12 vs 12 Alliance Battle Waiting Problem - Guild Wars Forums

streetboy · May 30, 2006, 11:00 PM // 23:00

During the preview, we were doing a lot of 12 vs 12 Alliance Battle, and we only need to wait for less than a minute to join the battle. After official release of Factions, I waited 20 minute more to join a single battle, which means I can do 3-4 runs in RA. Waiting for 20 minutes to play PvP is not good for an online game.

Does anyone know the reason behind of this long waiting?

BTW, I can't search the forum, so please let me know if another thread has addressed this issue already.

Snowman · May 30, 2006, 11:07 PM // 23:07

no, havnt got a clue what your on about :S

after forming a team I join straight away 95% of the time, sometimes it has to count down once more with a 'no opposing party'

But this is VERY rare.

unless you mean faction battles?.. Jade quarry?

The Son Of Morgoth · May 30, 2006, 11:13 PM // 23:13

Wat i hate is waiting like 1 min to get into the battle......1 min for the battle to start......there should be an option to skip the cinematic.......

Tingi · May 30, 2006, 11:15 PM // 23:15

there is...press "skip"...

...

Robin_Anadri · May 30, 2006, 11:20 PM // 23:20

Only on very rare occasions have I found the wait to AB to be *less* than 5 minutes.

Now granted, I'm on the Kurzick side. I'm sure that the Luxons get into battle more quickly, there are less of them.

The problem is that (I believe) they only run five alliance battles at a time. Period. I'm sure that's a hardware limitation, they have to dedicate probably 2-3 servers to each running battle. But I believe that they should notice the wait issue and address it with more hardware.

Just MHO.

MelechRic · May 30, 2006, 11:24 PM // 23:24

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Originally Posted by Robin_Anadri

Only on very rare occasions have I found the wait to AB to be *less* than 5 minutes.

Now granted, I'm on the Kurzick side. I'm sure that the Luxons get into battle more quickly, there are less of them.

The problem is that (I believe) they only run five alliance battles at a time. Period. I'm sure that's a hardware limitation, they have to dedicate probably 2-3 servers to each running battle. But I believe that they should notice the wait issue and address it with more hardware.

Just MHO.

I'm not sure how you can know there is some sort of hardware limitation. Honestly 5 12v12 battles is only 120 people. That doesn't seem like much when you consider that GW has tens of thousands of people on at any given moment.

I think you wait because there just aren't that many people doing Alliance battles. If you're by yourself trying to get in you have to wait longer because the server has to team you with 3 other people to make up a 4 man unit. If you go with a 4 man unit then you get in right away.

Kakumei · May 30, 2006, 11:27 PM // 23:27

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Originally Posted by MelechRic

I'm not sure how you can know there is some sort of hardware limitation. Honestly 5 12v12 battles is only 120 people. That doesn't seem like much when you consider that GW has tens of thousands of people on at any given moment.

I think you wait because there just aren't that many people doing Alliance battles. If you're by yourself trying to get in you have to wait longer because the server has to team you with 3 other people to make up a 4 man unit. If you go with a 4 man unit then you get in right away.

You can't enter by yourself--you have no choice but to form a team of 4.

bam23 · May 30, 2006, 11:32 PM // 23:32

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Originally Posted by Snowman

no, havnt got a clue what your on about :S

after forming a team I join straight away 95% of the time, sometimes it has to count down once more with a 'no opposing party'

But this is VERY rare.

It actually happens to me and my groups ALL the time, so I think it's far from very rare. The wait usually isn't worth it too.

I just want to get in there, play a round and get out.

And I hate Random Arena.

floplag · May 30, 2006, 11:32 PM // 23:32

ive heard 2 reasons.. and id like to know which is more accurate ...

one is that there can only be 5 battles going at once and the servers are full

two is that there are simply a far lesser number of luxons than kurzicks

anyone have the truth ?

MelechRic · May 30, 2006, 11:58 PM // 23:58

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Originally Posted by Kakumei

You can't enter by yourself--you have no choice but to form a team of 4.

Ahh, I was basing this on the old FPE weekend where you could enter w/o being in a team of 4. Since release, I've only ever gone with 3 other people from my guild so I didn't know it changed.

BTW: I think it's about the same as RA. There are tons of angry 12 year old kids that spew bile at everyone. It's also lame that you can only see your 4-man unit.

Guardian of the Light · May 31, 2006, 01:09 AM // 01:09

From what I know Kurzick has more players then luxon so that might be why kurzick peoples can't get in right away.

Currently luxon has 2! districts in America during my prime time.

pork soldier · May 31, 2006, 01:10 AM // 01:10

When I played luxon side we'd enter on the first or second countdown almost every time - now that I play kurzick side I spend a lot of time waiting.

Takkun · May 31, 2006, 01:31 AM // 01:31

I think he has it backwards. For an entire day during Factions beta event on the kurzick side, I had to wait 45 min for a match each time.

A User Name · May 31, 2006, 01:38 AM // 01:38

During FPE i rarely waited more than a minute to do an alliance battle. Now days if i want to do an alliance battle it rarely takes less than 5 min after hitting enter battle/mission (i forget wat it actually says), not to mention you have to get a group together, ect. I'm on kurzick side so maybe it lack of luxons i dk does anyone really know?

Arkantos · May 31, 2006, 01:42 AM // 01:42

in FPE everyone was doing alliance battles. Now, not as many do. If 12 kurzicks and only 6 luxons are waiting for battle, you'll be waiting for the other 6 luxons to come.

streetboy · May 31, 2006, 05:38 PM // 17:38

Thanks for everyone sharing the infomation.

Zakarr · May 31, 2006, 07:37 PM // 19:37

At least alliance battles don't have mass quitters like Fort Aspenwood had today. I have never seen anything like this. All because Kurzick team had one AFK player

I defended the base alone for fun and soon AFK one quitted too.

http://koti.mbnet.fi/laqnix/quitters.jpg

May 30, 2006, 11:00 PM // 23:00	#1
streetboy Academy Page Join Date: Nov 2005	12 vs 12 Alliance Battle Waiting Problem During the preview, we were doing a lot of 12 vs 12 Alliance Battle, and we only need to wait for less than a minute to join the battle. After official release of Factions, I waited 20 minute more to join a single battle, which means I can do 3-4 runs in RA. Waiting for 20 minutes to play PvP is not good for an online game. Does anyone know the reason behind of this long waiting? BTW, I can't search the forum, so please let me know if another thread has addressed this issue already.

May 30, 2006, 11:07 PM // 23:07	#2
Snowman Jungle Guide Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Wales, UK Guild: Devils Scorpions Profession: W/E	no, havnt got a clue what your on about :S after forming a team I join straight away 95% of the time, sometimes it has to count down once more with a 'no opposing party' But this is VERY rare. unless you mean faction battles?.. Jade quarry?

May 30, 2006, 11:13 PM // 23:13	#3
The Son Of Morgoth Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Maryland Guild: The Servants Of Morgoth Profession: N/	Wat i hate is waiting like 1 min to get into the battle......1 min for the battle to start......there should be an option to skip the cinematic.......

May 30, 2006, 11:15 PM // 23:15	#4
Tingi Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Dec 2005 Profession: Mo/	there is...press "skip"... ...

May 30, 2006, 11:20 PM // 23:20	#5
Robin_Anadri Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Atlanta, GA Guild: Girl Power [GP] Profession: Me/Mo	Only on very rare occasions have I found the wait to AB to be less than 5 minutes. Now granted, I'm on the Kurzick side. I'm sure that the Luxons get into battle more quickly, there are less of them. The problem is that (I believe) they only run five alliance battles at a time. Period. I'm sure that's a hardware limitation, they have to dedicate probably 2-3 servers to each running battle. But I believe that they should notice the wait issue and address it with more hardware. Just MHO.

May 30, 2006, 11:32 PM // 23:32	#9
floplag Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: SoCal Guild: Gamerz United Profession: Me/N	ive heard 2 reasons.. and id like to know which is more accurate ... one is that there can only be 5 battles going at once and the servers are full two is that there are simply a far lesser number of luxons than kurzicks anyone have the truth ?

May 31, 2006, 01:09 AM // 01:09	#11
Guardian of the Light Forge Runner Join Date: Sep 2005 Guild: Radicals Against Tyrants Profession: W/	From what I know Kurzick has more players then luxon so that might be why kurzick peoples can't get in right away. Currently luxon has 2! districts in America during my prime time.

May 31, 2006, 01:10 AM // 01:10	#12
pork soldier Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jul 2005	When I played luxon side we'd enter on the first or second countdown almost every time - now that I play kurzick side I spend a lot of time waiting.

May 31, 2006, 01:31 AM // 01:31	#13
Takkun Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: May 2005	I think he has it backwards. For an entire day during Factions beta event on the kurzick side, I had to wait 45 min for a match each time.

May 31, 2006, 01:38 AM // 01:38	#14
A User Name Academy Page Join Date: Jul 2005 Guild: None atm	During FPE i rarely waited more than a minute to do an alliance battle. Now days if i want to do an alliance battle it rarely takes less than 5 min after hitting enter battle/mission (i forget wat it actually says), not to mention you have to get a group together, ect. I'm on kurzick side so maybe it lack of luxons i dk does anyone really know?

May 31, 2006, 01:42 AM // 01:42	#15
Arkantos The Greatest Join Date: Feb 2006 Profession: W/	in FPE everyone was doing alliance battles. Now, not as many do. If 12 kurzicks and only 6 luxons are waiting for battle, you'll be waiting for the other 6 luxons to come.

May 31, 2006, 05:38 PM // 17:38	#16
streetboy Academy Page Join Date: Nov 2005	Thanks for everyone sharing the infomation.

May 31, 2006, 07:37 PM // 19:37	#17
Zakarr Jungle Guide Join Date: May 2005 Location: Finland	At least alliance battles don't have mass quitters like Fort Aspenwood had today. I have never seen anything like this. All because Kurzick team had one AFK player I defended the base alone for fun and soon AFK one quitted too. http://koti.mbnet.fi/laqnix/quitters.jpg