Spiteful Spirit Question - Guild Wars Forums

Kylista · Jan 16, 2006, 04:53 PM // 16:53

Hey guys, so SS reads as following:

For 8-18 seconds, whenever target foe attacks or uses a skill, Spiteful Spirit deals 5-29 shadow damage to that foe and all adjacent foes.

Question is, does that foe have to actually HIT the target to suffer the shadow damage? Reason I ask is I wanted to look into using Price of Failure along with SS to not only do better damage but also help my teammates....
thanks!

FYI,
Price of Failure - Hex Spell
For 30 seconds, target foe has a 25% chance to miss with attacks and takes 6-25 damage whenever that foe misses in combat.

heavy metal rules · Jan 16, 2006, 05:18 PM // 17:18

no he doesn't have to hit the target, whenever foe ATTACKS, or uses spell they take the dmg.

sure use pof

Carinae · Jan 16, 2006, 05:32 PM // 17:32

SS works when they attack, not when they hit. Anything offensive counts as an attack.

Any weapon and/or any offensive skill/spell are attacks and trigger SS.

Wards, PoF, Aegis, Guardian do NOT affect SS. Feel free to use them together.

Now, Shadow of Fear DOES affect SS, because it slows attack speed.

Riceboi · Jan 16, 2006, 09:40 PM // 21:40

I'm pretty sure SS deals damage whenever you attack or cast any spell. When doing a FOW chest run past the shadows I had SS on my warrior. I ran away to a clear spot to heal and guess what happened when I used my healing signet, I took SS shadow damage.

Siliconwafer · Jan 16, 2006, 10:08 PM // 22:08

I don't know, I remember a time in Tombs, when spiteful was cast on a minions in a minion factory. We hid behind a wall and they couldn't hit us, and they took no damage from spiteful. It was a fair while ago, though.

dargon · Jan 16, 2006, 11:58 PM // 23:58

SS goes off with attacks and skills. Spells are a type of skill so the only way to avoid SS dmg is to not do anything except move around.

sledgeunderhill · Jan 17, 2006, 12:04 AM // 00:04

A recent patch allowed SS to trigger on 0 second casts including stances and shouts.

Considering how prevalent this skill is being used in farming, I'd expect this to be the center of another pvp/pve balance where the mobs stop attacking when SS is on them.

Mandy Memory · Jan 17, 2006, 12:13 AM // 00:13

I hope that is the way it is done, because the skill is fine as is...game just needs an AI update to keep up with the players

Jan 16, 2006, 04:53 PM // 16:53	#1
Kylista Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Nov 2005	Spiteful Spirit Question Hey guys, so SS reads as following: For 8-18 seconds, whenever target foe attacks or uses a skill, Spiteful Spirit deals 5-29 shadow damage to that foe and all adjacent foes. Question is, does that foe have to actually HIT the target to suffer the shadow damage? Reason I ask is I wanted to look into using Price of Failure along with SS to not only do better damage but also help my teammates.... thanks! FYI, Price of Failure - Hex Spell For 30 seconds, target foe has a 25% chance to miss with attacks and takes 6-25 damage whenever that foe misses in combat.

Jan 16, 2006, 05:18 PM // 17:18	#2
heavy metal rules Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: cape cod, ma Guild: {bkr} bad karma ressurection Profession: W/	no he doesn't have to hit the target, whenever foe ATTACKS, or uses spell they take the dmg. sure use pof

Jan 16, 2006, 05:32 PM // 17:32	#3
Carinae Forge Runner Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Inside Guild: Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]	SS works when they attack, not when they hit. Anything offensive counts as an attack. Any weapon and/or any offensive skill/spell are attacks and trigger SS. Wards, PoF, Aegis, Guardian do NOT affect SS. Feel free to use them together. Now, Shadow of Fear DOES affect SS, because it slows attack speed.

Jan 16, 2006, 09:40 PM // 21:40	#4
Riceboi Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: May 2005	I'm pretty sure SS deals damage whenever you attack or cast any spell. When doing a FOW chest run past the shadows I had SS on my warrior. I ran away to a clear spot to heal and guess what happened when I used my healing signet, I took SS shadow damage.

Jan 16, 2006, 10:08 PM // 22:08	#5
Siliconwafer Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Australia Guild: Shameful Spirits	I don't know, I remember a time in Tombs, when spiteful was cast on a minions in a minion factory. We hid behind a wall and they couldn't hit us, and they took no damage from spiteful. It was a fair while ago, though.

Jan 16, 2006, 11:58 PM // 23:58	#6
dargon Furnace Stoker Join Date: May 2005 Guild: The Seraphim Knights [TSK] Profession: R/	SS goes off with attacks and skills. Spells are a type of skill so the only way to avoid SS dmg is to not do anything except move around.

Jan 17, 2006, 12:04 AM // 00:04	#7
sledgeunderhill Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jun 2005 Guild: Gathering of Friends [GoF]	A recent patch allowed SS to trigger on 0 second casts including stances and shouts. Considering how prevalent this skill is being used in farming, I'd expect this to be the center of another pvp/pve balance where the mobs stop attacking when SS is on them.

Jan 17, 2006, 12:13 AM // 00:13	#8
Mandy Memory Desert Nomad Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: USA Guild: Xen of Sigils [XoO] Profession: W/	I hope that is the way it is done, because the skill is fine as is...game just needs an AI update to keep up with the players