New skills for tyranians too? - Guild Wars Forums

Fox Reeveheart · Apr 29, 2006, 02:28 AM // 02:28

I do not have factions so thus I ask...

will the new skills for the core classes be for people with factions only? If so that will be a shame and a gamebreaker for me

If its that its for people with factions only, it means they have the ABILITY to become stronger than someone who doesnt have access to them.. think about it, this game basically RUNS on almost. how would you feel if somebody had a whole slew of skills that you didnt just because they paid money for them....

omg I can just see people spamming for groups "MUST HAVE FACTIONS" or something like "LFG MHF" (must have factions) because they will want groups with the new skills... sigh ._. another reason I won't get a group.

twicky_kid · Apr 29, 2006, 02:32 AM // 02:32

That's the incentive to buy the new chapters.

No new skills will be givin for existing chapters.

Fox Reeveheart · Apr 29, 2006, 02:41 AM // 02:41

then HOW do you incorporate game balance? I mean take someone with GW against someone with GW and factions.... the latter has more skills and if he merged his accounts, hes coming to tyranian lands and just makes you seem insignificant.

"I have skills"
"i have more skills"

e.e someone PLEASE tell me how this is fair?

Kerrick?? · Apr 29, 2006, 02:43 AM // 02:43

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Originally Posted by Fox Reeveheart

then HOW do you incorporate game balance? I mean take someone with GW against someone with GW and factions.... the latter has more skills and if he merged his accounts, hes coming to tyranian lands and just makes you seem insignificant.

"I have skills"
"i have more skills"

e.e someone PLEASE tell me how this is fair?

we payed more?

*edit*

also.. more skills doesn't equal more power by any means. especially in this game where the devs have done such a brilliant job at balancing. it only means more options.. if you're going to stick with prophecies then you're simply going to have to be more creative with the skill you do have in the future.

SnoopJeDi · Apr 29, 2006, 02:44 AM // 02:44

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Originally Posted by Fox Reeveheart

then HOW do you incorporate game balance? I mean take someone with GW against someone with GW and factions.... the latter has more skills and if he merged his accounts, hes coming to tyranian lands and just makes you seem insignificant.

"I have skills"
"i have more skills"

e.e someone PLEASE tell me how this is fair?

There are tyria-only arenas, although none for 20s. Really, I don't think it matters all that much. A good bunch of the skills are dupes, and anybody who would have any good reason to complain about balance will be buying the game anyway.

nirhan shadowmauler · Apr 29, 2006, 02:44 AM // 02:44

umm its your choice. if you choose not to be competitive how is that arena nets fault? accept personal responsibility. do not blame the game developers when they offer you the choice to buy the game.

Ricebox · Apr 29, 2006, 02:45 AM // 02:45

To confirm this, try creating a pvp character and see if the new skills are listed. if it is, that means you can unlock it via pvp. However i dont think this is possible through PvE! I could confirm this myself if i want, but my copy hasn't arrived yet and i have no free slot. so try confirming it yourself..

dansamy · Apr 29, 2006, 02:46 AM // 02:46

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Originally Posted by Fox Reeveheart

If its that its for people with factions only, it means they have the ABILITY to become stronger than someone who doesnt have access to them.. think about it, this game basically RUNS on almost. how would you feel if somebody had a whole slew of skills that you didnt just because they paid money for them....

Magic the Gathering.

carbajac · Apr 29, 2006, 02:51 AM // 02:51

The idea is that even though the people who have Factions have more skills, the skills are still balanced. So even if you only own the original GW, you can still beat someone who owns both games...if you're good enough. That's the idea anyway.

Thrawn Foxheed · Apr 29, 2006, 04:08 AM // 04:08

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Originally Posted by dansamy

Magic the Gathering.

Indeed. Buy more cards for more possibilites. Same here just in place with skills, you could always not use factions skills and still be highly competetive.

It's like saying, "That man has a Bugatti and I only have a pontiac!?, that's not fair, please take away his car."

Former Ruling · Apr 29, 2006, 04:11 AM // 04:11

Just like every thing else in life, if you want bigger-better-more than you have to give up some $$$.

If Prop. characters reaped the benefits of factions, what incentive to buy Factions would there be?

NatalieD · Apr 29, 2006, 05:51 AM // 05:51

Having a few more skills available doesn't mean as much as you think it does. Every new skill they put on their bar is one old skill being taken out, and it's not like the new skills are better than the old ones.

Apr 29, 2006, 02:28 AM // 02:28	#1
Fox Reeveheart Jungle Guide Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Michigan Guild: none q.q Profession: D/	New skills for tyranians too? I do not have factions so thus I ask... will the new skills for the core classes be for people with factions only? If so that will be a shame and a gamebreaker for me If its that its for people with factions only, it means they have the ABILITY to become stronger than someone who doesnt have access to them.. think about it, this game basically RUNS on almost. how would you feel if somebody had a whole slew of skills that you didnt just because they paid money for them.... omg I can just see people spamming for groups "MUST HAVE FACTIONS" or something like "LFG MHF" (must have factions) because they will want groups with the new skills... sigh ._. another reason I won't get a group.

Apr 29, 2006, 02:32 AM // 02:32	#2
twicky_kid Furnace Stoker Join Date: Jun 2005 Guild: Quite Vulgar [FUN]	That's the incentive to buy the new chapters. No new skills will be givin for existing chapters.

Apr 29, 2006, 02:41 AM // 02:41	#3
Fox Reeveheart Jungle Guide Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Michigan Guild: none q.q Profession: D/	then HOW do you incorporate game balance? I mean take someone with GW against someone with GW and factions.... the latter has more skills and if he merged his accounts, hes coming to tyranian lands and just makes you seem insignificant. "I have skills" "i have more skills" e.e someone PLEASE tell me how this is fair?

Apr 29, 2006, 02:44 AM // 02:44	#6
nirhan shadowmauler Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: potland,oregon Guild: Through the eyes of the dragon [eyes] Profession: E/W	umm its your choice. if you choose not to be competitive how is that arena nets fault? accept personal responsibility. do not blame the game developers when they offer you the choice to buy the game.

Apr 29, 2006, 02:45 AM // 02:45	#7
Ricebox Academy Page Join Date: Feb 2006 Guild: Head Turners Inc. Profession: W/E	To confirm this, try creating a pvp character and see if the new skills are listed. if it is, that means you can unlock it via pvp. However i dont think this is possible through PvE! I could confirm this myself if i want, but my copy hasn't arrived yet and i have no free slot. so try confirming it yourself..

Apr 29, 2006, 02:51 AM // 02:51	#9
carbajac Krytan Explorer Join Date: Mar 2006 Guild: The Medicine Cabinet [PILL] Profession: E/	The idea is that even though the people who have Factions have more skills, the skills are still balanced. So even if you only own the original GW, you can still beat someone who owns both games...if you're good enough. That's the idea anyway.

Apr 29, 2006, 04:11 AM // 04:11	#11
Former Ruling Grotto Attendant Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cedartown, Georgia Profession: R/	Just like every thing else in life, if you want bigger-better-more than you have to give up some $$$. If Prop. characters reaped the benefits of factions, what incentive to buy Factions would there be?

Apr 29, 2006, 05:51 AM // 05:51	#12
NatalieD Desert Nomad Join Date: Aug 2005	Having a few more skills available doesn't mean as much as you think it does. Every new skill they put on their bar is one old skill being taken out, and it's not like the new skills are better than the old ones.