Why -energy items for monks? - Guild Wars Forums

Thock · Dec 07, 2005, 03:07 PM // 15:07

I have heard of monks (and some other casters) keeping items with a -energy stat on a switch, Why would you do this? to combat energy denial is the only thing i can think of.

Tetris L · Dec 07, 2005, 03:14 PM // 15:14

The only reason why anyone would keep an item with a negative energy bonus or energy regen is because it has some kind of really good bonus to compensate for. For example vampiric or zealous weapons always come with -1 energy/health regen. Also, there are some weapons/items with a good energy bonus, but -1 energy regen. You use them at the beginning of a fight, and when you've used the initial energy bonus you switch to an other item with no -1 regen.

Jenosavel · Dec 07, 2005, 03:29 PM // 15:29

Actually, it's usually to combat hexes like Malaise which end when your energy reaches 0. A quick switch to a negative energy weapon and back to your normal set can be a hex-removal with little penalty in those cases.

muelon · Dec 07, 2005, 06:10 PM // 18:10

Easy Answer,

I play primary monk in PVP.
Run Boon to boost healing, also have energy management skill which is mesmer/channeling.
Sometimes run out of energy.
Ah oh im dead no energy.
Well not really.
Just switch weapons from staff that had +10 energy
to rod and offhand that give something like +28 energy (not sure of the exact number but something like that).
Wow all of a sudden I got an extra +18 energy from 0 energy.
Saves the day (maybe).

U can get all this good stuff(rod and offhand) from the desert collecters.

Carinae · Dec 07, 2005, 06:22 PM // 18:22

Guys, I believe the OP is referring to negative energy weapons/offhands. (ie: -5 energy) NOT negative regeneration items, like the +15/-1 offfhands.

Those are often used to end spells that terminate at zero energy, like Wither and Malaise.

They can also be equipped before using spells like Rebirth or Ether Lord, so less energy is lost.

Kidney Licker · Dec 08, 2005, 01:32 AM // 01:32

To counter Wither/Malise, switching to an empty weapon slot will do much the same job of dropping Energy to 0, or even using an offhand for another character class.

I've seen ppl buying some of those items but I hadn't realised they were actually using them. I had thought they were just "collecting" them.

Usually those items have another attribute like +4 armour to counter the energy offset. It may be that attribute they are looking for.

Epinephrine · Dec 08, 2005, 01:39 AM // 01:39

You can also use them in builds that run spells that drop your energy to 0; Ether Lord or Rebrth for example, to protect your energy. Swap to a -5/-3 set for example, cast, then swap back to +12 and you protected 20 energy. Or when facing an energy denial build; swap to your+12; cast a spell, swap back to negative to protect the rest; you get hit with a signet of weakness at 2 energy? You lose 2 - you swap and have 20 energy still, cast a spell and hide your energy again.

Dec 07, 2005, 03:07 PM // 15:07	#1
Thock Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jul 2005 Guild: Achieving Deficiency [aD]	Why -energy items for monks? I have heard of monks (and some other casters) keeping items with a -energy stat on a switch, Why would you do this? to combat energy denial is the only thing i can think of. Last edited by Thock; Dec 07, 2005 at 03:08 PM // 15:08.. Reason: typo

Dec 07, 2005, 03:14 PM // 15:14	#2
Tetris L Jungle Guide Join Date: May 2005 Location: Germany Guild: Servants of Fortuna	The only reason why anyone would keep an item with a negative energy bonus or energy regen is because it has some kind of really good bonus to compensate for. For example vampiric or zealous weapons always come with -1 energy/health regen. Also, there are some weapons/items with a good energy bonus, but -1 energy regen. You use them at the beginning of a fight, and when you've used the initial energy bonus you switch to an other item with no -1 regen.

Dec 07, 2005, 03:29 PM // 15:29	#3
Jenosavel Master of Beasts Join Date: Jul 2005 Guild: Servants of Fortuna [SoF] Profession: R/	Actually, it's usually to combat hexes like Malaise which end when your energy reaches 0. A quick switch to a negative energy weapon and back to your normal set can be a hex-removal with little penalty in those cases.

Dec 07, 2005, 06:10 PM // 18:10	#4
muelon Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Oct 2005 Guild: Dgreat Profession: Mo/E	Easy Answer, I play primary monk in PVP. Run Boon to boost healing, also have energy management skill which is mesmer/channeling. Sometimes run out of energy. Ah oh im dead no energy. Well not really. Just switch weapons from staff that had +10 energy to rod and offhand that give something like +28 energy (not sure of the exact number but something like that). Wow all of a sudden I got an extra +18 energy from 0 energy. Saves the day (maybe). U can get all this good stuff(rod and offhand) from the desert collecters.

Dec 07, 2005, 06:22 PM // 18:22	#5
Carinae Forge Runner Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Inside Guild: Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]	Guys, I believe the OP is referring to negative energy weapons/offhands. (ie: -5 energy) NOT negative regeneration items, like the +15/-1 offfhands. Those are often used to end spells that terminate at zero energy, like Wither and Malaise. They can also be equipped before using spells like Rebirth or Ether Lord, so less energy is lost.

Dec 08, 2005, 01:32 AM // 01:32	#6
Kidney Licker Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Europe Server	To counter Wither/Malise, switching to an empty weapon slot will do much the same job of dropping Energy to 0, or even using an offhand for another character class. I've seen ppl buying some of those items but I hadn't realised they were actually using them. I had thought they were just "collecting" them. Usually those items have another attribute like +4 armour to counter the energy offset. It may be that attribute they are looking for.

Dec 08, 2005, 01:39 AM // 01:39	#7
Epinephrine Master of Beasts Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Ottawa, Canada Guild: Servants of Fortuna [SoF]	You can also use them in builds that run spells that drop your energy to 0; Ether Lord or Rebrth for example, to protect your energy. Swap to a -5/-3 set for example, cast, then swap back to +12 and you protected 20 energy. Or when facing an energy denial build; swap to your+12; cast a spell, swap back to negative to protect the rest; you get hit with a signet of weakness at 2 energy? You lose 2 - you swap and have 20 energy still, cast a spell and hide your energy again.