Weapons and their bonus's - Guild Wars Forums

joncoish · Jun 04, 2006, 06:28 AM // 06:28

Ok, I did a search for something about this, but didn't have much luck. I just did a bit of farming and found a fairly nice sword with a percentage bonus to damage and longer enchantments. Now I play an elementalist/mesmer, and the sword requires like 7 swordmanship or something. So my question is, even though I don't have the 7 swordmanship, if I used this sword will I still get the damage and longer enchantments bonus? I don't really care about the damage bonus or the fact that I do shit damage with it, I just think the longer enchantments thing is nice. Thanks!

October Jade · Jun 04, 2006, 06:40 AM // 06:40

Yes, you should get the full bonus to your enchantment length. Attribute requirements only affect the primary stat of the item (i.e. weapon damage or shield armor). The other mods, including those from affixes, are innate to the weapon and independent of attribute level.

dargon · Jun 04, 2006, 09:05 AM // 09:05

As an addendum to what O.J. said. Any requirements listed on the item, affect the thing they are next to, ie the Swordsman Ship requirement, only affects the damage. That said, if a seperate mod, ie 15% chance of improving the level of your mesmer spells were also on the item, there may be a seperate requirement for that mod.

joncoish · Jun 04, 2006, 04:40 PM // 16:40

well there is only one requirement listed on the sword, with two bonus's. So would that mean they're both based on that requirement? Your message seems to conflict the previous one.

VGJustice · Jun 04, 2006, 04:43 PM // 16:43

No, only base damage is effected by the Swordsmanship requirement. The +15% bonus damage will calculate after it takes into acount the adjusted base damage, and the enchantment bonus duration mod will be unaffected.

Ole Man Bourbon · Jun 04, 2006, 05:52 PM // 17:52

Monks often use swords with the enchant mod.

Azmodan · Jun 04, 2006, 06:01 PM // 18:01

As a caster, why not just use a staff with an enchant wrapping?

dargon · Jun 04, 2006, 10:19 PM // 22:19

Ok, this is what I mean't, only with an example. The Chimeric Prism was an item that people in Europe got if the preordered the original game, about 18 months ago, give or take. It has the following stats.

Energy +5
Energy +3 (req. 8 Divine Favor)
Energy +7 (req. 8 Energy Storage)
Energy +7 (req. 8 Soul Reaping)
Energy +7 (req. 8 Fast Casting)
Armor +8 (req. 8 Divine Favor)
Armor +16 (req. 8 Strength)
Armor +10 (req. 8 Expertise)

This made this a fairly useful item for every class in the game, but not over powered because each of the requirements was a classes Primary Attribute.

In the case of energt, everyone gets the base +5, for it has no requirement. Then if you meet one of the requirements, such as 8 Divine Favor, you get an additional +3. The same applies for the armor, only it has no bonus that doesn't have a requirement. So a monk with an 8 in Divine Favor would get a bonus of +8 energy and +8 armor, while a Range with an 8 in Expertise would get +5 energy and +10 armor (but rangers have 2 handed weapons (bows) so this is only go for some trapper builds).

joncoish · Jun 04, 2006, 11:36 PM // 23:36

don't have an enchant wrapping... give me one and I'll use it

plus, as an earth elementalist who likes putting up my armor spells and running into the fray to deal damage with my area effect spells, well sword is nice because when you hit space you run right up to them :P

Jun 04, 2006, 06:28 AM // 06:28	#1
joncoish Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: May 2006	Weapons and their bonus's Ok, I did a search for something about this, but didn't have much luck. I just did a bit of farming and found a fairly nice sword with a percentage bonus to damage and longer enchantments. Now I play an elementalist/mesmer, and the sword requires like 7 swordmanship or something. So my question is, even though I don't have the 7 swordmanship, if I used this sword will I still get the damage and longer enchantments bonus? I don't really care about the damage bonus or the fact that I do shit damage with it, I just think the longer enchantments thing is nice. Thanks!

Jun 04, 2006, 11:36 PM // 23:36	#9
joncoish Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: May 2006	don't have an enchant wrapping... give me one and I'll use it plus, as an earth elementalist who likes putting up my armor spells and running into the fray to deal damage with my area effect spells, well sword is nice because when you hit space you run right up to them :P Last edited by joncoish; Jun 04, 2006 at 11:41 PM // 23:41..

Jun 04, 2006, 06:40 AM // 06:40	#2
October Jade Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: drifting between Indiana and NorCal	Yes, you should get the full bonus to your enchantment length. Attribute requirements only affect the primary stat of the item (i.e. weapon damage or shield armor). The other mods, including those from affixes, are innate to the weapon and independent of attribute level.

Jun 04, 2006, 09:05 AM // 09:05	#3
dargon Furnace Stoker Join Date: May 2005 Guild: The Seraphim Knights [TSK] Profession: R/	As an addendum to what O.J. said. Any requirements listed on the item, affect the thing they are next to, ie the Swordsman Ship requirement, only affects the damage. That said, if a seperate mod, ie 15% chance of improving the level of your mesmer spells were also on the item, there may be a seperate requirement for that mod.

Jun 04, 2006, 04:40 PM // 16:40	#4
joncoish Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: May 2006	well there is only one requirement listed on the sword, with two bonus's. So would that mean they're both based on that requirement? Your message seems to conflict the previous one.

Jun 04, 2006, 04:43 PM // 16:43	#5
VGJustice Desert Nomad Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Tyria, cappin' ur bosses Guild: Boston Guild [BG] Profession: R/W	No, only base damage is effected by the Swordsmanship requirement. The +15% bonus damage will calculate after it takes into acount the adjusted base damage, and the enchantment bonus duration mod will be unaffected.

Jun 04, 2006, 05:52 PM // 17:52	#6
Ole Man Bourbon Jungle Guide Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Atlanta Guild: GONG Profession: W/E	Monks often use swords with the enchant mod.

Jun 04, 2006, 06:01 PM // 18:01	#7
Azmodan Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: May 2005 Profession: Mo/Me	As a caster, why not just use a staff with an enchant wrapping?

Jun 04, 2006, 10:19 PM // 22:19	#8
dargon Furnace Stoker Join Date: May 2005 Guild: The Seraphim Knights [TSK] Profession: R/	Ok, this is what I mean't, only with an example. The Chimeric Prism was an item that people in Europe got if the preordered the original game, about 18 months ago, give or take. It has the following stats. Energy +5 Energy +3 (req. 8 Divine Favor) Energy +7 (req. 8 Energy Storage) Energy +7 (req. 8 Soul Reaping) Energy +7 (req. 8 Fast Casting) Armor +8 (req. 8 Divine Favor) Armor +16 (req. 8 Strength) Armor +10 (req. 8 Expertise) This made this a fairly useful item for every class in the game, but not over powered because each of the requirements was a classes Primary Attribute. In the case of energt, everyone gets the base +5, for it has no requirement. Then if you meet one of the requirements, such as 8 Divine Favor, you get an additional +3. The same applies for the armor, only it has no bonus that doesn't have a requirement. So a monk with an 8 in Divine Favor would get a bonus of +8 energy and +8 armor, while a Range with an 8 in Expertise would get +5 energy and +10 armor (but rangers have 2 handed weapons (bows) so this is only go for some trapper builds).