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Captain Arne Is PRO · Jan 04, 2006, 10:55 PM // 22:55

yea i was scammed recently for only 1k, but it really irritates me that the kid pretended to be afk until some1 payed for his run, then he skipped the movie and started talking smack.

some1 told me that i could report scammers to anet somehow

can i report scammers to anet? and if yes, what will anet do about it?

Ork Pride · Jan 04, 2006, 10:56 PM // 22:56

idk but i have this ex-friend who scammed alot he called it hussling and i would like to report him, but where do Io.0

Sol_Vie · Jan 04, 2006, 10:57 PM // 22:57

Yeah email them (I'm not sure of the email but it won't be hard to find).

If you provide screenshots and the like, they can ban or suspend the scammer's account among other things. I'm not sure if they can reward you the gold back, but that isn't exceeding their power.

Xuphor · Jan 04, 2006, 11:03 PM // 23:03

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Originally Posted by Sol_Vie

Yeah email them (I'm not sure of the email but it won't be hard to find).

If you provide screenshots and the like, they can ban or suspend the scammer's account among other things. I'm not sure if they can reward you the gold back, but that isn't exceeding their power.

they also have a permanate log of what happens with trades.

and no, you can't get your gold/items back

Fye Duron · Jan 04, 2006, 11:08 PM // 23:08

How exactly where you scammed?

Captain Arne Is PRO · Jan 04, 2006, 11:10 PM // 23:10

i was running a mission
and some1 went "afk"
and he didnt pay
and when the mission ended
he skipped cutscene
and never payed

TheSonofDarwin · Jan 04, 2006, 11:10 PM // 23:10

http://support.guildwars.com -> Ask a question -> Category: Rules and Policies -> Department: Violation Report (fill out the rest then)

From an email I got recently (the standard to make sure you include all the info):

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Hello Justin,

We would like to thank you for contacting us in support of our attempt to create a more friendly and positive Guild Wars environment.

If you encounter any players who you believe violate our guidelines with inappropriate actions, vulgar language, offensive character or guild names, advertising of cheats or exploits, or any breaches of our User Agreement or Rules of Conduct, we'd like to know about it. Please note the details of the situation and use our online help tool's "Ask a Question" form at http://support.guildwars.com to send us details of the violation.

Here are some examples of violation details that you should send along with your report:

- The name of the character being reported
- The name of the character you were playing at the time of the encounter
- The time of the incident (with time zone)
- The name of the map zone where the incident took place (or even the location within the zone)
- A description of the offending action, dialogue, or name
- A screenshot of the incident (please ensure any screenshots are in JPEG/.jpg or GIF/.gif format and under 2 megabytes in size before you attach them to your message)
- Any other details that you feel are relevant

We will use the information that you provide to investigate whether a violation of the rules has occurred. If we do find any rules have been broken, we will take action.

Just remember, take screenshots, and take them often. Anytime you have an interaction with someone that involves the transfer of items (weapons, gold, etc) for anything (services, weapons, etc) take a screenshot. Then report them - if you listen hard enough you can just barely make out their crying hundreds of miles away when they find out they were banned for a few weeks.

Lord Iowerth · Jan 04, 2006, 11:11 PM // 23:11

Use the "ask a question" tab at http://support.guildwars.com

EDIT: ahh, joo beat me! >_<

Milady Kross · Jan 05, 2006, 05:48 AM // 05:48

I run Beacons Perch to Droknars Forge .. as a matter of fact thats all I do in this game when I log with my warrior... Im so sorry to tell you guys I have notice a increase in the scammer population both sides ... everyday in Beacons I see ppl asking for "money upfront" , "because of the scammers" when the fact is they are the real scammers and by the other side also ppl who gets the runner to snake dance , grenths footprint ( entrance) or rankor and when they get there they simply dont pay .. forcing the runner to wait for long time( if stubborn like me who refuses to take scammers anywhere ) or simply keep going with that sour taste they are using and abusing you cause they know u cannot kick 'em from the party. Really bothers the fact you spent hours , days and weeks trying to get the run properly and ppl in a very low manner dont care about the party or the runner or anything , it is really frustrating cause they even laugh at ur face , call you words and do whatever they please . My patience run out today and for the first time I thought about leaving the game cause I really dont wanna play like this .. We were join by one char who was first AFK ( oldest trick in the scammer book ) then forgot his money at storage ( I remind him when we did the money check he has it ) then wanted to go to deldrimor warcamp ( even when was clearly advertise the run was to droknars forge ) and everytime we wanted to keep going to rankor he zone back to grenths making it impossible for me to keep going with the rest of the party .. I call that dirty blackmailing .. it is not only low , very low .. is also abusive and disrespectful not only with me but also with the rest of the party who paid and were expecting to get to droknars asap.
I think the way we have now to report ppl infricting the rules takes too long .. anet ask for too many things and it is a waste of time for everybody.( no thanks, I rather play the game than be writing , taking screenshots, accusing ppl and get in the "she said , I said" game ) ( plus if I have to report ppl everyday for trying to scam me as a runner I would be more time writing reports and taking screenshots than playing )
I think the only solution for this is the implementation by ncsoft or arena net of moderators or GM's watching the game in real time like they have in lineage2 and other games so whenever a little problem occur they can be there and take care of the situation without having to wait , write , report , etc etc etc ..
Wishing you all a happy 2006 !!!

Manic Smile · Jan 05, 2006, 05:59 AM // 05:59

or just impliment party memeber kicking in mission--->sends guy back to town (with his drops to stop bad leaders)

Valerius · Jan 05, 2006, 06:06 AM // 06:06

i've never had a problem with scammers... and i used to run all the time with my Warrior... wat u have to do is at the beginning of the run... say something like... "Everyone agrees to pay XXX once we reach XXX" then get everyone to agree... take a pic... if they don't pay at the end of the run then u have proof that u had an agreement and he scammed... send in the report to ANeT and let them do their thing

Red Sonya · Jan 05, 2006, 06:26 AM // 06:26

Well as for myself I get paid upfront or it's a no go. Oh I hear the whines, and the anti-trust comments. Makes no nevermind to me, these people aren't suppost to be at Droknars anyways in my book, so, if they are willing to cough up the money 4k each I'll take them to the War Camp and Droknars. That's fixes or solves any issues.

Main thing is not be in any hurry to do the run. Wait for a full group, that is 20k a trip and easily more than I can make soloing. I haven't been scammed yet this way. You either pay up front or you don't get a ride. Plain & Simple.

When you take an airplane trip you pay before the ride. When you take a bus trip you pay before the ride. When you take a train trip you pay before the ride. Local Taxi service you pay after the ride, but, this ain't "local" Taxi service, this is like a Plane, Train or Bus ride, a long distance. So the payment comes up front.

I look at it this way, they need my services a lot more than I need their plat. I'll get my 20k, many will not always find a ride.

EatingEmoKids · Mar 27, 2006, 11:12 PM // 23:12

400k aint been banned yet...
keep up the good work Anet!

imsystem · Mar 28, 2006, 01:02 AM // 01:02

they dont ban for this
nothing in the anet user agreement says if you agree to pay a player for something and dont you will be banned

it is a risk that the runner takes

Omeriko2 · Mar 28, 2006, 01:31 AM // 01:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Arne Is PRO

yea i was scammed recently for only 1k, but it really irritates me that the kid pretended to be afk until some1 payed for his run, then he skipped the movie and started talking smack.

some1 told me that i could report scammers to anet somehow

can i report scammers to anet? and if yes, what will anet do about it?

what a whiner you got scammed for only 1k?!!?!? i know people who got scammed for milions, wtf 1k dont know why you even bother posting -.-

Phaern Majes · Mar 28, 2006, 01:40 AM // 01:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manic Smile

or just impliment party memeber kicking in mission--->sends guy back to town (with his drops to stop bad leaders)

Yeah I can see it now.... "55 monk willing to show a noobie the ropes. Only requirement you pay to get in" *Enters UW* "Thanks for the free trip" *BOOT*

Just saying....

CartmanPT · Mar 28, 2006, 01:48 AM // 01:48

Quote:

what a whiner you got scammed for only 1k?!!?!? i know people who got scammed for milions, wtf 1k dont know why you even bother posting -.-

Its not because of 1k, its because of ppl attitude, the OP was doing a service for someone and was scammed.

I??ve stopped run because of stuff like this, i use to thought than getting 10k in 1/2 hour helping someone was better than 20k farming alone, but now i just farm, ppl just dont deserve my time.

Maria The Princess · Mar 28, 2006, 02:27 AM // 02:27

i know how you feel! i previously reported one scammer. you go to www.guildwars.com (official cite)
then you go to Technical support, there is several links there, one of them is Rules Violation (or something like this)
the only thing is that even if they take action, they will not report it to you. you have to know what area you were, who was there and its good if you got a screen shot

Mr D J · Mar 28, 2006, 02:31 AM // 02:31

ok... here's the thing... if you run someone, you can't report them, and even if you do... nothing will be done because simply you have to trust the person. But trading scam can be easily reported IF you include all details like Where? When? Who? and include screenshots.

Arkantos · Mar 28, 2006, 02:33 AM // 02:33

Honestly, I think ANet wont do much about scamming. If they did, there would be thousands of reports daily. They may do something about serious scams, but 1k is nothing, just a waste of time to them.

Jan 04, 2006, 10:55 PM // 22:55	#1
Captain Arne Is PRO Banned Join Date: Jun 2005	Scammers --> can anything be done? yea i was scammed recently for only 1k, but it really irritates me that the kid pretended to be afk until some1 payed for his run, then he skipped the movie and started talking smack. some1 told me that i could report scammers to anet somehow can i report scammers to anet? and if yes, what will anet do about it?

Jan 04, 2006, 10:56 PM // 22:56	#2
Ork Pride Banned Join Date: May 2005	idk but i have this ex-friend who scammed alot he called it hussling and i would like to report him, but where do Io.0

Jan 04, 2006, 10:57 PM // 22:57	#3
Sol_Vie Desert Nomad Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Boston, MA Guild: Blood Of Orr [BoO]	Yeah email them (I'm not sure of the email but it won't be hard to find). If you provide screenshots and the like, they can ban or suspend the scammer's account among other things. I'm not sure if they can reward you the gold back, but that isn't exceeding their power.

Jan 04, 2006, 11:08 PM // 23:08	#5
Fye Duron Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: May 2005 Location: Chico, CA, USA Guild: Dragon Fang	How exactly where you scammed?

Jan 04, 2006, 11:10 PM // 23:10	#6
Captain Arne Is PRO Banned Join Date: Jun 2005	i was running a mission and some1 went "afk" and he didnt pay and when the mission ended he skipped cutscene and never payed

Jan 04, 2006, 11:11 PM // 23:11	#8
Lord Iowerth Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Atlanta, GA (#guildwarsguru FTW!) Guild: Biscuit Of Dewm [MEEP] Profession: R/Mo	Use the "ask a question" tab at http://support.guildwars.com EDIT: ahh, joo beat me! >_<

Jan 05, 2006, 05:48 AM // 05:48	#9
Milady Kross Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Dec 2005 Guild: LTD Profession: W/Mo	I run Beacons Perch to Droknars Forge .. as a matter of fact thats all I do in this game when I log with my warrior... Im so sorry to tell you guys I have notice a increase in the scammer population both sides ... everyday in Beacons I see ppl asking for "money upfront" , "because of the scammers" when the fact is they are the real scammers and by the other side also ppl who gets the runner to snake dance , grenths footprint ( entrance) or rankor and when they get there they simply dont pay .. forcing the runner to wait for long time( if stubborn like me who refuses to take scammers anywhere ) or simply keep going with that sour taste they are using and abusing you cause they know u cannot kick 'em from the party. Really bothers the fact you spent hours , days and weeks trying to get the run properly and ppl in a very low manner dont care about the party or the runner or anything , it is really frustrating cause they even laugh at ur face , call you words and do whatever they please . My patience run out today and for the first time I thought about leaving the game cause I really dont wanna play like this .. We were join by one char who was first AFK ( oldest trick in the scammer book ) then forgot his money at storage ( I remind him when we did the money check he has it ) then wanted to go to deldrimor warcamp ( even when was clearly advertise the run was to droknars forge ) and everytime we wanted to keep going to rankor he zone back to grenths making it impossible for me to keep going with the rest of the party .. I call that dirty blackmailing .. it is not only low , very low .. is also abusive and disrespectful not only with me but also with the rest of the party who paid and were expecting to get to droknars asap. I think the way we have now to report ppl infricting the rules takes too long .. anet ask for too many things and it is a waste of time for everybody.( no thanks, I rather play the game than be writing , taking screenshots, accusing ppl and get in the "she said , I said" game ) ( plus if I have to report ppl everyday for trying to scam me as a runner I would be more time writing reports and taking screenshots than playing ) I think the only solution for this is the implementation by ncsoft or arena net of moderators or GM's watching the game in real time like they have in lineage2 and other games so whenever a little problem occur they can be there and take care of the situation without having to wait , write , report , etc etc etc .. Wishing you all a happy 2006 !!!

Jan 05, 2006, 05:59 AM // 05:59	#10
Manic Smile Desert Nomad Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Hawaii Guild: ----- 15^50[Rare] ---- Alliance: ----- [SMS] -----	or just impliment party memeber kicking in mission--->sends guy back to town (with his drops to stop bad leaders)

Jan 05, 2006, 06:06 AM // 06:06	#11
Valerius Desert Nomad Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Canada Profession: R/	i've never had a problem with scammers... and i used to run all the time with my Warrior... wat u have to do is at the beginning of the run... say something like... "Everyone agrees to pay XXX once we reach XXX" then get everyone to agree... take a pic... if they don't pay at the end of the run then u have proof that u had an agreement and he scammed... send in the report to ANeT and let them do their thing

Jan 05, 2006, 06:26 AM // 06:26	#12
Red Sonya Desert Nomad Join Date: Jul 2005	Well as for myself I get paid upfront or it's a no go. Oh I hear the whines, and the anti-trust comments. Makes no nevermind to me, these people aren't suppost to be at Droknars anyways in my book, so, if they are willing to cough up the money 4k each I'll take them to the War Camp and Droknars. That's fixes or solves any issues. Main thing is not be in any hurry to do the run. Wait for a full group, that is 20k a trip and easily more than I can make soloing. I haven't been scammed yet this way. You either pay up front or you don't get a ride. Plain & Simple. When you take an airplane trip you pay before the ride. When you take a bus trip you pay before the ride. When you take a train trip you pay before the ride. Local Taxi service you pay after the ride, but, this ain't "local" Taxi service, this is like a Plane, Train or Bus ride, a long distance. So the payment comes up front. I look at it this way, they need my services a lot more than I need their plat. I'll get my 20k, many will not always find a ride.

Mar 27, 2006, 11:12 PM // 23:12	#13
EatingEmoKids Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Mar 2006	400k aint been banned yet... keep up the good work Anet!

Mar 28, 2006, 01:02 AM // 01:02	#14
imsystem Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: northern cal	they dont ban for this nothing in the anet user agreement says if you agree to pay a player for something and dont you will be banned it is a risk that the runner takes

Mar 28, 2006, 02:27 AM // 02:27	#18
Maria The Princess Forge Runner Join Date: Mar 2006 Guild: Aequitas Deis	i know how you feel! i previously reported one scammer. you go to www.guildwars.com (official cite) then you go to Technical support, there is several links there, one of them is Rules Violation (or something like this) the only thing is that even if they take action, they will not report it to you. you have to know what area you were, who was there and its good if you got a screen shot

Mar 28, 2006, 02:31 AM // 02:31	#19
Mr D J Permanently Unbanned Join Date: Jun 2005	ok... here's the thing... if you run someone, you can't report them, and even if you do... nothing will be done because simply you have to trust the person. But trading scam can be easily reported IF you include all details like Where? When? Who? and include screenshots.

Mar 28, 2006, 02:33 AM // 02:33	#20
Arkantos The Greatest Join Date: Feb 2006 Profession: W/	Honestly, I think ANet wont do much about scamming. If they did, there would be thousands of reports daily. They may do something about serious scams, but 1k is nothing, just a waste of time to them.