Lord Vishnu · Mar 14, 2006, 06:33 PM // 18:33

I went to the Tomb of kings for Farming and Found a Gold unidentified Sword which i used the superior kit to indentify. The specs of the sword is written below.

Poisonous Flamberge of Defense
Slashing Dmg 15-22(req 8 Swordsmanship)
Dmg +13% (While Enchanted)
Lenghtens Poison duration on foes 33%
Armor +5
Value 220 gold

I have 3 upgrade components which are :-

1. Sword Pommel of Fortitude which is only +21 HP
2. Sword Pommel of Shelter which is only +4 Armor
3. Icy Sword Hit Cold Damage

Is it safe to use all 3 components to this sword.Will there be any form of change that will make the sword ineffective. Your thoughts on this please.

The next question is about Runes. I know that Vigor Runes are non stackable.However my question is that if i were to apply minor runes on my warriors helmet to increase his HP and the apply a Major one on the body, will the HP go up or stay on just the Major one. I would also like to know apart from runes and weapons and shields that has HP included is there other ways of getting a higher HP. I did see one warrior with 1200 HP. I was wondering how he got such high HPs.

I am kind of new to this game and I still learning and hope someone could advice me on this about weapons upgrade and runes. (I have already read the sticky on runes from one of the site i went too but they didn;t say about applying Vigor runes on various parts of the armor will help increase the HP.

Your thoughts on this, please.

Thank You and Good hunting to all.

Numa Pompilius · Mar 14, 2006, 06:43 PM // 18:43

Swords can only take two upgrades, one pommel and one hilt. The sword you've found already has two upgrades (poisonous hilt & +5 armor pommel), so any upgrade you put on there will replace one of the old.

Nater · Mar 14, 2006, 06:44 PM // 18:44

That sword is decent, but it's nothing to write home to mom about. The most valuable part of it is the +5 Defense, which is a perfect mod. When you add a hilt or pommel, you overwrite what was already there. So if you apply your Icy Hilt, it will no longer be a Poisoners sword. Same goes for the Pommel's of Fortitude and Shelter(and Armor +5 from the Defense pommel is > +21 hp and +4 vs physical).

Warriors with a ton of hitpoints probably do have the superior vigor rune, but they're using skills to get up into the 600hp + range. Skills such as Endure Pain and Defy Pain(an elite) can easily add 500hp, and Monk enchantments can tack on another couple hundred(I don't know the exact numbers). Throw in some Symbiosis from the Ranger line and it can be easy to see a Warrior with well over 1500hp.

A major rune will cancel out a minor rune, as will a superior cancel out a major and minor.

Cherno · Mar 14, 2006, 06:45 PM // 18:45

Weapons are made up of 3 components:
A prefix (Icy, Cruel, Sundering, Vampiric, etc)
The inherent mod (if present)
A suffix (Of Fortitude, of Defense, Of Shelter, etc)

On most weapons (except greens) you can change the prefix and suffix at your will. But each weapon can have only one. If you apply your icy sword hilt to your flamberge, it will no longer be poisionous, it will become an icy flamberge or Defense.

With runes, the same applies. You can put another rune on a single piece of armor but it will replace the other. If you have a superior vigor on one and a major on another you will net a HP deficit of 9 HP. Most people will apply a rune of their favorite attirbute to their helm so that they can easily swap. Keep vigors on the body and fill in the rest with minor runes. While you can equip multiples of the same attribute rune, they will not stack.

For example on my warrior:
1 +1 Tactics helm with superior tactics, 1 +1 Strength Helm with Superior Strength
Superioir Absorption on the chest piece
Superior Vigor on my Gloves or Legs.
1 set of ascalon boots (for the dmg reduction), 1 set of ascalon boots with superior sword, 1 set of ascalong boots with superior axe, 1 set of ascalon boots with superior hammer.

This affords me the option of keeping the absorption and vigor on at all times, and just switching between strength and tactics. I also can throw on normal boots or one of the superior sets to boost my dmg attributes.

Spells and other skills can boost your HP to levels that high but they are not permanent.

Hope that is clear.

Daena · Mar 14, 2006, 06:56 PM // 18:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Vishnu

I have 3 upgrade components which are :-

1. Sword Pommel of Fortitude which is only +21 HP
2. Sword Pommel of Shelter which is only +4 Armor
3. Icy Sword Hit Cold Damage

Is it safe to use all 3 components to this sword.Will there be any form of change that will make the sword ineffective. Your thoughts on this please.

Any kind of weapon can only hold 2 mods or upgrade components. Your sword is a Poisonous Flamberge of Defense, where the bold words are the upgrades. Of the upgrades you mentioned, 1 and 2 would replace the "of Defense" already on your sword, however, you will have to chose between 1 or 2 (cannot put both). In this case I advise to leave the Defense upgrade on the sword as it is better than 1 or 2. Upgrade 3 will replace the "Poisonous", and unless you are a W/R using poison, I advise to replace it with the Icy sword hilt (although there are better hilts out there, but those can be too expensive for you to buy).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Vishnu

The next question is about Runes. I know that Vigor Runes are non stackable.However my question is that if i were to apply minor runes on my warriors helmet to increase his HP and the apply a Major one on the body, will the HP go up or stay on just the Major one.

No, you will only get the HP from the Major Vigor rune, i.e. 41 hp.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Vishnu

I would also like to know apart from runes and weapons and shields that has HP included is there other ways of getting a higher HP. I did see one warrior with 1200 HP. I was wondering how he got such high HPs.

There are certain warrior skills, like e.g. warrior's endurance and monk skills that can give someone more hp.

Cherno · Mar 14, 2006, 08:38 PM // 20:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daena

Any kind of weapon can only hold 2 mods or upgrade components.

With the exception of Rods and Wands.

Lord Vishnu · Mar 15, 2006, 02:25 AM // 02:25

Thank you so much for taking the time to read and explain to me about this.
I am really grateful to you. Can this sword be salvaged cos when I indentified it, it was showing a gold pommel which I have failed to read cos I was in a hurry. (My Bad).

Faer · Mar 15, 2006, 03:08 AM // 03:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Vishnu

Thank you so much for taking the time to read and explain to me about this.
I am really grateful to you. Can this sword be salvaged cos when I indentified it, it was showing a gold pommel which I have failed to read cos I was in a hurry. (My Bad).

By using an Expert or Superior Salvage Kit on this sword, you have the chance to salvage out either the Poisonous mod or the Defense mod. However, I personally would not salvage this particular blade, as it does in fact have a perfect defense mod on it and it would be a letdown to end up with a few Iron or Steel ingots after the salvage instead of a perfect mod...

If it is better than your current weapon, by all means use it. If not, try selling it to players for a nice little profit. It may not be a great sword, but it is definitely a good one and can fetch a decent price on the market, especially if you get lucky.

Lord Vishnu · Mar 15, 2006, 05:09 AM // 05:09

Hi Fear, ty for the advice. I guess you are rite. I'll pass it to my 2nd character till he gets a better sword. Thank you to all who have read and answered my post.

Good Hunting

Mar 14, 2006, 06:33 PM // 18:33	#1
Lord Vishnu Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Mar 2006 Profession: W/Mo	Question on Weapons Upgrade and Runes for Warrior I went to the Tomb of kings for Farming and Found a Gold unidentified Sword which i used the superior kit to indentify. The specs of the sword is written below. Poisonous Flamberge of Defense Slashing Dmg 15-22(req 8 Swordsmanship) Dmg +13% (While Enchanted) Lenghtens Poison duration on foes 33% Armor +5 Value 220 gold I have 3 upgrade components which are :- 1. Sword Pommel of Fortitude which is only +21 HP 2. Sword Pommel of Shelter which is only +4 Armor 3. Icy Sword Hit Cold Damage Is it safe to use all 3 components to this sword.Will there be any form of change that will make the sword ineffective. Your thoughts on this please. The next question is about Runes. I know that Vigor Runes are non stackable.However my question is that if i were to apply minor runes on my warriors helmet to increase his HP and the apply a Major one on the body, will the HP go up or stay on just the Major one. I would also like to know apart from runes and weapons and shields that has HP included is there other ways of getting a higher HP. I did see one warrior with 1200 HP. I was wondering how he got such high HPs. I am kind of new to this game and I still learning and hope someone could advice me on this about weapons upgrade and runes. (I have already read the sticky on runes from one of the site i went too but they didn;t say about applying Vigor runes on various parts of the armor will help increase the HP. Your thoughts on this, please. Thank You and Good hunting to all.

Mar 14, 2006, 06:43 PM // 18:43	#2
Numa Pompilius Grotto Attendant Join Date: May 2005 Location: At an Insit.. Intis... a house. Guild: Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF] Profession: W/Me	Swords can only take two upgrades, one pommel and one hilt. The sword you've found already has two upgrades (poisonous hilt & +5 armor pommel), so any upgrade you put on there will replace one of the old.

Mar 14, 2006, 06:44 PM // 18:44	#3
Nater Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Nov 2005 Guild: Illusion Of Skill Profession: W/	That sword is decent, but it's nothing to write home to mom about. The most valuable part of it is the +5 Defense, which is a perfect mod. When you add a hilt or pommel, you overwrite what was already there. So if you apply your Icy Hilt, it will no longer be a Poisoners sword. Same goes for the Pommel's of Fortitude and Shelter(and Armor +5 from the Defense pommel is > +21 hp and +4 vs physical). Warriors with a ton of hitpoints probably do have the superior vigor rune, but they're using skills to get up into the 600hp + range. Skills such as Endure Pain and Defy Pain(an elite) can easily add 500hp, and Monk enchantments can tack on another couple hundred(I don't know the exact numbers). Throw in some Symbiosis from the Ranger line and it can be easy to see a Warrior with well over 1500hp. A major rune will cancel out a minor rune, as will a superior cancel out a major and minor.

Mar 14, 2006, 06:45 PM // 18:45	#4
Cherno Forge Runner Join Date: Jan 2006 Guild: Stars of Destiny Profession: E/	Weapons are made up of 3 components: A prefix (Icy, Cruel, Sundering, Vampiric, etc) The inherent mod (if present) A suffix (Of Fortitude, of Defense, Of Shelter, etc) On most weapons (except greens) you can change the prefix and suffix at your will. But each weapon can have only one. If you apply your icy sword hilt to your flamberge, it will no longer be poisionous, it will become an icy flamberge or Defense. With runes, the same applies. You can put another rune on a single piece of armor but it will replace the other. If you have a superior vigor on one and a major on another you will net a HP deficit of 9 HP. Most people will apply a rune of their favorite attirbute to their helm so that they can easily swap. Keep vigors on the body and fill in the rest with minor runes. While you can equip multiples of the same attribute rune, they will not stack. For example on my warrior: 1 +1 Tactics helm with superior tactics, 1 +1 Strength Helm with Superior Strength Superioir Absorption on the chest piece Superior Vigor on my Gloves or Legs. 1 set of ascalon boots (for the dmg reduction), 1 set of ascalon boots with superior sword, 1 set of ascalong boots with superior axe, 1 set of ascalon boots with superior hammer. This affords me the option of keeping the absorption and vigor on at all times, and just switching between strength and tactics. I also can throw on normal boots or one of the superior sets to boost my dmg attributes. Spells and other skills can boost your HP to levels that high but they are not permanent. Hope that is clear.

Mar 15, 2006, 02:25 AM // 02:25	#7
Lord Vishnu Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Mar 2006 Profession: W/Mo	Thank you so much for taking the time to read and explain to me about this. I am really grateful to you. Can this sword be salvaged cos when I indentified it, it was showing a gold pommel which I have failed to read cos I was in a hurry. (My Bad).

Mar 15, 2006, 05:09 AM // 05:09	#9
Lord Vishnu Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Mar 2006 Profession: W/Mo	Hi Fear, ty for the advice. I guess you are rite. I'll pass it to my 2nd character till he gets a better sword. Thank you to all who have read and answered my post. Good Hunting