Value of known mods UNID'd - Guild Wars Forums

axe · Jan 04, 2006, 01:55 PM // 13:55

Hello everyone

I picked up an axe in the desert yesterday that is gold, req 8 Spiked axe and when I equip it I gain 30 HP.

I havent ID'd the axe yet because I am curious what you all think. I am wondering if there is more balue in it unid'd because someone can unlock a perfect axe grip of fortitude for pvp AND get a perfect axe grip of fortitude for PVE. Let me know what you all think about that.'

PS I never buy unid'd items for this reason, most people know about this (that you can equip the item and figure out what mods are on it) I especially will not buy unid'd shields. But in this case (assuming I am an honest individual for the purpose of this thread) would this item be worth more?

mortalis doleo · Jan 04, 2006, 02:24 PM // 14:24

you won't be able to convince people it is +30 health, since they need to have it and check it for themselves...

i say unidentify and sell like it is, but i'm no expert...

boxterduke · Jan 04, 2006, 02:26 PM // 14:26

you can add the buyer to your group and show him your health before and after you equipe the item.

he will notice that you gained +30.

darkMishkin · Jan 04, 2006, 02:33 PM // 14:33

He will notice that you equip an item with the same appearence, that gives you 30hp, no guarantee that this is the same item you will trade.

If you wish to trade an 'IDed' unidentified item, you will need to trade with someone you trust. Any of your guildies need a 30hp unlock?

axe · Jan 04, 2006, 02:34 PM // 14:34

I have done that actually. Grouped with people and did the "My health is 530, Im weilding a sundering battlepick of defense" "My health is 560 Im wielding a spiked axe" thing. But obviously I could show that, then when he is convinced and buys I could put a different unid'd axe in the trade. I know its scetchy, but like I said earlier, just ASSUME that I am the most trustworthy person in all of GW, would this be worth more unid'd? thats what I am curious about.

Former Ruling · Jan 04, 2006, 02:38 PM // 14:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by boxterduke

you can add the buyer to your group and show him your health before and after you equipe the item.

he will notice that you gained +30.

Easily fakeable.

Have 530 HP with Axe 1 on..Change to This Axe (Axe 2 for this example), ping its name for him, then quickly change to Axe 3 with perfect grip and Ping your new 560 health..

Then sell him Axe 2 which probably has like +16% vs charr or something on you lol.

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Simple fact is, you aren't going to get more out of it unless you have a REALLY good (or stupid) friend that hasn't unlocked the axe grip yet.

Mostly you'll just be called a scammer though. Probably reported a few times, and so on..But no biggie.

EDIT IN: and no it wouldn't be - Unlocking the grip for PvP really isn't a concern for someone that already can afford a +30 grip BELIEVE ME.. Unlocking it only costs like 2,000faction

axe · Jan 04, 2006, 02:54 PM // 14:54

Thanks Former Ruling for the input.

I thought of that too, thats why IF I did find a buyer I would empty out my entire inventory except for 2 axes (one ID'd and one unid'd) take screenshots, then do the ping health, ping axe thing and take screenshots, then do the trade and take screenshots. Becuase I can trust myself to be honest, but like you said, they would just say, nope it wasnt +30 and demand their money back, etc.

If the +30 is easy to get in PVP, then this seems like a lot of trouble to try to make a little extra money off a nice grip. So I'll probably let a guildie ID it and then just sell this joker to someone. Thanks for the input

PS DONT BUY UNID'D ITEMS

axe · Jan 05, 2006, 03:24 PM // 15:24

So I Id'd the axe

Heavy Spiked Axe Of Fortitude
6-28 (req8)
dmg +13% while hexed
Lengthens weakness duration on foes
HP + 30

Salvaged into heavy axe haft

Probably one of my best drops turned into complete garbage. Just thought I would update you all.

Francis Crawford · Jan 06, 2006, 12:32 PM // 12:32

I realize this is late, but it would seem there's a partial solution to trust -- build up a good reputation selling other stuff through the auction system.

It's not perfect, but it might work.

Gorwith Reveton · Jan 06, 2006, 12:43 PM // 12:43

Yeah i had a RARE NON max dam vampiric longbow of enchanting

5:1 vampiric string
enchantments last 10% longer

Salvaged it and got enchanting

AGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Raku Clayman · Jan 06, 2006, 04:16 PM // 16:16

I've had that happen so many times I couldn't tell you the number. My rule is that it isn't what you want until you actually have it. That way, I'm not disappointed.

axe · Jan 06, 2006, 04:40 PM // 16:40

Thats a good rule LOL!

well the good news of all this, is that I did unlock the +30 haft (I thought I already did, but I was mistaken) I would have liked the 40K I oculd have got from selling though

And that was something I should have done NOT thought I was lucky for getting the drop till AFTER I salvaged. It was like a cruel joke, it would have been better if it had a Cruel mod on it.

Jan 04, 2006, 01:55 PM // 13:55	#1
axe Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Sep 2005 Guild: Pwn Appetit [NJoy] Profession: W/	Value of known mods UNID'd Hello everyone I picked up an axe in the desert yesterday that is gold, req 8 Spiked axe and when I equip it I gain 30 HP. I havent ID'd the axe yet because I am curious what you all think. I am wondering if there is more balue in it unid'd because someone can unlock a perfect axe grip of fortitude for pvp AND get a perfect axe grip of fortitude for PVE. Let me know what you all think about that.' PS I never buy unid'd items for this reason, most people know about this (that you can equip the item and figure out what mods are on it) I especially will not buy unid'd shields. But in this case (assuming I am an honest individual for the purpose of this thread) would this item be worth more?

Jan 04, 2006, 02:24 PM // 14:24	#2
mortalis doleo Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: my house Guild: The Cutting Edge [TCE] Profession: N/	you won't be able to convince people it is +30 health, since they need to have it and check it for themselves... i say unidentify and sell like it is, but i'm no expert...

Jan 04, 2006, 02:26 PM // 14:26	#3
boxterduke Furnace Stoker Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Walking the ruins of Ascalon Guild: DVDF Profession: Me/	you can add the buyer to your group and show him your health before and after you equipe the item. he will notice that you gained +30.

Jan 04, 2006, 02:33 PM // 14:33	#4
darkMishkin Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: UK Guild: Servants of Fortuna [SoF] Profession: Mo/	He will notice that you equip an item with the same appearence, that gives you 30hp, no guarantee that this is the same item you will trade. If you wish to trade an 'IDed' unidentified item, you will need to trade with someone you trust. Any of your guildies need a 30hp unlock?

Jan 04, 2006, 02:34 PM // 14:34	#5
axe Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Sep 2005 Guild: Pwn Appetit [NJoy] Profession: W/	I have done that actually. Grouped with people and did the "My health is 530, Im weilding a sundering battlepick of defense" "My health is 560 Im wielding a spiked axe" thing. But obviously I could show that, then when he is convinced and buys I could put a different unid'd axe in the trade. I know its scetchy, but like I said earlier, just ASSUME that I am the most trustworthy person in all of GW, would this be worth more unid'd? thats what I am curious about.

Jan 04, 2006, 02:54 PM // 14:54	#7
axe Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Sep 2005 Guild: Pwn Appetit [NJoy] Profession: W/	Thanks Former Ruling for the input. I thought of that too, thats why IF I did find a buyer I would empty out my entire inventory except for 2 axes (one ID'd and one unid'd) take screenshots, then do the ping health, ping axe thing and take screenshots, then do the trade and take screenshots. Becuase I can trust myself to be honest, but like you said, they would just say, nope it wasnt +30 and demand their money back, etc. If the +30 is easy to get in PVP, then this seems like a lot of trouble to try to make a little extra money off a nice grip. So I'll probably let a guildie ID it and then just sell this joker to someone. Thanks for the input PS DONT BUY UNID'D ITEMS

Jan 05, 2006, 03:24 PM // 15:24	#8
axe Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Sep 2005 Guild: Pwn Appetit [NJoy] Profession: W/	So I Id'd the axe Heavy Spiked Axe Of Fortitude 6-28 (req8) dmg +13% while hexed Lengthens weakness duration on foes HP + 30 Salvaged into heavy axe haft Probably one of my best drops turned into complete garbage. Just thought I would update you all.

Jan 06, 2006, 12:32 PM // 12:32	#9
Francis Crawford Forge Runner Join Date: Dec 2005	I realize this is late, but it would seem there's a partial solution to trust -- build up a good reputation selling other stuff through the auction system. It's not perfect, but it might work.

Jan 06, 2006, 12:43 PM // 12:43	#10
Gorwith Reveton Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Jan 2006 Guild: Heros of Thermopolye Profession: W/Mo	Yeah i had a RARE NON max dam vampiric longbow of enchanting 5:1 vampiric string enchantments last 10% longer Salvaged it and got enchanting AGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jan 06, 2006, 04:16 PM // 16:16	#11
Raku Clayman Krytan Explorer Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Marquette MI Guild: Elite Lan Gamer Profession: E/Me	I've had that happen so many times I couldn't tell you the number. My rule is that it isn't what you want until you actually have it. That way, I'm not disappointed.

Jan 06, 2006, 04:40 PM // 16:40	#12
axe Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Sep 2005 Guild: Pwn Appetit [NJoy] Profession: W/	Thats a good rule LOL! well the good news of all this, is that I did unlock the +30 haft (I thought I already did, but I was mistaken) I would have liked the 40K I oculd have got from selling though And that was something I should have done NOT thought I was lucky for getting the drop till AFTER I salvaged. It was like a cruel joke, it would have been better if it had a Cruel mod on it.