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pino · Jun 01, 2006, 01:49 PM // 13:49

Hi,

I am Pino and want to start my own guild. But i have a problem.

1st Q: I always have wanted to have my own guild but i need help. Is there any helpfull person that can help me with making a guild and getting membrs etc. I can buy the hall etc. If you want to help me, please find me in-game. Unholy Pino or Holy Pino (got 2 accounts). Please contact me!!

2nd Q: How to start a alliance, how to alliance with somebody?

IGN: Holy Pino & Unholy Pino

Pino

HELP!!!!

DeanBB · Jun 01, 2006, 03:18 PM // 15:18

Honestly if you are starting with nothing, not even friends to draw from, then perhaps you should join another guild.

There are guild registers and emblemers in some towns to start one and make a cape. Then visit the guild halls and pick one you want and buy a sigil, all that is available at the halls.

As far as recruiting, start helping people in the early areas of the game and ask those who are not in a guild if they wish to join yours. It is pretty hard to start with no members though, that's not a lot of incentive to join up.

Don't even worry about an alliance if you have no guild members. You invite a guild like you invite a person into your guild, except it costs 1000g instead of 100g.

If you do get going then get a forum, Forumer provides free ones (see ours as example, link to left). A forum helps you communicate with the guildies and perhaps recruit others if you can get it advertised on forums like this.

Sorry, not trying to be harsh, just expressing the reality of guild life.

demon dantes · Jun 01, 2006, 03:23 PM // 15:23

1-Starting a guild from scratch is not the easiest thing to do. Most likelly you are going to spend hours upon hours of sitting in towns and spamming for members. Now this method works for some but others makes people start to flame you. Not to mention as you are going to be the only one in the guild most people might not want to join.

If you have friends that would join up with you right away would be an easier way to get some starter people in your guild so you have some substance. Or buy a guild from someone who is selling one (not highlly reccomended but...) and hope the people left stay in it.

2-Making an alliance is very easy. All you do is find an alliance that is looking for other guilds and they will invite you. Just remember that some guilds only want substance (as in faction farmers). So if this is not what you are looking for out of a alliance make sure you ask before hand.

It is always nice to run your own guild. With the game being out as long as it has though best bet imho pray you have people who will join right away. Or join a nice guild.

pino · Jun 01, 2006, 03:35 PM // 15:35

But noone wants to help me?

nohooiam · Jun 01, 2006, 04:24 PM // 16:24

sigh....

obviously you don't even have any plans as to what to do with their your guild.

it seems like you want a guild just for the sake of having one.

i think it would be a waste of time for anyone to help you recruit members or to join your guild.

anyone starting a guild should ask themselves these two questions.

1. what is the point of your guild?

2. why should anyone choose your guild when there so many others to choose from?

and to be honest, i don't think you have what it takes to lead a guild, if you can't even develop a basic plan to expand your guild.

if you did find someone to help you, you might as well make them the guild leader since they'll end up doing most of the work.

pino · Jun 01, 2006, 04:33 PM // 16:33

ouch...?

pino · Jun 01, 2006, 04:35 PM // 16:35

I have a plan...

DeanBB · Jun 01, 2006, 04:51 PM // 16:51

Hmmm, I coulda sworn we were trying to help. Did I miss something? Or should I quit my guild and join yours?

nohooiam · Jun 01, 2006, 05:03 PM // 17:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by pino

I have a plan...

okay. i'll help you get started. answer these two questions for me.

1. what is the point of your guild?

2. why should anyone choose your guild when there so many others to choose from?

ender6 · Jun 02, 2006, 08:44 PM // 20:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by nohooiam

okay. i'll help you get started. answer these two questions for me.

1. what is the point of your guild?

2. why should anyone choose your guild when there so many others to choose from?

I'll take a stab at it...

1) The point of the guild is clearly to help Pino out in all aspects of the game, and perhaps outside of the game.

2) Why should anyone choose his guild? Because he is a man of you words. No boring loquacious orations from this guy!

pino · Jun 03, 2006, 06:38 AM // 06:38

Thank youender6.

I will answer them as well now.

1. A guild that plays GvG's with experienced ppl. PvE only, but PvP for GvG if you dont have the right characters for a GvG. A guild that is friendly and has fun oustide serious situations like GvG's (you must take them serious). We are going to organise maybe to 1v1 or 2v2 or whatever scrimmages so we have a like top whatever so guys can beat other guys and you can have more and more fun.

2. This is not a easy question, i think because we are going to organize tournaments and play much GvG's in the future (when there will be more members). But there are always other guilds that do the same. But i would say because we have fun but can also be serious in GvG's and organize stuff for the guild and have a communication. (Im getting phpNuke, have TS Svr channel)

I think i answerd these question well now.

I hope i will hear more from you nohooiam.

Pino

Aisius · Jun 03, 2006, 01:30 PM // 13:30

There's plenty of ideas out there , you just need a theme.
A theme is basically what your guild intends to achieve in GW's.
From the theme of your guild you can create a name and begin to guide your guild towards it's objectives. The process of creating a theme can always be helped along by the players you quest with earlier on or some friends that you've met that may influence you and importantly your experiences and interpretations of the game help create a theme.

Think time frame as well . When do you intend to be GvG ?
How many hrs a day will your members will be active ?
Are all your members in the same time frame part of the world? Do they have similar goals/objectives as your guild ?

All these things will help shape your theme and then your guild name and any subsequent titles that officers may want to take on.

Your starting now to create a core of players , these are the characters and people that will be the foundation of your guild, you will want to be as much yourself with them as you can be and allow them to be themselves. Hopefully alot of the questions asked above about your guild your playerbase will be suited to. If thats the case then you can start to train with your members and move further along the time line reaching for the guilds goals and later open up the doors for more recruits.

Main reason I have found that players leave guilds without saying so is lack of activity. You need to decide how you can supply your guild with activity. Maybe just talking in guild chat exchanging ideas, asking questions about the professions in guild wars. There are many ways you can keep up guild morale- social events , outings to unexplored territories, conquering missions , training tests and exchange ideas in pvp practice.

My suggestion is to approuch non guilded characters by wipsering a hello and simply describing your guild and ask them if they think they'd like be a part of a guild like yours , don't pressure anyone leave them with a site address if you have one and wait it out, ,likely they'll think on it and in the long run your patience will succeed over other guilds spams. =) Goodluck

ender6 · Jun 04, 2006, 01:12 AM // 01:12

LOL...

Pino, my apologies, it's just that your concise fashion of speaking (eg. I am Pino) reminds me of a comedy skit "Call me conquistador". Regardless, from reading your actual desires for a guild, it would seem to me that you are looking to joing a guild rather that start a guild. Further, I think you would find it far more easy and far more beneficial to join a guild at this time as opposed to starting one yourself.

I am ender...

pino · Jun 04, 2006, 06:30 AM // 06:30

To ender6:
Why did u say: ''My apologies?''
(Sorry i am dutch, i dont understand everything u say, u have a difficult english speaking way ^^)
To aisius: I am trying already in droknars forge, cause i thought, if i go reruit in ascalon, i only get new players, and my plan was a bit to get experienced players, so they already know what to do and stuff. I have now a bit like 10 members... I bought a guild hall immediatly, and its nice. The ppl talk in guild chat much, have fun. But most arent so experienced... What shall i do... Leave them in the guild or say i only want experienced ppl, thats a bit rude... I dont know what to do...

Pino

Aisius · Jun 04, 2006, 06:38 AM // 06:38

I just think be creative.

See if there's anywhere in the game guildies would like to form in groups and go and kill some stuff.

That's sort of what i was thinking. Or even get to know a particular mission. See how fast the guild team can get through the mission and get a measure for what skill lvls everyone is at, get to know their strengths and weaknesses and go from there.

Main thing is to have a regular activity, something that the guild members can look forward to and discuss in guild chat at there leasure.

Even do some research into the user inteface of guild wars and what style best suites certain professions, just get talking and working together. The players you have now will keep guilding with you knowing that they're a part of something.

Hope it works out.

nic0008 · Jun 04, 2006, 07:56 AM // 07:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aisius

I just think be creative.
Main thing is to have a regular activity, something that the guild members can look forward to and discuss in guild chat at there leasure.

Yeah something like HA,TA,GvG ect for a regular activity is probally one of the main factors of having a guild.

Just be creative like maybe have guild lotto each week or something

I hope it turns out good for ya!

nohooiam · Jun 06, 2006, 04:15 PM // 16:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by pino

1. A guild that plays GvG's with experienced ppl. PvE only, but PvP for GvG if you dont have the right characters for a GvG. A guild that is friendly and has fun oustide serious situations like GvG's (you must tae them serious). We are going to organise maybe to 1v1 or 2v2 or whatever scrimmages so we have a like top whatever so guys can beat other guys and you can have more and more fun.

Guess that works.

Quote:

Originally Posted by pino

2. This is not a easy question, i think because we are going to organize tournaments and play much GvG's in the future (when there will be more members). But there are always other guilds that do the same. But i would say because we have fun but can also be serious in GvG's and organize stuff for the guild and have a communication. (Im getting phpNuke, have TS Svr channel).

You need to rethink this part. Every guild wants to be an active all encompassing guild. The problem is there have been about a million guilds that tried to do this and fell flat on their face. I still don't see your plan for keeping the guild past the one month mark.

Jun 01, 2006, 01:49 PM // 13:49	#1
pino Banned Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: The Netherlands Profession: Mo/Me	Need help! Hi, I am Pino and want to start my own guild. But i have a problem. 1st Q: I always have wanted to have my own guild but i need help. Is there any helpfull person that can help me with making a guild and getting membrs etc. I can buy the hall etc. If you want to help me, please find me in-game. Unholy Pino or Holy Pino (got 2 accounts). Please contact me!! 2nd Q: How to start a alliance, how to alliance with somebody? IGN: Holy Pino & Unholy Pino Pino HELP!!!!

Jun 01, 2006, 04:24 PM // 16:24	#5
nohooiam Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Apr 2005 Guild: Forsaken Sanctuary Profession: Mo/Me	sigh.... obviously you don't even have any plans as to what to do with their your guild. it seems like you want a guild just for the sake of having one. i think it would be a waste of time for anyone to help you recruit members or to join your guild. anyone starting a guild should ask themselves these two questions. 1. what is the point of your guild? 2. why should anyone choose your guild when there so many others to choose from? and to be honest, i don't think you have what it takes to lead a guild, if you can't even develop a basic plan to expand your guild. if you did find someone to help you, you might as well make them the guild leader since they'll end up doing most of the work. Last edited by nohooiam; Jun 01, 2006 at 04:34 PM // 16:34..

Jun 03, 2006, 01:30 PM // 13:30	#12
Aisius Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Melbourne , Australia Guild: Crazy Clan[CRAZ] Profession: W/	There's plenty of ideas out there , you just need a theme. A theme is basically what your guild intends to achieve in GW's. From the theme of your guild you can create a name and begin to guide your guild towards it's objectives. The process of creating a theme can always be helped along by the players you quest with earlier on or some friends that you've met that may influence you and importantly your experiences and interpretations of the game help create a theme. Think time frame as well . When do you intend to be GvG ? How many hrs a day will your members will be active ? Are all your members in the same time frame part of the world? Do they have similar goals/objectives as your guild ? All these things will help shape your theme and then your guild name and any subsequent titles that officers may want to take on. Your starting now to create a core of players , these are the characters and people that will be the foundation of your guild, you will want to be as much yourself with them as you can be and allow them to be themselves. Hopefully alot of the questions asked above about your guild your playerbase will be suited to. If thats the case then you can start to train with your members and move further along the time line reaching for the guilds goals and later open up the doors for more recruits. Main reason I have found that players leave guilds without saying so is lack of activity. You need to decide how you can supply your guild with activity. Maybe just talking in guild chat exchanging ideas, asking questions about the professions in guild wars. There are many ways you can keep up guild morale- social events , outings to unexplored territories, conquering missions , training tests and exchange ideas in pvp practice. My suggestion is to approuch non guilded characters by wipsering a hello and simply describing your guild and ask them if they think they'd like be a part of a guild like yours , don't pressure anyone leave them with a site address if you have one and wait it out, ,likely they'll think on it and in the long run your patience will succeed over other guilds spams. =) Goodluck Last edited by Aisius; Jun 03, 2006 at 01:33 PM // 13:33..

Jun 04, 2006, 06:38 AM // 06:38	#15
Aisius Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Melbourne , Australia Guild: Crazy Clan[CRAZ] Profession: W/	I just think be creative. See if there's anywhere in the game guildies would like to form in groups and go and kill some stuff. That's sort of what i was thinking. Or even get to know a particular mission. See how fast the guild team can get through the mission and get a measure for what skill lvls everyone is at, get to know their strengths and weaknesses and go from there. Main thing is to have a regular activity, something that the guild members can look forward to and discuss in guild chat at there leasure. Even do some research into the user inteface of guild wars and what style best suites certain professions, just get talking and working together. The players you have now will keep guilding with you knowing that they're a part of something. Hope it works out. Last edited by Aisius; Jun 04, 2006 at 06:57 AM // 06:57..

Jun 01, 2006, 03:18 PM // 15:18	#2
DeanBB Forge Runner Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Arizona Guild: Wizardry Players Guild, http://4guildwars.7.forumer.com	Honestly if you are starting with nothing, not even friends to draw from, then perhaps you should join another guild. There are guild registers and emblemers in some towns to start one and make a cape. Then visit the guild halls and pick one you want and buy a sigil, all that is available at the halls. As far as recruiting, start helping people in the early areas of the game and ask those who are not in a guild if they wish to join yours. It is pretty hard to start with no members though, that's not a lot of incentive to join up. Don't even worry about an alliance if you have no guild members. You invite a guild like you invite a person into your guild, except it costs 1000g instead of 100g. If you do get going then get a forum, Forumer provides free ones (see ours as example, link to left). A forum helps you communicate with the guildies and perhaps recruit others if you can get it advertised on forums like this. Sorry, not trying to be harsh, just expressing the reality of guild life.

Jun 01, 2006, 03:23 PM // 15:23	#3
demon dantes Krytan Explorer Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: ny Guild: Iyanden Wraithguard Profession: Mo/Me	1-Starting a guild from scratch is not the easiest thing to do. Most likelly you are going to spend hours upon hours of sitting in towns and spamming for members. Now this method works for some but others makes people start to flame you. Not to mention as you are going to be the only one in the guild most people might not want to join. If you have friends that would join up with you right away would be an easier way to get some starter people in your guild so you have some substance. Or buy a guild from someone who is selling one (not highlly reccomended but...) and hope the people left stay in it. 2-Making an alliance is very easy. All you do is find an alliance that is looking for other guilds and they will invite you. Just remember that some guilds only want substance (as in faction farmers). So if this is not what you are looking for out of a alliance make sure you ask before hand. It is always nice to run your own guild. With the game being out as long as it has though best bet imho pray you have people who will join right away. Or join a nice guild.

Jun 01, 2006, 03:35 PM // 15:35	#4
pino Banned Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: The Netherlands Profession: Mo/Me	But noone wants to help me?

Jun 01, 2006, 04:33 PM // 16:33	#6
pino Banned Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: The Netherlands Profession: Mo/Me	ouch...?

Jun 01, 2006, 04:35 PM // 16:35	#7
pino Banned Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: The Netherlands Profession: Mo/Me	I have a plan...

Jun 01, 2006, 04:51 PM // 16:51	#8
DeanBB Forge Runner Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Arizona Guild: Wizardry Players Guild, http://4guildwars.7.forumer.com	Hmmm, I coulda sworn we were trying to help. Did I miss something? Or should I quit my guild and join yours?

Jun 03, 2006, 06:38 AM // 06:38	#11
pino Banned Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: The Netherlands Profession: Mo/Me	Thank youender6. I will answer them as well now. 1. A guild that plays GvG's with experienced ppl. PvE only, but PvP for GvG if you dont have the right characters for a GvG. A guild that is friendly and has fun oustide serious situations like GvG's (you must take them serious). We are going to organise maybe to 1v1 or 2v2 or whatever scrimmages so we have a like top whatever so guys can beat other guys and you can have more and more fun. 2. This is not a easy question, i think because we are going to organize tournaments and play much GvG's in the future (when there will be more members). But there are always other guilds that do the same. But i would say because we have fun but can also be serious in GvG's and organize stuff for the guild and have a communication. (Im getting phpNuke, have TS Svr channel) I think i answerd these question well now. I hope i will hear more from you nohooiam. Pino

Jun 04, 2006, 01:12 AM // 01:12	#13
ender6 Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Feb 2006 Profession: Mo/	LOL... Pino, my apologies, it's just that your concise fashion of speaking (eg. I am Pino) reminds me of a comedy skit "Call me conquistador". Regardless, from reading your actual desires for a guild, it would seem to me that you are looking to joing a guild rather that start a guild. Further, I think you would find it far more easy and far more beneficial to join a guild at this time as opposed to starting one yourself. I am ender...

Jun 04, 2006, 06:30 AM // 06:30	#14
pino Banned Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: The Netherlands Profession: Mo/Me	To ender6: Why did u say: ''My apologies?'' (Sorry i am dutch, i dont understand everything u say, u have a difficult english speaking way ^^) To aisius: I am trying already in droknars forge, cause i thought, if i go reruit in ascalon, i only get new players, and my plan was a bit to get experienced players, so they already know what to do and stuff. I have now a bit like 10 members... I bought a guild hall immediatly, and its nice. The ppl talk in guild chat much, have fun. But most arent so experienced... What shall i do... Leave them in the guild or say i only want experienced ppl, thats a bit rude... I dont know what to do... Pino