how to use (I will survive) & (I will avenge u)!! - Guild Wars Forums

Raymond · Jan 14, 2006, 06:38 PM // 18:38

Can someone plx tell me the right way to actually use these 2 skills:

(i will sruvive) each condition u suffering give u +3 regen, i always use this skill while i was suffering from alot of hex and stuff but it never really give me regen or only like a few time it does.

(IWAY) each dead ally gives u +7 regen when i was inside Fow Everyone died and i use this the first time it work bt the sec time it gives me no regen at all again this always happen

can someone plx explain how to use these 2 skills properly

darkMishkin · Jan 14, 2006, 06:49 PM // 18:49

Firstly: A 'Condition' is only Bleeding, Blindness, Burning, Crippled, Dazed, Deep-Wound, Disease, Poison and Weakness. Hexes are not conditions.

Secondly: I Will Survive constantly monitors what conditions you are suffering. If you have 4 conditions on you when you use the skill, it will initially give you +12 health regen, but if a monk then removes 3 of the conditions, you will drop down to only +3 health regen. If you use I Will Survive when you have no conditions on you, it has not been wasted, because any new conditions you recieve will trigger the health regen as long as the shout is active.

When you hit the IWAY skill, the game counts how many dead Allies are around you, at the current time. If your Allies are all resurrected and you try to use IWAY again, it will not work.

mortalis doleo · Jan 14, 2006, 07:22 PM // 19:22

also:
while using i will survive, u might have been affected by bleeding/poison/both.
each of those conditions gives you 3 pips of degen.
when u used i will survive, u had no regen because the regen countered the degen.

DeanBB · Jan 14, 2006, 09:26 PM // 21:26

IWAY also triggers with dead necro minions.

Retribution X · Jan 14, 2006, 09:40 PM // 21:40

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Originally Posted by DeanBB

IWAY also triggers with dead necro minions.

Um, do they leave corpses? no. so it won't. IWAY does work with pets, although the frog is morally opposed to it.

Raymond · Jan 14, 2006, 10:00 PM // 22:00

thx a lot About the IWAY, if i run quite far away from the dead allie will IWAY still work or not?

mortalis doleo · Jan 14, 2006, 10:12 PM // 22:12

it has a pretty large range (1.5 of the agro bubble i think), but it isn't for the entire map.

Order Of Thy Sword · Jan 14, 2006, 10:16 PM // 22:16

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Originally Posted by Retribution X

Um, do they leave corpses? no. so it won't. IWAY does work with pets, although the frog is morally opposed to it.

IWAY says nothing about corpses, it DOES work with minions

darkMishkin · Jan 14, 2006, 10:16 PM // 22:16

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Originally Posted by Retribution X

Um, do they leave corpses? no. so it won't. IWAY does work with pets, although the frog is morally opposed to it.

Ever tested it? No. If you never test it you'll never believe it.

DeanBB · Jan 15, 2006, 02:26 AM // 02:26

I tested it just the other day by changing my warrior to wa/ne, equipping IWAY and animate bone minions, raising some, letting them die, and launching IWAY. Boom, there it is on the "status bar" and I have regen going and everything.

So IWAY does work with dead necro minions.

Perishiko ReLLiK · Jan 15, 2006, 02:29 AM // 02:29

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Originally Posted by Retribution X

Um, do they leave corpses? no. so it won't. IWAY does work with pets, although the frog is morally opposed to it.

If you tested it you'd know it works. Can't argue about something you don't know 0.o

And as for the pet's thing... I don't think IWAY should work with them. Why? Because heal party doesn't. They aren't "party" members till needed for avenging, hmph.

That's all i have to say about that.

darkMishkin · Jan 15, 2006, 02:39 AM // 02:39

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Originally Posted by Perishiko ReLLiK

Can't argue about something you don't know 0.o

Unfortunately, people can and do.

Pops · Jan 15, 2006, 03:31 AM // 03:31

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Originally Posted by Perishiko ReLLiK

And as for the pet's thing... I don't think IWAY should work with them. Why? Because heal party doesn't. They aren't "party" members till needed for avenging, hmph.

That's all i have to say about that.

They're not party members, but they are allies so it still counts for them.

Isis Mordecai · Jan 15, 2006, 04:30 AM // 04:30

quick question, how does pacifism (sp?) work against IWAY?.

darkMishkin · Jan 15, 2006, 04:38 AM // 04:38

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Originally Posted by Isis Mordecai

quick question, how does pacifism (sp?) work against IWAY?.

Well it stops one Warrior from attacking for a while, and IWAY teams never used to take any Hex Removal. Spiteful Spirit is more fun though.

Seissor · Jan 15, 2006, 05:40 AM // 05:40

I PMSL alot in GW, so many tanks throw IWAY on in PvE when EVERY team member and pet is alive, it doesn't work on the enemy yeesh, read the skill description!

I will survive is an ok skill, but with a good team its a wasted skill as the monks should be removing conditions very fast. On the whole, conditions aren't too annoying with a good team, its hexes that are mean.

IWAY, we all know is overused in HoH but in PvE its not very amazing unless you're in the latter missions of the game in which case some people will die, but the benefit you gain from that considering its re-charge and duration is fairly minimal.

darkMishkin · Jan 15, 2006, 01:45 PM // 13:45

Bring IWAY if you are grouped with a good minion master, and it becomes a great skill.

Jan 14, 2006, 06:38 PM // 18:38	#1
Raymond Banned Join Date: Oct 2005 Profession: N/E	how to use (I will survive) & (I will avenge u)!! Can someone plx tell me the right way to actually use these 2 skills: (i will sruvive) each condition u suffering give u +3 regen, i always use this skill while i was suffering from alot of hex and stuff but it never really give me regen or only like a few time it does. (IWAY) each dead ally gives u +7 regen when i was inside Fow Everyone died and i use this the first time it work bt the sec time it gives me no regen at all again this always happen can someone plx explain how to use these 2 skills properly

Jan 14, 2006, 06:49 PM // 18:49	#2
darkMishkin Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: UK Guild: Servants of Fortuna [SoF] Profession: Mo/	Firstly: A 'Condition' is only Bleeding, Blindness, Burning, Crippled, Dazed, Deep-Wound, Disease, Poison and Weakness. Hexes are not conditions. Secondly: I Will Survive constantly monitors what conditions you are suffering. If you have 4 conditions on you when you use the skill, it will initially give you +12 health regen, but if a monk then removes 3 of the conditions, you will drop down to only +3 health regen. If you use I Will Survive when you have no conditions on you, it has not been wasted, because any new conditions you recieve will trigger the health regen as long as the shout is active. When you hit the IWAY skill, the game counts how many dead Allies are around you, at the current time. If your Allies are all resurrected and you try to use IWAY again, it will not work.

Jan 14, 2006, 07:22 PM // 19:22	#3
mortalis doleo Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: my house Guild: The Cutting Edge [TCE] Profession: N/	also: while using i will survive, u might have been affected by bleeding/poison/both. each of those conditions gives you 3 pips of degen. when u used i will survive, u had no regen because the regen countered the degen.

Jan 14, 2006, 09:26 PM // 21:26	#4
DeanBB Forge Runner Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Arizona Guild: Wizardry Players Guild, http://4guildwars.7.forumer.com	IWAY also triggers with dead necro minions.

Jan 14, 2006, 10:00 PM // 22:00	#6
Raymond Banned Join Date: Oct 2005 Profession: N/E	thx a lot About the IWAY, if i run quite far away from the dead allie will IWAY still work or not?

Jan 14, 2006, 10:12 PM // 22:12	#7
mortalis doleo Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: my house Guild: The Cutting Edge [TCE] Profession: N/	it has a pretty large range (1.5 of the agro bubble i think), but it isn't for the entire map.

Jan 15, 2006, 02:26 AM // 02:26	#10
DeanBB Forge Runner Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Arizona Guild: Wizardry Players Guild, http://4guildwars.7.forumer.com	I tested it just the other day by changing my warrior to wa/ne, equipping IWAY and animate bone minions, raising some, letting them die, and launching IWAY. Boom, there it is on the "status bar" and I have regen going and everything. So IWAY does work with dead necro minions.

Jan 15, 2006, 04:30 AM // 04:30	#14
Isis Mordecai Academy Page Join Date: Oct 2005 Profession: Mo/W	quick question, how does pacifism (sp?) work against IWAY?.

Jan 15, 2006, 05:40 AM // 05:40	#16
Seissor Jungle Guide Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Squiggilyville. Population: Me. Guild: [oRly] Hello Kitty Death Squad Profession: R/Me	I PMSL alot in GW, so many tanks throw IWAY on in PvE when EVERY team member and pet is alive, it doesn't work on the enemy yeesh, read the skill description! I will survive is an ok skill, but with a good team its a wasted skill as the monks should be removing conditions very fast. On the whole, conditions aren't too annoying with a good team, its hexes that are mean. IWAY, we all know is overused in HoH but in PvE its not very amazing unless you're in the latter missions of the game in which case some people will die, but the benefit you gain from that considering its re-charge and duration is fairly minimal.

Jan 15, 2006, 01:45 PM // 13:45	#17
darkMishkin Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: UK Guild: Servants of Fortuna [SoF] Profession: Mo/	Bring IWAY if you are grouped with a good minion master, and it becomes a great skill.