for clearing that up for me. I figured it would be OK, but wanted to be sure.

Shimus DarkRaven · Nov 21, 2005, 04:09 PM // 16:09

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Originally Posted by dtm.exe

Thanks for clearing that up for me. I figured it would be OK, but wanted to be sure.

It'll be fine. It's all "global" just keep that in mind. Until they fix the armor <if they ever do> to work where it should stack if you wear multiple pieces..that is.

--The Shim

dtm.exe · Nov 21, 2005, 04:11 PM // 16:11

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Originally Posted by Shimus DarkRaven

It'll be fine. It's all "global" just keep that in mind. Until they fix the armor <if they ever do> to work where it should stack if you wear multiple pieces..that is.

--The Shim

So it's a bug in the game? Do you think ArenaNet will ever fix it?

Shimus DarkRaven · Nov 21, 2005, 04:13 PM // 16:13

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Originally Posted by dtm.exe

So it's a bug in the game? Do you think ArenaNet will ever fix it?

If was intended to work that way, and it's been long since the launch of the game, I don't know if they'll ever fix it, as it's already good..but if they did, the reduction would be insane and allow for tweaking. As much as I like fixes, I think this is best left unfixed..and probably will remain so.

--The Shim

dtm.exe · Nov 21, 2005, 04:15 PM // 16:15

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Originally Posted by Shimus DarkRaven

If was intended to work that way, and it's been long since the launch of the game, I don't know if they'll ever fix it, as it's already good..but if they did, the reduction would be insane and allow for tweaking. As much as I like fixes, I think this is best left unfixed..and probably will remain so.

--The Shim

I think I'll have to agree with you on that one. Let the people that actually took the time to do the research have the upper hand on this one

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Nov 21, 2005, 03:25 PM // 15:25	#1
dtm.exe Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: su - Guild: Xiled From Humanity Profession: W/Mo	Knight's Armor With the Knight's armor, do the absorpsion runes that are preapplied stack or do they conflict with each other?

Nov 21, 2005, 03:31 PM // 15:31	#2
darkMishkin Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: UK Guild: Servants of Fortuna [SoF] Profession: Mo/	Once upon a time, many people asked the same questions, over and over again, and this became a great annoyance to many other people. This led to the invention of the search button. = Wear ONE piece of Knight's Armour, and ONE absorbsion rune. Your whole body will be gain the benefits of both. msih Last edited by darkMishkin; Nov 21, 2005 at 03:33 PM // 15:33..

Nov 21, 2005, 03:34 PM // 15:34	#3
Dralspire Retired Join Date: Apr 2005	Only the one highest rune of a particular type creates a positive effect. All applied runes create their respective effect on health, regardless of their positive effect for a character. What this means is this: If you apply 5 minor runes of absorption to your 5 pieces of armor, you get the effect of 1 minor rune of absorption for your character. If you apply 5 superior runes of absorption to your 5 pieces of armor, you get the effect of 1 superior rune of absorption. If you apply 5 superior runes of healing to your 5 pieces of armor, you get the effect of 1 superior rune of healing, but 5 times the superior rune health reduction (-75 health each). If you apply 1 minor rune of absorption, 1 major rune of absorption, and 1 superior rune of absorption to 3 pieces of your armor, you get the effect of 1 superior rune of absorption. If you apply 1 minor rune of healing, 1 major rune of healing, and 1 superior rune of healing to 3 pieces of your armor, you get the effect of 1 superior rune of healing, but the negative health effect from the major rune of healing and the superior rune of healing.

Nov 21, 2005, 03:43 PM // 15:43	#5
dtm.exe Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: su - Guild: Xiled From Humanity Profession: W/Mo	Looking at this thread, I am left confused as to whether they stack or not. According to one user that quoted something from the Guild Wars website, they stack, in a sense. According to others, Knight's boots would suffice for the entire body. So which is it and why?

Nov 21, 2005, 03:50 PM // 15:50	#7
Shimus DarkRaven Desert Nomad Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Titusville, PA <nowhere> Guild: KOD <Knights of the Dragonrose><Guild Officer> Profession: W/Mo	Because it's a "Global" Effect, my friend. "Global" means you only need one for the whole effect you'd get wearing a full suit of it. Example: Instead of getting full Knights because you think it'll keep reducing damage, you're wrong. One piece suffices; it gives you the absorption. Urban Legend: You need all pieces because the knight's reduction only applies to the location it's on. WRONG. It's a "Global" effect, thus one piece reduces on a whole. Also with absorption runes, it stacks ontop of the already "Global" knight's effect, but don't put in multiple runes, because runes don't "stack" allowing for super reduction. One rune cancels another rune of the same type out. In effect: You're wearing knight's boots <with whatever else armor> with an absorption rune in it..and you're hit for damage. Damage is calculated, THEN the effects from knight's/absorption rune kicks in to reduce damage. It doesn't matter what slot you put the knight's armor on, personally, just for something different with cool graphics: Platemail Chest/Helm Knight's Boots/Gloves and Gladiator Leggings. Makes you lookin mean and armored--while wearing shorts =) Hope this clarified. --The Shim

Nov 21, 2005, 03:51 PM // 15:51	#9
darkMishkin Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: UK Guild: Servants of Fortuna [SoF] Profession: Mo/	To be a real warrior you need 1 absorbsion rune, and one piece of knight's/ascalon armour. This is true until Arenanet fix the armour, but they haven't done it yet and people have known about it for a very very long time. Wearing knight's boots will give you an overall reduction in damage. Wearing Knight's boots and gloves will give the same reduction in damage. Thus there is no point wearing more than one piece of knight's unless you like its appearance.