Is this a scam???? - Guild Wars Forums

Sir Hadies · Dec 12, 2005, 03:59 AM // 03:59

Ok my buddy who plays guild wars got kiced from it for 164 hours ok..Now he was doing the Elona run (he dose it under 10 min and he never scams ppl)any way he get the last crystal and says pay time.Well they all pay but one guy.That guy gives him 600g and he was doing the run for 1k.And my buddy says ok someone better give me 400g or i will not finiesh the mission....And thay say your a dick man..Ya its only 400g jsut give us the crystal..wtf man your and ashole..So my buddy says ok fine then noobs this is the way you treat me the one who is running you for a GREAT price ok...so he takes the crystal and runs to this place weres theres like 50 monsters and stuff puts it in the veary back and leves them.....3 min later he gets a Pm from them sasying hahahahahh we got the crystal..and my buddy says Ok like i care...And one of them said we have screen shots and were going to repot you for scaming!Then my buddy said I didnt scam you i was only doing bussiness...Next day he was kicked from Guild Wars for 164 hours.....Now i think that is BS he was only doing bissness you know thay dont pay he dont complete the mission..PS HE OFFERD TO DO A FUN FOR THE PPL WHO PAYED BUT THEY WERE SPAMING SO MUCH THEY COULDNT READ IT!Well what do you think about all this....

Caleb · Dec 12, 2005, 04:05 AM // 04:05

I think your friend got what he deserved. He took the other party members money (and partial payment from the one nonpaying member) and then did not complete the service he had been paid for.

He did not refund their money, it is a clear case of him accepting and keeping funds for a service he then chose not to provide. It is the exact same thing as if 4 of 5 pay for a Droknar run and then you leave with all the money because you were only partially paid by the last. All he had to do was refund everyone else's money that had paid.

Interesting side note, your first ban is never 168 hours. Apparently your friend has had several of these "incidents".

Get new buddies.

rugal nuker · Dec 12, 2005, 04:08 AM // 04:08

i think he is a real asshole,1.he did not return the other guys money b4 doing that, 2.he is a cheapstate(waste others time because of the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOin 400g),its not because the others did not pay,they did pay,and he did not finsh the mission for them,what an asshole.

Sir Hadies · Dec 12, 2005, 04:12 AM // 04:12

OK first like i said he said he would do a another run but they were to busy talking crap also this was his first ban 164 hours witch is 1 week ans thay ban you for how ever long thaey want to maybe sepending on what they did now he did not scam them he was also going to give them a chance to get a run but he was on there ignor list.

Sir Hadies · Dec 12, 2005, 04:15 AM // 04:15

they pay complete 4.6k and he is suspost to get 5k and he needs the money ok cuz for 1 he needs armor and its BUSINESS they dont complete the pay he dont complete the mission.

chippxero · Dec 12, 2005, 04:20 AM // 04:20

He totally deserves the ban from what you've wrote.

what would he have done if someone had err7'd out? just left the run?

rugal nuker · Dec 12, 2005, 04:21 AM // 04:21

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Originally Posted by Sir Hadies

OK first like i said he said he would do a another run but they were to busy talking crap also this was his first ban 164 hours witch is 1 week ans thay ban you for how ever long thaey want to maybe sepending on what they did now he did not scam them he was also going to give them a chance to get a run but he was on there ignor list.

but its only 1 who did not pay,well he did not paid total,so if the guys did not wanted another run,he can always return their money to be fair,maybe that guy who paid 600g cant afford,so,he can always do a good deed by puting the last cystal(that don need much work as he has already reached)instead of being an asshole who ruin the whole mission and others ppl time whom they have paid.

Sir Hadies · Dec 12, 2005, 04:21 AM // 04:21

Well i dont see why..

chris_nin00 · Dec 12, 2005, 04:21 AM // 04:21

I can barely understand the first post!

But that your 'friend' should have just finished the mission, then reported the person who wouldn't pay.

That would've been a better ending.

chippxero · Dec 12, 2005, 04:23 AM // 04:23

He scammed 4 people, i don't know how anyone can see it any other way.

Divinus Stella · Dec 12, 2005, 04:29 AM // 04:29

Should ban him for good, running missions just makes it harder to find teams if you wanna actually play the game.

Nothin out of place there anyway, he took the cash, didint hand the goods over. scam.

Sir Hadies · Dec 12, 2005, 04:29 AM // 04:29

Ok now read this """"HE SAID HE WOLD DO ANOTHER RUN BUT THEY WERE TO BUSY TALKING CRAP SO HE LEFT"""

Former Ruling · Dec 12, 2005, 04:43 AM // 04:43

Simple, and totally legal way to do this:
Once last guy didn't pay - He refunds the others money and THEN offers them another run and leaves.

Just because they were talking trash doesn't have him some new right to take their mnoey and run.

Akhilleus · Dec 12, 2005, 04:46 AM // 04:46

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Originally Posted by Sir Hadies

Ok now read this """"HE SAID HE WOLD DO ANOTHER RUN BUT THEY WERE TO BUSY TALKING CRAP SO HE LEFT"""

that does not matter.
what he should have done was return the money to everyone there who did pay, then run the crystal into a place thats literally impossible to reach, then offer to re-run those who had initially paid, and simply not include the other guy.
OR
finish the run and report the guy who didnt pay all.

but, he took money form 4/5 people, and didnt finish the run, and to "offend" 4 people is a greater crime than to "offend" 1. the punishment fits the case.
if it had been me (and ive been ina similar situation numerous times) i usually just pay for the other guy, and tell him "this ones on me, the next time, you're getting reported."
but if i didnt have the money to pay for the other guy, and the runner refused to complete the run OR give me the money back (not everyone likes wasting thier time on being run twice) i would report the runner. plain and simple, while the other guy had a hand in the situation, you're friend was at greater fault.
its like with driving, if you rear end someone, your fault, but if you rea-r end the guy because he pulled out onto the street with a stop-sign, its his fault. its also your fault for not stoping in time, but the greater responsibility is thiers. and thats how this works. 4,600 gold vs 400 gold...your friend loses.

chosenbygod · Dec 12, 2005, 04:49 AM // 04:49

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Originally Posted by Sir Hadies

Ok now read this """"HE SAID HE WOLD DO ANOTHER RUN BUT THEY WERE TO BUSY TALKING CRAP SO HE LEFT"""

the thing is, he took their money and their time, why waste MORE of their time when he already shouldve finished the mission.

rugal nuker · Dec 12, 2005, 04:52 AM // 04:52

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Originally Posted by Sir Hadies

Ok now read this """"HE SAID HE WOLD DO ANOTHER RUN BUT THEY WERE TO BUSY TALKING CRAP SO HE LEFT"""

HE SHOULD HAVE RETURN THE GUYS THEIR MONEY,HE LITTLE CHEAPSTATE ASSHOLE

rugal nuker · Dec 12, 2005, 04:55 AM // 04:55

And another thing,the price for this run sld be 500g,dont know who is the idiot who rise the price to 1k and many start running for 1k for such a EASY RUN! this is gay.

Sir Hadies · Dec 12, 2005, 05:16 AM // 05:16

Well whatever i still think he is not guilty..But whatever..

eom · Dec 12, 2005, 05:27 AM // 05:27

yes45

Fungus Amongus · Dec 12, 2005, 05:37 AM // 05:37

Another hookt on fonnix thredd.....

Dec 12, 2005, 03:59 AM // 03:59	#1
Sir Hadies Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Dec 2005 Guild: None Profession: W/Mo	Is this a scam???? Ok my buddy who plays guild wars got kiced from it for 164 hours ok..Now he was doing the Elona run (he dose it under 10 min and he never scams ppl)any way he get the last crystal and says pay time.Well they all pay but one guy.That guy gives him 600g and he was doing the run for 1k.And my buddy says ok someone better give me 400g or i will not finiesh the mission....And thay say your a dick man..Ya its only 400g jsut give us the crystal..wtf man your and ashole..So my buddy says ok fine then noobs this is the way you treat me the one who is running you for a GREAT price ok...so he takes the crystal and runs to this place weres theres like 50 monsters and stuff puts it in the veary back and leves them.....3 min later he gets a Pm from them sasying hahahahahh we got the crystal..and my buddy says Ok like i care...And one of them said we have screen shots and were going to repot you for scaming!Then my buddy said I didnt scam you i was only doing bussiness...Next day he was kicked from Guild Wars for 164 hours.....Now i think that is BS he was only doing bissness you know thay dont pay he dont complete the mission..PS HE OFFERD TO DO A FUN FOR THE PPL WHO PAYED BUT THEY WERE SPAMING SO MUCH THEY COULDNT READ IT!Well what do you think about all this....

Dec 12, 2005, 04:05 AM // 04:05	#2
Caleb Nil nisi malis terrori. Join Date: Aug 2005 Profession: Mo/Me	I think your friend got what he deserved. He took the other party members money (and partial payment from the one nonpaying member) and then did not complete the service he had been paid for. He did not refund their money, it is a clear case of him accepting and keeping funds for a service he then chose not to provide. It is the exact same thing as if 4 of 5 pay for a Droknar run and then you leave with all the money because you were only partially paid by the last. All he had to do was refund everyone else's money that had paid. Interesting side note, your first ban is never 168 hours. Apparently your friend has had several of these "incidents". Get new buddies.

Dec 12, 2005, 04:08 AM // 04:08	#3
rugal nuker Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Sep 2005 Profession: E/Mo	i think he is a real asshole,1.he did not return the other guys money b4 doing that, 2.he is a cheapstate(waste others time because of the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOin 400g),its not because the others did not pay,they did pay,and he did not finsh the mission for them,what an asshole.

Dec 12, 2005, 04:12 AM // 04:12	#4
Sir Hadies Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Dec 2005 Guild: None Profession: W/Mo	OK first like i said he said he would do a another run but they were to busy talking crap also this was his first ban 164 hours witch is 1 week ans thay ban you for how ever long thaey want to maybe sepending on what they did now he did not scam them he was also going to give them a chance to get a run but he was on there ignor list.

Dec 12, 2005, 04:15 AM // 04:15	#5
Sir Hadies Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Dec 2005 Guild: None Profession: W/Mo	they pay complete 4.6k and he is suspost to get 5k and he needs the money ok cuz for 1 he needs armor and its BUSINESS they dont complete the pay he dont complete the mission.

Dec 12, 2005, 04:20 AM // 04:20	#6
chippxero Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005 Location: norfolk Guild: Super Anti Rabbit Squad [SARS] Profession: Mo/Me	He totally deserves the ban from what you've wrote. what would he have done if someone had err7'd out? just left the run?

Dec 12, 2005, 04:21 AM // 04:21	#8
Sir Hadies Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Dec 2005 Guild: None Profession: W/Mo	Well i dont see why..

Dec 12, 2005, 04:21 AM // 04:21	#9
chris_nin00 Dun dun dun Join Date: Aug 2005 Guild: Reddit Guild Profession: R/	I can barely understand the first post! But that your 'friend' should have just finished the mission, then reported the person who wouldn't pay. That would've been a better ending.

Dec 12, 2005, 04:23 AM // 04:23	#10
chippxero Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005 Location: norfolk Guild: Super Anti Rabbit Squad [SARS] Profession: Mo/Me	He scammed 4 people, i don't know how anyone can see it any other way.

Dec 12, 2005, 04:29 AM // 04:29	#11
Divinus Stella Desert Nomad Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Wales Guild: Steel Phoenix	Should ban him for good, running missions just makes it harder to find teams if you wanna actually play the game. Nothin out of place there anyway, he took the cash, didint hand the goods over. scam.

Dec 12, 2005, 04:43 AM // 04:43	#13
Former Ruling Grotto Attendant Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cedartown, Georgia Profession: R/	Simple, and totally legal way to do this: Once last guy didn't pay - He refunds the others money and THEN offers them another run and leaves. Just because they were talking trash doesn't have him some new right to take their mnoey and run.

Dec 12, 2005, 04:55 AM // 04:55	#17
rugal nuker Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Sep 2005 Profession: E/Mo	And another thing,the price for this run sld be 500g,dont know who is the idiot who rise the price to 1k and many start running for 1k for such a EASY RUN! this is gay.

Dec 12, 2005, 05:16 AM // 05:16	#18
Sir Hadies Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Dec 2005 Guild: None Profession: W/Mo	Well whatever i still think he is not guilty..But whatever..

Dec 12, 2005, 05:27 AM // 05:27	#19
eom Krytan Explorer Join Date: Nov 2005 Profession: W/N	yes45

Dec 12, 2005, 05:37 AM // 05:37	#20
Fungus Amongus Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jul 2005 Guild: Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare] \| [Rare] Alliance	Another hookt on fonnix thredd.....