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Arkantos · Apr 10, 2006, 02:55 AM // 02:55

After going to SF as everything for 5 man except MM, I decided im gonna try MM. My question is, what minions do I use? Most of the time I see all fiends with some horrors, sometimes lots of horrors, etc. What ones are best to use?

Scary Raebbit · Apr 10, 2006, 02:59 AM // 02:59

Fiends and Horrors when Fiends is recharging.

Ulivious The Reaper · Apr 10, 2006, 03:24 AM // 03:24

if you ever find yourself in a situation such asmyself and are having down times between summing fiends and horrors, use minions, i normally get in

fiends-horror-minions-fiends-horror (maybe get lucky and have the recharge rate increased) - fiends

Fenrir · Apr 10, 2006, 04:05 AM // 04:05

You haven't done everything until you've been a mesmer gear holder

Definitely more fun (and alot more effective) than your average wammo.

Stampede Zero · Apr 10, 2006, 04:14 AM // 04:14

I have an expierenced MM and he runs SF and Thirsty and all that. The best choice is to bring Fiends, and Horrors, use a mix, doesnt have to be exactly 50 50. but try to get some tanks(horrors) with some range support(fiends) i wouldnt reccomend minions because they come out as level 14, and running sf the mm is the main source of damage. level 14s die quicker, and do less damage, even though 2 are summoned at once.

Phoenix Arrows · Apr 10, 2006, 05:16 AM // 05:16

I usually see Fiends and Horrors, but more Fiends than Horrors. In SF, Tanks don't matter as much, as you got the Gear Stance Tank, so I would go Fiends. The AI seem to target minions (in general) first though. By the way, are Fiends stronger than Horrors? I have it as a fact stuck in my head...

Jedimagician · Apr 10, 2006, 05:19 AM // 05:19

use fiends and horrors so u can use all the corspes and not waste any

Phoenix Arrows · Apr 10, 2006, 05:35 AM // 05:35

BTW, you want to get the corpses before the Summit Dark Binders (right?) do, as they cast Well of Suffering, which is not good news for your minions.

Kali Ma · Apr 10, 2006, 08:57 AM // 08:57

I recommend Fiends for SF... with a stance tank and a necro casting Spiteful Spirit, what the team really needs is damage dealers rather than additional tanks, and because Fiends are ranged they tend to last longer since they aren't receiving damage. Certainly one wants to get to the corpses before the Dark Binders and other necro-types do, and when one is below 25 energy it's tempting to raise a Horror instead; however, at only 5 energy it's more cost effective to simply use Putrid Explosion to quickly get rid of excess corpses. Lately I've been carrying Necrotic Transversal to eliminate stray corpses as it's cheap, fast and spreads poison. My two cents.

kaldak · Apr 10, 2006, 09:08 AM // 09:08

Mostly Fiends, and a few Horrors while Fiends is recharging. Its nice to have the ability to switch to mostly Horrors just in case the warrior quits. And while Horrors dont put out the damage that Fiends do, they do provide some extra targets in case any enemies dont latch on to the warrior.

Haggard · Apr 10, 2006, 09:54 AM // 09:54

Fiends and Fiends alone. Horrors is a wasted slot on my bar which coul be saved for so much better things.

Rathcail · Apr 10, 2006, 10:18 AM // 10:18

Who needs horrors anyway, or other players?

Clicky

quickmonty · Apr 10, 2006, 10:52 AM // 10:52

Fiends. Raise horrors only when waiting for fiends to recharge. Read somewhere that they both do same damage but fiends have faster attack speed. Both have same health but horrors have more armor.

Yanman.be · Apr 10, 2006, 11:53 AM // 11:53

horros get stuck alot when there are too much, and fiends don't need to move to attack..

Pi_Numurian · Apr 10, 2006, 12:07 PM // 12:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scary Raebbit

Fiends and Horrors when Fiends is recharging.

Yeah tht is nice Horrors are the best melee and Fiends have range

Carinae · Apr 10, 2006, 09:40 PM // 21:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yanman.be

horros get stuck alot when there are too much, and fiends don't need to move to attack..

Fiends can be idiots also, and try to shoot through walls.

I try to keep a 3/1 ratio of Fiends/Horrors. At the beginning of a battle, raise only Fiends, then when lots of bodies start dropping raise both equally, then at the end of the battle switch back to Fiends only.

lennymon · Apr 10, 2006, 10:09 PM // 22:09

heehee, thanks man, you made my day

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fenrir

You haven't done everything until you've been a mesmer gear holder

Definitely more fun (and alot more effective) than your average wammo.

Fred Kiwi · Apr 10, 2006, 10:48 PM // 22:48

I honestly can't see any reason to have a third minion skill. The only time you're gonna need it is when you are at that bit when there is 3 massive mobs of dredge at that stone staircase

Apr 10, 2006, 02:55 AM // 02:55	#1
Arkantos The Greatest Join Date: Feb 2006 Profession: W/	MM in Sorrows Furnace After going to SF as everything for 5 man except MM, I decided im gonna try MM. My question is, what minions do I use? Most of the time I see all fiends with some horrors, sometimes lots of horrors, etc. What ones are best to use?

Apr 10, 2006, 02:59 AM // 02:59	#2
Scary Raebbit Krytan Explorer Join Date: Sep 2005	Fiends and Horrors when Fiends is recharging.

Apr 10, 2006, 03:24 AM // 03:24	#3
Ulivious The Reaper Desert Nomad Join Date: Jan 2006 Guild: The Shadowed Assassins Profession: W/Mo	if you ever find yourself in a situation such asmyself and are having down times between summing fiends and horrors, use minions, i normally get in fiends-horror-minions-fiends-horror (maybe get lucky and have the recharge rate increased) - fiends

Apr 10, 2006, 04:05 AM // 04:05	#4
Fenrir Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Ireland Guild: The Dragon Lineage Profession: Mo/Me	You haven't done everything until you've been a mesmer gear holder Definitely more fun (and alot more effective) than your average wammo.

Apr 10, 2006, 04:14 AM // 04:14	#5
Stampede Zero Academy Page Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Nine Mile Falls, Washington Guild: KOTR ~ Knights of the old Repulbic Profession: W/	I have an expierenced MM and he runs SF and Thirsty and all that. The best choice is to bring Fiends, and Horrors, use a mix, doesnt have to be exactly 50 50. but try to get some tanks(horrors) with some range support(fiends) i wouldnt reccomend minions because they come out as level 14, and running sf the mm is the main source of damage. level 14s die quicker, and do less damage, even though 2 are summoned at once.

Apr 10, 2006, 05:16 AM // 05:16	#6
Phoenix Arrows Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: With many other ugly people Guild: We Are All Pretty [ugly] Profession: R/	I usually see Fiends and Horrors, but more Fiends than Horrors. In SF, Tanks don't matter as much, as you got the Gear Stance Tank, so I would go Fiends. The AI seem to target minions (in general) first though. By the way, are Fiends stronger than Horrors? I have it as a fact stuck in my head...

Apr 10, 2006, 05:19 AM // 05:19	#7
Jedimagician Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Mar 2006	use fiends and horrors so u can use all the corspes and not waste any

Apr 10, 2006, 05:35 AM // 05:35	#8
Phoenix Arrows Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: With many other ugly people Guild: We Are All Pretty [ugly] Profession: R/	BTW, you want to get the corpses before the Summit Dark Binders (right?) do, as they cast Well of Suffering, which is not good news for your minions.

Apr 10, 2006, 08:57 AM // 08:57	#9
Kali Ma Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jun 2005 Profession: N/Mo	I recommend Fiends for SF... with a stance tank and a necro casting Spiteful Spirit, what the team really needs is damage dealers rather than additional tanks, and because Fiends are ranged they tend to last longer since they aren't receiving damage. Certainly one wants to get to the corpses before the Dark Binders and other necro-types do, and when one is below 25 energy it's tempting to raise a Horror instead; however, at only 5 energy it's more cost effective to simply use Putrid Explosion to quickly get rid of excess corpses. Lately I've been carrying Necrotic Transversal to eliminate stray corpses as it's cheap, fast and spreads poison. My two cents.

Apr 10, 2006, 09:08 AM // 09:08	#10
kaldak Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jan 2006	Mostly Fiends, and a few Horrors while Fiends is recharging. Its nice to have the ability to switch to mostly Horrors just in case the warrior quits. And while Horrors dont put out the damage that Fiends do, they do provide some extra targets in case any enemies dont latch on to the warrior.

Apr 10, 2006, 09:54 AM // 09:54	#11
Haggard Desert Nomad Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Urmston, Manchester, UK Guild: Greener Pastures [DVDF] Profession: W/Rt	Fiends and Fiends alone. Horrors is a wasted slot on my bar which coul be saved for so much better things.

Apr 10, 2006, 10:18 AM // 10:18	#12
Rathcail Jungle Guide Join Date: Jan 2006	Who needs horrors anyway, or other players? Clicky

Apr 10, 2006, 10:52 AM // 10:52	#13
quickmonty Ancient Windbreaker Join Date: May 2005	Fiends. Raise horrors only when waiting for fiends to recharge. Read somewhere that they both do same damage but fiends have faster attack speed. Both have same health but horrors have more armor.

Apr 10, 2006, 11:53 AM // 11:53	#14
Yanman.be Banned Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Belgium Guild: [ROSE] Profession: A/	horros get stuck alot when there are too much, and fiends don't need to move to attack..

Apr 10, 2006, 10:48 PM // 22:48	#18
Fred Kiwi Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Sep 2005 Guild: [cola]	I honestly can't see any reason to have a third minion skill. The only time you're gonna need it is when you are at that bit when there is 3 massive mobs of dredge at that stone staircase