start a new character in factions, or prophecies? - Guild Wars Forums

sambront · May 17, 2006, 02:03 AM // 02:03

I own both Prophecies and Factions. If I want to start a new Warrior/Monk, which should I use? I think it's easier to get to lvl 20 with Factions, and you don't have to go through pre-searing. So what's the best way?

Arkantos · May 17, 2006, 02:44 AM // 02:44

I'd have to say if your more expirienced start in cantha.

Derval · May 17, 2006, 03:10 AM // 03:10

Well if you want to spend all of your money on skills then cantha lol.

Jedimagician · May 17, 2006, 03:51 AM // 03:51

if you want to look asian then start in cantha, if you want to look english then start in prophecies. if you dont care about looks and poor start in prophecies, if your rich then start in cantha. you get skills in prophecies and exp in cantha.

Cassius The Bold · May 17, 2006, 04:12 AM // 04:12

If you start in Cantha you will get alot more XP per playing time than you will with Prophecies. Buying skills isn't much of an issue because in around 2-3 hours of playing time in Cantha I had a N/Rt that was lvl 12 with almost 3 plat. Now if I had played in Prophecies I would definitely would not have as much money and I wouldn't have as much XP since all Canthan quests I have run across so far are like 1500-4000xp + gold.

However, as a previous poster stated you will not come across many quests that offer skills as rewards. The one thing I did to get as many skills as possible (and XP) was do all the secondary profession quests. It takes a bit of time but the XP and money are worth it for creating a new character in Cantha.

sambront · May 17, 2006, 01:13 PM // 13:13

So how do you get skills in Factions? Is it like Prophcies, where you mostly get them from quests? Or do you buy them? I'd assume since Factions is stand alone, Warriors can get alot of skills via quests.

Also, what happens when your W/R that you create in Factions gets to go to Tyria? Can you then do the warrior and ranger quests to get skills for "free"?

meecham · May 17, 2006, 04:10 PM // 16:10

From what I've seen so far in Factions, you buy your skills from the skill trainers. I have a level 16 assassin and a level 12 necro in Factions and I have yet to see even one single quest that offered a skill as a reward. You are given skills by the headmasters of your chosen profession and secondary profession so you at least have something to start out with. I am assuming I will be able to go to Tyria and be able to do the skill quests, can anyone verify?

capblueberry · May 17, 2006, 04:12 PM // 16:12

I'd probably recommend starting in tyria, cantha is really low lvl friendly at all, plus its easy to get lvled and get ran from place to place fast in tyria

dr1zz one · May 17, 2006, 04:33 PM // 16:33

Make your new character in Cantha. You have a choice of 8 professions. You will lvl up faster and ascend faster. You dont have to wait 'til near endgame to get Charge, 100blades...etc.
The cost of skills does get steep, but if you know what you need, you shouldnt have any problems. Pick up everything and merchant the junk.

felinette · May 17, 2006, 04:40 PM // 16:40

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Originally Posted by Jedimagician

if you want to look asian then start in cantha, if you want to look english then start in prophecies. if you dont care about looks and poor start in prophecies, if your rich then start in cantha.

LOL. So true. I feel for people who only bought Factions, though my Tyrian characters are getting sick of their Canthan relatives always hitting them up for gold.

I'd recommend starting in Cantha, just because I find the starter island more interesting than pre-searing. However, sure you can get elites earlier, but the pool of regular skills available to you is poorer, even if you buy them all. My ranger despairs over her pet because she hasn't yet been able to buy any good skills for healing her pet (yeah, comfort animal is there, but there are better ones). So her pet dies a lot, unfortunately. My level 20 rangers in Tyria have much better skills at their disposal.

Riou McDohl · May 17, 2006, 06:46 PM // 18:46

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Originally Posted by felinette

My ranger despairs over her pet because she hasn't yet been able to buy any good skills for healing her pet (yeah, comfort animal is there, but there are better ones). So her pet dies a lot, unfortunately. My level 20 rangers in Tyria have much better skills at their disposal.

If your Tyrian characters have those skills, doesn't it mean your Canthan characters can buy those same unlocked skills from a skill trainer? I made a Mes, and could already buy the skills I unlocked as a N/Me back in Tyria.

felinette · May 17, 2006, 07:10 PM // 19:10

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Originally Posted by Riou McDohl

If your Tyrian characters have those skills, doesn't it mean your Canthan characters can buy those same unlocked skills from a skill trainer? I made a Mes, and could already buy the skills I unlocked as a N/Me back in Tyria.

The skills aren't available when I visit a skills trainer. I've been looking for them, because my Tyrian rangers have a couple of good skills to help keep their pets alive. Same situation for my mesmer. I'd love to have Wastrel's Worry, but it's never offered for purchase at a skills trainer, and it's definitely unlocked on my account. Do you have to visit a particular skills trainer, or will all skills trainers have the same skills available? Maybe I'm just not visiting the right ones. I'll check a few more when I get home tonight. Could another possibility be that they aren't core skills and so aren't available in Factions? I thought WW was, though.

Kilane · May 17, 2006, 07:15 PM // 19:15

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Originally Posted by meecham

I am assuming I will be able to go to Tyria and be able to do the skill quests, can anyone verify?

I have a Canthan born Mesmer that is in Tyria and I can verify that you do get skills as rewards for some quests past Lions Arch but not all of them. I think, storywise, it's the ones that deal with Ascalon refugee quests that don't give you the skill rewards. I haven't backtracked from LA towards ascalon because I figured that would be the case and have heard from some reliable people that you do not get the quests that from before LA that you would get if you were a Tyrian character. You also can't do the missions as far as I know.

Riou McDohl · May 17, 2006, 08:31 PM // 20:31

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Originally Posted by felinette

The skills aren't available when I visit a skills trainer. I've been looking for them, because my Tyrian rangers have a couple of good skills to help keep their pets alive. Same situation for my mesmer. I'd love to have Wastrel's Worry, but it's never offered for purchase at a skills trainer, and it's definitely unlocked on my account. Do you have to visit a particular skills trainer, or will all skills trainers have the same skills available? Maybe I'm just not visiting the right ones. I'll check a few more when I get home tonight. Could another possibility be that they aren't core skills and so aren't available in Factions? I thought WW was, though.

:/ That sounds bad. I haven't noticed not being able to buy any skills I unlocked before. Each and every skill trainer is *supposed* to be able to sell you your previously unlocked skills. I was in the patch notes somewhere.

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Thursday march 9th

All skill trainers can now sell you any non-elite skill that you have previously unlocked on your account.

felinette · May 17, 2006, 09:11 PM // 21:11

In Cantha, it looks like you can only buy core skills and Factions skills--makes sense. If you want Prophecies skills, you have to go over to Tyria to get them. Both my ranger and my mesmer just made flying visits to Lion's Arch, and all the unlocked Prophecies skills are available there. It turns out Wastrel's Worry isn't a core skill, and neither are most of the skills that help to heal a pet (that aren't elites). But I've got them now.

I hadn't gone over before because I didn't want to break out of the Canthan storyline with those two, but in the ranger's case in particular, I really missed things like Call of Protection.

May 17, 2006, 02:03 AM // 02:03	#1
sambront Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Mar 2006 Guild: none Profession: E/	start a new character in factions, or prophecies? I own both Prophecies and Factions. If I want to start a new Warrior/Monk, which should I use? I think it's easier to get to lvl 20 with Factions, and you don't have to go through pre-searing. So what's the best way?

May 17, 2006, 01:13 PM // 13:13	#6
sambront Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Mar 2006 Guild: none Profession: E/	how do skills work in factions? So how do you get skills in Factions? Is it like Prophcies, where you mostly get them from quests? Or do you buy them? I'd assume since Factions is stand alone, Warriors can get alot of skills via quests. Also, what happens when your W/R that you create in Factions gets to go to Tyria? Can you then do the warrior and ranger quests to get skills for "free"?

May 17, 2006, 02:44 AM // 02:44	#2
Arkantos The Greatest Join Date: Feb 2006 Profession: W/	I'd have to say if your more expirienced start in cantha.

May 17, 2006, 03:10 AM // 03:10	#3
Derval Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Apr 2006 Guild: Alliance of the Old Gods [AOG] Profession: W/Mo	Well if you want to spend all of your money on skills then cantha lol.

May 17, 2006, 03:51 AM // 03:51	#4
Jedimagician Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Mar 2006	if you want to look asian then start in cantha, if you want to look english then start in prophecies. if you dont care about looks and poor start in prophecies, if your rich then start in cantha. you get skills in prophecies and exp in cantha.

May 17, 2006, 04:12 AM // 04:12	#5
Cassius The Bold Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Sep 2005 Profession: Me/N	If you start in Cantha you will get alot more XP per playing time than you will with Prophecies. Buying skills isn't much of an issue because in around 2-3 hours of playing time in Cantha I had a N/Rt that was lvl 12 with almost 3 plat. Now if I had played in Prophecies I would definitely would not have as much money and I wouldn't have as much XP since all Canthan quests I have run across so far are like 1500-4000xp + gold. However, as a previous poster stated you will not come across many quests that offer skills as rewards. The one thing I did to get as many skills as possible (and XP) was do all the secondary profession quests. It takes a bit of time but the XP and money are worth it for creating a new character in Cantha.

May 17, 2006, 04:10 PM // 16:10	#7
meecham Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Apr 2006	From what I've seen so far in Factions, you buy your skills from the skill trainers. I have a level 16 assassin and a level 12 necro in Factions and I have yet to see even one single quest that offered a skill as a reward. You are given skills by the headmasters of your chosen profession and secondary profession so you at least have something to start out with. I am assuming I will be able to go to Tyria and be able to do the skill quests, can anyone verify?

May 17, 2006, 04:12 PM // 16:12	#8
capblueberry Krytan Explorer Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Lexington, SC Guild: Grenths Mercenaries[DEAD]	I'd probably recommend starting in tyria, cantha is really low lvl friendly at all, plus its easy to get lvled and get ran from place to place fast in tyria

May 17, 2006, 04:33 PM // 16:33	#9
dr1zz one Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Nov 2005 Profession: R/	Make your new character in Cantha. You have a choice of 8 professions. You will lvl up faster and ascend faster. You dont have to wait 'til near endgame to get Charge, 100blades...etc. The cost of skills does get steep, but if you know what you need, you shouldnt have any problems. Pick up everything and merchant the junk.

May 17, 2006, 09:11 PM // 21:11	#15
felinette Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Mar 2006 Guild: Girl Power [GP] Profession: Me/	In Cantha, it looks like you can only buy core skills and Factions skills--makes sense. If you want Prophecies skills, you have to go over to Tyria to get them. Both my ranger and my mesmer just made flying visits to Lion's Arch, and all the unlocked Prophecies skills are available there. It turns out Wastrel's Worry isn't a core skill, and neither are most of the skills that help to heal a pet (that aren't elites). But I've got them now. I hadn't gone over before because I didn't want to break out of the Canthan storyline with those two, but in the ranger's case in particular, I really missed things like Call of Protection.