Buying Gold cheating? - Guild Wars Forums

Brin Van Da Keell · May 19, 2006, 11:18 AM // 11:18

I stumbled on a site that sells gold and then after Googling it found loads of sites doing the same. Imagine 300k for a smallish fee the things you could buy would be quite unacheavable for a new charcter.But is this cheating and is it safe to buy from them. They use Paypal as form of payment so your safe in that respect but still aint it cheating?

art_ · May 19, 2006, 11:25 AM // 11:25

Yes...

It is 'cheating' and lame

capblueberry · May 19, 2006, 11:27 AM // 11:27

Yea but you risk getting your account banned if u do this

The Herbalizer · May 19, 2006, 11:36 AM // 11:36

its cheating if you havnt already completed the game and dont know much. if you can make tons of gold but dont have the time any more i do not consider it cheating. if caught you will be banned though. when anet introduce items worth thousands of ectos the only way to raise it is to ebay it. there are a few which can buy who have not ebayed but they would lose a vast amount of their wealth. you will find most the extremely wealthy DID ebay but i wont name names. everyone knows who they are anyway

Jedimagician · May 19, 2006, 11:57 AM // 11:57

all the in eula thingy u clicked accpeted to (who the hell reads these neways) says u cant sell items and account crap for real money or sumfing like that in the contract sumwhere...

Don Zardeone · May 19, 2006, 12:01 PM // 12:01

1. It's not cheating (technically it isn't...)
2. You'll get banned if you do it
3. You'll get good karma if you report it to ANet.

Fractal Star · May 19, 2006, 12:07 PM // 12:07

Of course its cheating.

Not to mention really lazy, a waste of RL cash and more to the point fuels the bot farming industry that i'm sure everyone hates and is ruining a number of aspects of our wonderful game.

teklys · May 19, 2006, 12:11 PM // 12:11

When playing Monopoly you stun your friends by going out to eBay and buying up crazy amounts of Monopoly money (300k Monopoly money for $10). Now it doesn't hurt your friends that you did this since all the money in the original Monopoly game is still there. But, wouldn't it feel like cheating to you to be sitting behind mounds of Monopoly money you'd bought off eBay while everyone else is trying to play within the context of the game?

RTSFirebat · May 19, 2006, 12:14 PM // 12:14

I wouldn't call it "cheating" in the sense of having an unfair advantage.

Since anyone can amass a vast a gold and good items if they farm for long enough.

Buying gold is against the rules however, and if found out it will get you banned.

People who buy gold may often be the ones however who don't have the time to farm the game 8 hours a day for gold and items.

All gold sellers say you are paying for the time taken to collect the gold, which I guess is true.

It still doesn't make it right, don't buy gold.

Kaguya · May 19, 2006, 12:26 PM // 12:26

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Originally Posted by The Herbalizer

when anet introduce items worth thousands of ectos the only way to raise it is to ebay it.

When did ANet release items worth thousands of ectos? Only item 'worth ectos' is the armor from FoW, all other are 'omg rare skin I'll pay thousand ectors for it just because of the skin'... Just as minipets and such

Don Zardeone · May 19, 2006, 12:27 PM // 12:27

Whatever these other guys are saying...

When you get caught, you get banned.

It's not "if" you get caught, but a "when".
There's no way around it, ANet is allmighty. But it is evil, it will let you bathe in the gold until your skin turns green. And then, when you're about to tell everyone you're the king of the world, the sword drops.

Your money will be gone(in-game gold), your money will be gone(bought the account), your money will be gone(ebaygold).

Is it worth it?

Only if you want to lose.

The Herbalizer · May 19, 2006, 12:40 PM // 12:40

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Originally Posted by Kaguya

When did ANet release items worth thousands of ectos? Only item 'worth ectos' is the armor from FoW, all other are 'omg rare skin I'll pay thousand ectors for it just because of the skin'... Just as minipets and such

by making the drop rate for certain items really low the price of them increases. if only one item in the game people will want it and get into a bidding war. a 15>50 dwarven sold for 1200 ectos. why because everyone who had wealth wanted a unique item which noone else had. the person who won it was a well known user of ebay, suprise suprise.

anet recently increased the drop rare of perfect stat items. an example of this is a +30 always -2stance eternal once they sold for 4.5 million now barely 800k.

to claim that anet are not responsible for the prices which people pay for items is rubbish. notice how before when items were uber rare people paid tons, the second the drop rate is increased the prices fall.

therefore anet through having once made certain items be incredibly rare to the point of only 1 perfect one existing caused people to get into bidding wars and usually those who won the items were ebayers.

anet dont force people into paying what they do but by making items where there is only one of them people will do whatever they can to buy them and if it means ebaying they will do it.

anyway who wants to farm all day when you can go work for two hours and buy it. people have lives and those that do i think there is not a problem with using it

anet have tried to prevent the need for ebaying through causing the drop rate of perfect items to increase. you can buy shield for 100k now which before would have cost millions.

TimberOwl · May 19, 2006, 12:40 PM // 12:40

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Originally Posted by Don Zardeone

"when".

Heh... Yeah "When", i know a friend who buys at least 500K a month, sad i know. But hes been doing it for several months, and has never recieved any emails or warnings about it. Lucky i guess.

Im not sure how Anet find out about these ebayers, i certainly am not going to grass on him, but i do look upon him as a bit of a cheat..

Im under no circumstances saying anything positive about ebay gold buying, but i certainly do think its very hit and miss for Anet trying to catch people.

quickmonty · May 19, 2006, 12:45 PM // 12:45

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Originally Posted by The Herbalizer

its cheating if you havnt already completed the game and dont know much. if you can make tons of gold but dont have the time any more i do not consider it cheating. if caught you will be banned though. when anet introduce items worth thousands of ectos the only way to raise it is to ebay it. there are a few which can buy who have not ebayed but they would lose a vast amount of their wealth. you will find most the extremely wealthy DID ebay but i wont name names. everyone knows who they are anyway

I do hope you have statistics to back this up. All of the wealthy players that I know (myself included) have gotten wealthy by farming, and buying low/ selling high. WE DO NOT EBAY!

Azmodan · May 19, 2006, 12:48 PM // 12:48

Don't buy gold off EBAY. It only encourages bots and sweat shop farmers.

But, I do not think buying from EBAY is against the EULA. If I remeber correctly, it says that you can't SELL game items for real money. So, correct me if I'm wrong, but buying is not against the rules. Only selling.

Either way, DON"T DO IT!

The Herbalizer · May 19, 2006, 12:48 PM // 12:48

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Originally Posted by quickmonty

I do hope you have statistics to back this up. All of the wealthy players that I know (myself included) have gotten wealthy by farming, and buying low/ selling high. WE DO NOT EBAY!

i guess you consider a stack of ectos is rich lol. im not talking about people with a million as that isnt rich. a million is chump change im talking about people with 10million plus. very very few people are able to amass such amounts fairly. i know some who have but most of the uber rich i know have some dirty secrets. i have statistics but i sure as hell wont say names or what they did as after the rr incident tons of people got banned. there are very few incredibly wealthy people who i do not know of btw so i know what im talking about.

im not saying massing a few million is impossible as there was a time when i could make 200k a day from minimal work but incidenets such as that are rare. my best i think is 450k in 3 or 4 days from a few nice trades. but in reality people with 10 million or more didnt farm it, maybe some power traded it when it was good but even then it was hard.

im not being ignorant saying most of the rediculously wealthy do but its a sad fact. you can deny it all you like as guru doesnt have any info on it. it is mentioned alot in-game however... just go look at some of the people on there who at one point were spending a million a day. im sure they farm those drok trolls for their gold lol.

TimberOwl · May 19, 2006, 01:21 PM // 13:21

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Originally Posted by Azmodan

Don't buy gold off EBAY. It only encourages bots and sweat shop farmers.

But, I do not think buying from EBAY is against the EULA. If I remeber correctly, it says that you can't SELL game items for real money. So, correct me if I'm wrong, but buying is not against the rules. Only selling.

Either way, DON"T DO IT!

Hmm, im not sure if it is or isn't. I know selling is strictly against the EULA, but im not sure if the transaction fo goods, by that i mean the seller selling, and the buyer buying, are two different legal issues.

So if a seller sells gold, he bas broken the EULA, but the buyer isn't taken into account. Meh im not sure, its not too clear.

fiery · May 19, 2006, 01:29 PM // 13:29

Number One rule: If it's not an in game option it has to be illegal.

Yanman.be · May 19, 2006, 02:21 PM // 14:21

Fiery, so you think voice-communication is cheating in PvP ?

AxeMe · May 19, 2006, 02:25 PM // 14:25

I don't worry so much about whether it is legal or illegal (probably I should).

Instead, I think that shortcuts like this (or the practice in Prophecies of paying to have a mission run) defeat the purpose of the game and - in the end - make it less fun to play.

I remember - back when I played more console games - using cheat codes for a god mode.

Almostly invariably, the game lost all appeal after that.

Games are more fun when they are difficult, when they provide a challenge. I get puzzled over why people want the shortcuts - why play the game at all if you don't enjoy the challenge?

May 19, 2006, 11:18 AM // 11:18	#1
Brin Van Da Keell Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: May 2006 Location: Pontefract in West Yorkshire (UK) Guild: The Knights of Blood & Steel Profession: W/R	Buying Gold cheating? I stumbled on a site that sells gold and then after Googling it found loads of sites doing the same. Imagine *300k* for a smallish fee the things you could buy would be quite unacheavable for a new charcter.But is this cheating and is it safe to buy from them. They use Paypal as form of payment so your safe in that respect but still aint it cheating?

May 19, 2006, 11:36 AM // 11:36	#4
The Herbalizer <3 Ecto Join Date: Jul 2005	its cheating if you havnt already completed the game and dont know much. if you can make tons of gold but dont have the time any more i do not consider it cheating. if caught you will be banned though. when anet introduce items worth thousands of ectos the only way to raise it is to ebay it. there are a few which can buy who have not ebayed but they would lose a vast amount of their wealth. you will find most the extremely wealthy DID ebay but i wont name names. everyone knows who they are anyway Last edited by The Herbalizer; May 19, 2006 at 11:39 AM // 11:39..

May 19, 2006, 11:25 AM // 11:25	#2
art_ Jungle Guide Join Date: Dec 2005	Yes... It is 'cheating' and lame

May 19, 2006, 11:27 AM // 11:27	#3
capblueberry Krytan Explorer Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Lexington, SC Guild: Grenths Mercenaries[DEAD]	Yea but you risk getting your account banned if u do this

May 19, 2006, 11:57 AM // 11:57	#5
Jedimagician Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Mar 2006	all the in eula thingy u clicked accpeted to (who the hell reads these neways) says u cant sell items and account crap for real money or sumfing like that in the contract sumwhere...

May 19, 2006, 12:01 PM // 12:01	#6
Don Zardeone Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Oct 2005	1. It's not cheating (technically it isn't...) 2. You'll get banned if you do it 3. You'll get good karma if you report it to ANet.

May 19, 2006, 12:07 PM // 12:07	#7
Fractal Star Academy Page Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: United Kingdom Guild: None - i'm free lance at the mo' Profession: E/	Of course its cheating. Not to mention really lazy, a waste of RL cash and more to the point fuels the bot farming industry that i'm sure everyone hates and is ruining a number of aspects of our wonderful game.

May 19, 2006, 12:11 PM // 12:11	#8
teklys Ascalonian Squire Join Date: May 2006 Guild: Wizardry Players Guild Profession: E/Me	When playing Monopoly you stun your friends by going out to eBay and buying up crazy amounts of Monopoly money (300k Monopoly money for $10). Now it doesn't hurt your friends that you did this since all the money in the original Monopoly game is still there. But, wouldn't it feel like cheating to you to be sitting behind mounds of Monopoly money you'd bought off eBay while everyone else is trying to play within the context of the game?

May 19, 2006, 12:14 PM // 12:14	#9
RTSFirebat The Humanoid Typhoon Join Date: May 2005 Location: UK Guild: Servants of Fortuna [SoF] Profession: R/	I wouldn't call it "cheating" in the sense of having an unfair advantage. Since anyone can amass a vast a gold and good items if they farm for long enough. Buying gold is against the rules however, and if found out it will get you banned. People who buy gold may often be the ones however who don't have the time to farm the game 8 hours a day for gold and items. All gold sellers say you are paying for the time taken to collect the gold, which I guess is true. It still doesn't make it right, don't buy gold.

May 19, 2006, 12:27 PM // 12:27	#11
Don Zardeone Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Oct 2005	Whatever these other guys are saying... When you get caught, you get banned. It's not "if" you get caught, but a "when". There's no way around it, ANet is allmighty. But it is evil, it will let you bathe in the gold until your skin turns green. And then, when you're about to tell everyone you're the king of the world, the sword drops. Your money will be gone(in-game gold), your money will be gone(bought the account), your money will be gone(ebaygold). Is it worth it? Only if you want to lose.

May 19, 2006, 12:48 PM // 12:48	#15
Azmodan Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: May 2005 Profession: Mo/Me	Don't buy gold off EBAY. It only encourages bots and sweat shop farmers. But, I do not think buying from EBAY is against the EULA. If I remeber correctly, it says that you can't SELL game items for real money. So, correct me if I'm wrong, but buying is not against the rules. Only selling. Either way, DON"T DO IT!

May 19, 2006, 01:29 PM // 13:29	#18
fiery Banned Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: maryland Guild: InYurFace Gaming [IYF] Profession: R/	Number One rule: If it's not an in game option it has to be illegal.

May 19, 2006, 02:21 PM // 14:21	#19
Yanman.be Banned Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Belgium Guild: [ROSE] Profession: A/	Fiery, so you think voice-communication is cheating in PvP ?

May 19, 2006, 02:25 PM // 14:25	#20
AxeMe Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Atlanta Guild: HEX Profession: W/	I don't worry so much about whether it is legal or illegal (probably I should). Instead, I think that shortcuts like this (or the practice in Prophecies of paying to have a mission run) defeat the purpose of the game and - in the end - make it less fun to play. I remember - back when I played more console games - using cheat codes for a god mode. Almostly invariably, the game lost all appeal after that. Games are more fun when they are difficult, when they provide a challenge. I get puzzled over why people want the shortcuts - why play the game at all if you don't enjoy the challenge?