ibex333 · May 23, 2006, 06:56 PM // 18:56

If you were choosing between -5 energy, -10 armor, -1 energy regen or -1 health regen, which would you choose and why???

Nivryx · May 23, 2006, 07:01 PM // 19:01

the only 15% always weapon i use is a -5 energy zealous axe which i use with my ranger's high expertise to easily keep my energy high while spamming swift chop, cyclone axe, etc

Jetdoc · May 23, 2006, 07:02 PM // 19:02

-5 Energy, IMO, is by far the best modifier. You can always use Gladiator's armor to offset the energy loss if you're addicted to 20 Energy.

tuperwho · May 23, 2006, 07:03 PM // 19:03

None of the above. Depending on the build, I make while enchanted, in a stance, or ^50 essentially always. And then you don't have a negative side of things.

B??x??44????1@$ · May 23, 2006, 07:04 PM // 19:04

Yeah. Health degen is never attractive, and energy degen... well.. a ranger with 2 energy regen is pretty sad, unless of course you have 15 expertise and a zealous bow+barage. The -10 armor while attacking is never any fun... just out of personal experience.

Vahn Roi · May 23, 2006, 07:07 PM // 19:07

-5 energy

derrtyboy69 · May 23, 2006, 07:21 PM // 19:21

Personally id choose -10 armor (for 8v8) because as a warrior you rarely are attacked. However in 4v4, -5 energy would be best as warriors do sometimes take more flak then in 8v8.

ibex333 · May 23, 2006, 09:32 PM // 21:32

I dont understand your logic people.

Most of you choose the -5 energy, but if you offset it with gladiators armor, you still loose that -5 energy that you could have had. If you offset it with a zealous mod, you sacrifice that extra 20/20/other mod you could have had.

IMO -1 health regen is the best. Why? Because when you fight, your health regen does not kick off untill everyone stopped hitting you. So it seems to me that you are really not sacrificing anything when you have this penalty. After the fight is over and your health regen kicks off, you can simply switch to another weapon to regen quickly. The only exception where this would be a penalty is if you were using skills like Healing Breeze or Troll Ungruent. And I'm not even sure what "kind" of regen the -1 hp penalty pertains to.. Is it regen from skills, or automatic over time regen? Or is it any kind of regen??

Also, I can offset the -1 health regen with health replentishing skills, like vengeful veapon and the sort.

EDIT: Yikes! I completely forgot that -1 hp degen would act like a vampiric leech on you. So the only way to offset is to constantly steal life.
Ignore waht I said above.

jimmy_logic · May 23, 2006, 10:28 PM // 22:28

The above post did not make any sense at all... o_O 20/20 mod is worth sacrificing. For warriors they can rely on adrenal skills instead of energy skills especially now they have skills that build adrenaline faster for them.

Personally -5 energy is the better mod purely for the fact that it doesn't kill you. -1hp degen kills you -10 armor while attacking kills you especially if you get hit by a spike -1energy degen kills (from not being able to use your skills) you cause now you have lost a pip of energy regen meaning you energy pool recharge 1/3 of the time longer.

-5energy on the other hand is a flat figure no more no less. Rangers negate this by wearing druid and having high expertise. Warriors can wear Gladiator and choose more adrenal skills.

Regards

View Poll Results: Which would you choose?
-5 energy	15	60.00%
-10 armor	7	28.00%
-1 energy regen	1	4.00%
-1 health regen	2	8.00%
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May 23, 2006, 06:56 PM // 18:56	#1
ibex333 Desert Nomad Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Brooklyn, NY Guild: [EYE] Profession: Rt/A	question on 15% always swords/axes.... If you were choosing between -5 energy, -10 armor, -1 energy regen or -1 health regen, which would you choose and why???

May 23, 2006, 09:32 PM // 21:32	#8
ibex333 Desert Nomad Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Brooklyn, NY Guild: [EYE] Profession: Rt/A	I dont understand your logic people. Most of you choose the -5 energy, but if you offset it with gladiators armor, you still loose that -5 energy that you could have had. If you offset it with a zealous mod, you sacrifice that extra 20/20/other mod you could have had. IMO -1 health regen is the best. Why? Because when you fight, your health regen does not kick off untill everyone stopped hitting you. So it seems to me that you are really not sacrificing anything when you have this penalty. After the fight is over and your health regen kicks off, you can simply switch to another weapon to regen quickly. The only exception where this would be a penalty is if you were using skills like Healing Breeze or Troll Ungruent. And I'm not even sure what "kind" of regen the -1 hp penalty pertains to.. Is it regen from skills, or automatic over time regen? Or is it any kind of regen?? Also, I can offset the -1 health regen with health replentishing skills, like vengeful veapon and the sort. EDIT: Yikes! I completely forgot that -1 hp degen would act like a vampiric leech on you. So the only way to offset is to constantly steal life. Ignore waht I said above. Last edited by ibex333; May 23, 2006 at 09:38 PM // 21:38..

May 23, 2006, 07:01 PM // 19:01	#2
Nivryx Krytan Explorer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Kenya Profession: Mo/	the only 15% always weapon i use is a -5 energy zealous axe which i use with my ranger's high expertise to easily keep my energy high while spamming swift chop, cyclone axe, etc

May 23, 2006, 07:02 PM // 19:02	#3
Jetdoc Hell's Protector Join Date: Jul 2005 Guild: The Eyes of Texas [BEVO] Profession: D/A	-5 Energy, IMO, is by far the best modifier. You can always use Gladiator's armor to offset the energy loss if you're addicted to 20 Energy.

May 23, 2006, 07:03 PM // 19:03	#4
tuperwho Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jul 2005 Guild: Tenacious Knights of Doom [TKD]	None of the above. Depending on the build, I make while enchanted, in a stance, or ^50 essentially always. And then you don't have a negative side of things.

May 23, 2006, 07:04 PM // 19:04	#5
B??x??44????1@$ Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jan 2006	Yeah. Health degen is never attractive, and energy degen... well.. a ranger with 2 energy regen is pretty sad, unless of course you have 15 expertise and a zealous bow+barage. The -10 armor while attacking is never any fun... just out of personal experience.

May 23, 2006, 07:07 PM // 19:07	#6
Vahn Roi Forge Runner Join Date: Apr 2006 Guild: [HiDE]	-5 energy

May 23, 2006, 07:21 PM // 19:21	#7
derrtyboy69 Grotto Attendant Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: The Clouds Guild: Scars Meadows [SMS] Profession: Mo/Me	Personally id choose -10 armor (for 8v8) because as a warrior you rarely are attacked. However in 4v4, -5 energy would be best as warriors do sometimes take more flak then in 8v8.

May 23, 2006, 10:28 PM // 22:28	#9
jimmy_logic Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Sep 2005 Profession: R/	The above post did not make any sense at all... o_O 20/20 mod is worth sacrificing. For warriors they can rely on adrenal skills instead of energy skills especially now they have skills that build adrenaline faster for them. Personally -5 energy is the better mod purely for the fact that it doesn't kill you. -1hp degen kills you -10 armor while attacking kills you especially if you get hit by a spike -1energy degen kills (from not being able to use your skills) you cause now you have lost a pip of energy regen meaning you energy pool recharge 1/3 of the time longer. -5energy on the other hand is a flat figure no more no less. Rangers negate this by wearing druid and having high expertise. Warriors can wear Gladiator and choose more adrenal skills. Regards