Shield's Armour. - Guild Wars Forums

The Fenixxor · Feb 24, 2006, 11:50 AM // 11:50

Okay, if i equip a +16 armour shield with a req of, say 8 tactics, but i have 0 tactics (say if i equiped the shield on a monk) How much armour will i actually get?

Doctor Death · Feb 24, 2006, 01:12 PM // 13:12

I recall a similar thread about this but I tried a search and couldnt find it.

Anyway I think you get the armour level of a begining shield which is 3.

If your question relates to a warrior secondary or whatever,using 0 tactics and 0 strength the best armour sheilds you can get are the peppermint and Gingerbread shields cos they have no req

You might look a bit silly though it works.

Caged Fury · Feb 24, 2006, 01:14 PM // 13:14

I thought all items (weapons and off-hands) will be set to the same stats as starter ones (those you start with when you first play GW) if you don't meet the requirements. So the shield in question will give +2 or +3 AL.

Former Ruling · Feb 24, 2006, 01:34 PM // 13:34

Starter Shield numbers is 3AL I do beleive.

The Fenixxor · Feb 24, 2006, 01:54 PM // 13:54

Okay then, in terms of damage absorbtion for a monk, would you say a shield with -2 (enchanted) would be more effective, or a plain candy cain shield?

fiery · Feb 24, 2006, 02:39 PM // 14:39

If you cant comply to the requirements on the shield you dont get the defense on it. But you do get the extra mods on it free of charge.

Jenosavel · Feb 24, 2006, 03:00 PM // 15:00

When you don't meet the requirement on anything, its stats default to starter stats. There's no incremental increase; missing the requirement by 1 point is the same as having nothing in the attribute at all. As has been stated, for shields the starter value is 3 AL. However, this only applies for white, blue, and green items. For purple and gold items, there is a second, slightly-higher base value. With shields, that second base value is 5 AL (tested m'self).

So in summary:
White, blue, green shields -> 3 AL
Purple, gold shields -> 5 AL

Savio · Feb 24, 2006, 05:06 PM // 17:06

As a note, I am quite annoyed at people making up answers without checking their answers themselves. Opinions are not facts, and we're not going to have any made-up answers on this forum.

LifeInfusion · Feb 24, 2006, 05:48 PM // 17:48

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Originally Posted by The Fenixxor

Okay then, in terms of damage absorbtion for a monk, would you say a shield with -2 (enchanted) would be more effective, or a plain candy cain shield?

Candy cane shield would be better with 0 attribute in general. That is because 2 damage is less tha the damage added from not having the AL difference of 7 or 5.

A better thing to do is scrap the notion of getting a shield and get a focus with +5 armor or defensive staff head with +5 armor since they will have fast cast/recharge mods (and you won't lose 10-12 energy).

I do agree with Savio that people shouldn't state opinions since this is a fact based question and not a "what is the best profession" kind of question.

The Fenixxor · Feb 24, 2006, 06:03 PM // 18:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savio

As a note, I am quite annoyed at people making up answers without checking their answers themselves. Opinions are not facts, and we're not going to have any made-up answers on this forum.

did i miss something?

Also i want to use a shield because i dont want the energy, so an offhand like that is out of the question

Mandy Memory · Feb 24, 2006, 06:56 PM // 18:56

I am assuming its for focus swap in which case you would prolly just want a -2 +45 shield. the -2 about evens out the AL and the 45 health is nice.

The Fenixxor · Feb 24, 2006, 07:06 PM // 19:06

Yea, thats what i was thinking. just checking if a gingerbread is better overall

Feb 24, 2006, 11:50 AM // 11:50	#1
The Fenixxor Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jul 2005 Profession: Mo/Me	Shield's Armour. Okay, if i equip a +16 armour shield with a req of, say 8 tactics, but i have 0 tactics (say if i equiped the shield on a monk) How much armour will i actually get?

Feb 24, 2006, 05:06 PM // 17:06	#8
Savio Teenager with attitude Join Date: Jul 2005 Guild: Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]	As a note, I am quite annoyed at people making up answers without checking their answers themselves. Opinions are not facts, and we're not going to have any made-up answers on this forum. __________________ People are stupid.

Feb 24, 2006, 01:12 PM // 13:12	#2
Doctor Death Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Manchester, UK Guild: Currently Guildless Profession: W/N	I recall a similar thread about this but I tried a search and couldnt find it. Anyway I think you get the armour level of a begining shield which is 3. If your question relates to a warrior secondary or whatever,using 0 tactics and 0 strength the best armour sheilds you can get are the peppermint and Gingerbread shields cos they have no req You might look a bit silly though it works.

Feb 24, 2006, 01:14 PM // 13:14	#3
Caged Fury Krytan Explorer Join Date: Dec 2005 Guild: Hearts Of Fury [HoF]	I thought all items (weapons and off-hands) will be set to the same stats as starter ones (those you start with when you first play GW) if you don't meet the requirements. So the shield in question will give +2 or +3 AL.

Feb 24, 2006, 01:34 PM // 13:34	#4
Former Ruling Grotto Attendant Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cedartown, Georgia Profession: R/	Starter Shield numbers is 3AL I do beleive.

Feb 24, 2006, 01:54 PM // 13:54	#5
The Fenixxor Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jul 2005 Profession: Mo/Me	Okay then, in terms of damage absorbtion for a monk, would you say a shield with -2 (enchanted) would be more effective, or a plain candy cain shield?

Feb 24, 2006, 02:39 PM // 14:39	#6
fiery Banned Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: maryland Guild: InYurFace Gaming [IYF] Profession: R/	If you cant comply to the requirements on the shield you dont get the defense on it. But you do get the extra mods on it free of charge.

Feb 24, 2006, 03:00 PM // 15:00	#7
Jenosavel Master of Beasts Join Date: Jul 2005 Guild: Servants of Fortuna [SoF] Profession: R/	When you don't meet the requirement on anything, its stats default to starter stats. There's no incremental increase; missing the requirement by 1 point is the same as having nothing in the attribute at all. As has been stated, for shields the starter value is 3 AL. However, this only applies for white, blue, and green items. For purple and gold items, there is a second, slightly-higher base value. With shields, that second base value is 5 AL (tested m'self). So in summary: White, blue, green shields -> 3 AL Purple, gold shields -> 5 AL

Feb 24, 2006, 06:56 PM // 18:56	#11
Mandy Memory Desert Nomad Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: USA Guild: Xen of Sigils [XoO] Profession: W/	I am assuming its for focus swap in which case you would prolly just want a -2 +45 shield. the -2 about evens out the AL and the 45 health is nice.

Feb 24, 2006, 07:06 PM // 19:06	#12
The Fenixxor Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jul 2005 Profession: Mo/Me	Yea, thats what i was thinking. just checking if a gingerbread is better overall