Guild Wars additional fees? - Page 2 - Guild Wars Forums

Mimi Miyagi · May 12, 2006, 07:46 AM // 07:46

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Originally Posted by KvanCetre

Somehow, more character slots = advantage in PvP.

More developed characters? Did he forget that you create PvP characters at level 20?

It's faster to unlock skills for a profession via pve than it is for pvp. While you technically start at lvl 20 for any pvp character, you still need to unlock the necessary skills to actually play the role your guild is requesting you to run.

Simply roll up a pve character, do all of the quests (or get run if you're lazy), do every quest that unlocks skills, and buy the rest. Any elites you need you can unlock via faction, if it's too much of a hassle to cap regularly.

I can make a fully developed character in less than a week or average play, with all needed runes, skills, etc that your typical build use, via mainly pve and perhaps a couple runs of gvg.

It's actually somewhat sad - the majority of skills in any particular profession are usually never used which makes creating a character with the most common skills laughably easy.

Miss Innocent · May 12, 2006, 07:51 AM // 07:51

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Originally Posted by Mr_T_bot

Now back in reality...

Those games have more content, without expansions, than both Prophecies and Factions campaigns combined. There are multiple servers and on each server you can have over 10 characters, no less than 6, with a much longer game length thus keeping you focused on one char for a decent period of time.

Not to mention there is perfectly adequate storage capacity on both the person and "bank" storage for each character.

More content? I don't need more content.

As for the article, it is again NOT a required fee. It is an option. One that I don't mind at all.

I want to point out that, for PvP characters, having more slots means nothing. You are able to quickly and painlessly remake PvP characters to no end, and letting players make 20 characters if they want means nothing. You can play a warrior one match, an Ele the next, an assassin next.... all you have to do is delete your character and remake it between each match.

This is a bonus that appeals to PvE players, who are more likely to say "I want to play an Assassin, but I already used all six slots for other classes".

Mr_Ms_Chunk · May 12, 2006, 07:51 AM // 07:51

i could care less about paying $50 every six months or paying $10 for additional character slots. I'm sure Anet will provided additional character slots with each new profession just to keep it fair and if we want, we can purchase extras for $9.99. I am saving time and mony by buying an additional character slot for $9.99 since that account will be UAX rather than starting over from the beginning. Also you would need to buy a copy of prophecies and factions to have the benefits of both. Therefore the extra slots for $9.99 is beneficial for everyone unless you are broke and have no job but can somehow cover the cost of a $400 video card and complain about it paynig for an additional slot.

Kudos to Anet for giving us many options.

Miss Innocent · May 12, 2006, 08:05 AM // 08:05

Looking at that article again, it seems like the author fails to understand that Arena net gives you two free slots just for buying the expansion (which happens to be the number of slots you need for an Assassin and a Ritualist).

Don Zardeone · May 12, 2006, 12:54 PM // 12:54

I can make a site like that too:

"Hi, I'm an ex-employee of ANet and I'm here to tell you that Gaile said that you all smell!"

blah blah blah

There's no face on the articles. The author needs a face.

Claudia Starlight · Jun 07, 2006, 01:59 PM // 13:59

um, when is this going to happen? And... do i have to pay by credit card for this?

Hockster · Jun 07, 2006, 02:02 PM // 14:02

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Originally Posted by Claudia Starlight

um, when is this going to happen? And... do i have to pay by credit card for this?

Maybe read the thread before posting next time.

milias · Jun 07, 2006, 02:30 PM // 14:30

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Originally Posted by Alex Weekes

There are absolutely no plans for any fees to play. Character slots are purely optional to the player, one-off payments and will remain that way - and, as already noted, they will be implemented because you all asked us to.

You'll be playing Guild Wars for free as long as the servers are running. You'll always have the option of buying new chapters. Additional non-campaign purchases, such as character slots, will be your choice as well.

Why is there then a clause in the EULA saying that ANet reserves the right to charge additional fees, which include monthly fees, in the future? If ANet truly intended to never charge monthly fees, why is this clause even there?

Hockster · Jun 07, 2006, 03:34 PM // 15:34

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Originally Posted by milias

Why is there then a clause in the EULA saying that ANet reserves the right to charge additional fees, which include monthly fees, in the future? If ANet truly intended to never charge monthly fees, why is this clause even there?

Because in many Asian countries there is a pay to play option for use in Internet Cafes.

xenoranger · Jun 07, 2006, 03:40 PM // 15:40

Meh....no big (IMO). I was playing Phantasy Star Online at $7/mo and my wife plays World of Warcraft (as well as GW) for $13/mo. If you look at it, the GW method allows you to keep playing or choose to upgrade. It's not necessary to upgrade to keep playing your current version, so if you REALLY like factions, stay with it. If you want to get new content (besides the updates), then buy it. GW is still free after license purchase, so who really cares. I just figure ANet needed to do it at some point.

Besides, I only have 3 canthan necro elites left to cap before I have all necro skills (both cantha & tyria). I'm ready for new ground to arcane hunt on.

burai · Jun 07, 2006, 03:45 PM // 15:45

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Originally Posted by milias

Why is there then a clause in the EULA saying that ANet reserves the right to charge additional fees, which include monthly fees, in the future? If ANet truly intended to never charge monthly fees, why is this clause even there?

That'll be the legal boys & girls covering their well-proportioned rear-ends.

Anet legal: So what if we change our minds and want to start charging a fee?
Anet boffin: We won't
Anet legal: What if we do?
Anet boffin: We won't
Anet legal: We'll just pop a little clause in the EULA anyway - cos otherwise I'd be out of a job! (hhhhmmm, what about earthquakes, flood, fire? Hey - a job for life)

Legal types always cover all the angles - no matter how irrelevant.

... or of course it could be that they plan to introduce a fee

EDIT:

I've only just read the article, and it does seem the author has some grievance with Anet.

Apparently it was written by 'Gaile'

The Doppleganger?

Beat_Go_Stick · Jun 07, 2006, 03:57 PM // 15:57

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Originally Posted by GranDeWun

I staggered, and spilled some of my $4 coffee....

Some video game deprived starving Ethiopian child could have played for months with what you spilled on the ground!

RinkXing · Jun 07, 2006, 04:17 PM // 16:17

Hasn't this argument being running since GW was released over a year ago?

I agree totally with xenoranger,

It's quite simple, if a monthly fee comes in, quit playing or pay to play, but untill then if it ever does happen (possibly the worst move for the game ever, as 75%+ of players would probably stop playing, so I seriously doubt it wouldn't happen) keep playing and enjoy the game, because I'm rather sure that there will never be a subscription fee.

Regarding the character slots and additional chapters, is anyone FORCING you to buy them? It's new content, buy if you want and buy to explore some new land, more weapons and more things to do, and the new slots were perfectly optional, as stated on the GW website, it's for those who want MORE character slots, not 'get it or die!!'

I sure will be continuing to buy additional chapters and continue to support arenanet, obviously they need to pay for their servers, and I believe I heard that the expansions would be partially used to pay the fees for those servers. Besides, I'd prefer to be paying fees for Expansions with whole new continents rather than each month for the occasional dungeon (Free Sorrows Furnace anyone?) in a patch I need to spend a load of time to download (I'm hinting at WoW here)

Loviatar · Jun 07, 2006, 04:26 PM // 16:26

the biggest selling point of the game is buy it and play it no monthly fee.

i am supporting Anet by buying chapters (and will continue) to get chapters as i have had much fun from it.

monthly fee? i will leave instantly (with regret)

milias · Jun 07, 2006, 05:17 PM // 17:17

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Originally Posted by Hockster

Because in many Asian countries there is a pay to play option for use in Internet Cafes.

Yea, so? Let me rephrase that question. Why is there such a clause in the EULA for a game that I bought in America? By your line of reasoning, ANet/NCSoft is too lazy to make different EULA's for different regions/countries?

Loviatar · Jun 07, 2006, 05:27 PM // 17:27

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Originally Posted by milias

Yea, so? Let me rephrase that question. Why is there such a clause in the EULA for a game that I bought in America? By your line of reasoning, ANet/NCSoft is too lazy to make different EULA's for different regions/countries?

yes clueless they do have one standard company wide EULA and this was explained by the reps as having to cover many countries (they are multinational you know) including asian fee/hour use.

not lazy but efficient and not having one clause conflict with another from another country.

CLEAR NOW?

EDIT

AFTER ALL IT IS ONE GAME WORLDWIDE SO ONE EULA

The Lich Ranger · Jun 07, 2006, 07:02 PM // 19:02

lol so many people complaining about something that isnt even a mandatory thing, this is an OPTION, you can stay in tyria with 4 characters, it doesnt affect us

Andy_M · Jun 07, 2006, 10:38 PM // 22:38

You pay 4 bucks (about ??2.50 in real money) for a coffee ?

Can I have your stuff ?

Ure Maker · Jun 08, 2006, 01:37 AM // 01:37

i heard this was aload of bs, from some1 who had there account banned,
BUT..

if anet did release a pay monthly subscription well they would sink

many people play GW caus they dont like monthly fee's like WoW

i play GW caus well i h8 WoW i like a tad more realism

so wats the point in all the people who play GW caus there is no subsription when they can pay the same price and play a game they wanted like WoW, EQ and so on

Olfin Bedwere · Jun 08, 2006, 03:24 AM // 03:24

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Originally Posted by RinkXing

Hasn't this argument being running since GW was released over a year ago?

Actually it been argued since the E3 event.

Jun 07, 2006, 04:17 PM // 16:17	#33
RinkXing Academy Page Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: United Kingdom Guild: Biscuit of Dewm [MEEP] Profession: N/	Hasn't this argument being running since GW was released over a year ago? I agree totally with xenoranger, It's quite simple, if a monthly fee comes in, quit playing or pay to play, but untill then if it ever does happen (possibly the worst move for the game ever, as 75%+ of players would probably stop playing, so I seriously doubt it wouldn't happen) keep playing and enjoy the game, because I'm rather sure that there will never be a subscription fee. Regarding the character slots and additional chapters, is anyone FORCING you to buy them? It's new content, buy if you want and buy to explore some new land, more weapons and more things to do, and the new slots were perfectly optional, as stated on the GW website, it's for those who want MORE character slots, not 'get it or die!!' I sure will be continuing to buy additional chapters and continue to support arenanet, obviously they need to pay for their servers, and I believe I heard that the expansions would be partially used to pay the fees for those servers. Besides, I'd prefer to be paying fees for Expansions with whole new continents rather than each month for the occasional dungeon (Free Sorrows Furnace anyone?) in a patch I need to spend a load of time to download (I'm hinting at WoW here) Last edited by RinkXing; Jun 07, 2006 at 04:28 PM // 16:28..

May 12, 2006, 07:51 AM // 07:51	#23
Mr_Ms_Chunk Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Urgoz Guild: AeC, Vege, gg, Eu, NoZ. vEx, Love, Illi Profession: N/Me	i could care less about paying $50 every six months or paying $10 for additional character slots. I'm sure Anet will provided additional character slots with each new profession just to keep it fair and if we want, we can purchase extras for $9.99. I am saving time and mony by buying an additional character slot for $9.99 since that account will be UAX rather than starting over from the beginning. Also you would need to buy a copy of prophecies and factions to have the benefits of both. Therefore the extra slots for $9.99 is beneficial for everyone unless you are broke and have no job but can somehow cover the cost of a $400 video card and complain about it paynig for an additional slot. Kudos to Anet for giving us many options.

May 12, 2006, 08:05 AM // 08:05	#24
Miss Innocent Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: I wander. Profession: Mo/R	Looking at that article again, it seems like the author fails to understand that Arena net gives you two free slots just for buying the expansion (which happens to be the number of slots you need for an Assassin and a Ritualist).

May 12, 2006, 12:54 PM // 12:54	#25
Don Zardeone Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Oct 2005	I can make a site like that too: "Hi, I'm an ex-employee of ANet and I'm here to tell you that Gaile said that you all smell!" blah blah blah There's no face on the articles. The author needs a face.

Jun 07, 2006, 01:59 PM // 13:59	#26
Claudia Starlight Academy Page Join Date: May 2006 Profession: Me/Mo	um, when is this going to happen? And... do i have to pay by credit card for this?

Jun 07, 2006, 03:40 PM // 15:40	#30
xenoranger Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Nov 2005	Meh....no big (IMO). I was playing Phantasy Star Online at $7/mo and my wife plays World of Warcraft (as well as GW) for $13/mo. If you look at it, the GW method allows you to keep playing or choose to upgrade. It's not necessary to upgrade to keep playing your current version, so if you REALLY like factions, stay with it. If you want to get new content (besides the updates), then buy it. GW is still free after license purchase, so who really cares. I just figure ANet needed to do it at some point. Besides, I only have 3 canthan necro elites left to cap before I have all necro skills (both cantha & tyria). I'm ready for new ground to arcane hunt on.

Jun 07, 2006, 04:26 PM // 16:26	#34
Loviatar Underworld Spelunker Join Date: Feb 2005	the biggest selling point of the game is buy it and play it no monthly fee. i am supporting Anet by buying chapters (and will continue) to get chapters as i have had much fun from it. monthly fee? i will leave instantly (with regret)

Jun 07, 2006, 07:02 PM // 19:02	#37
The Lich Ranger Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Home Guild: Children Of Orion Profession: Mo/Me	lol so many people complaining about something that isnt even a mandatory thing, this is an OPTION, you can stay in tyria with 4 characters, it doesnt affect us

Jun 07, 2006, 10:38 PM // 22:38	#38
Andy_M Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: May 2005 Location: Worthing, UK Guild: (Don't fear) The Beaver	You pay 4 bucks (about ??2.50 in real money) for a coffee ? Can I have your stuff ?

Jun 08, 2006, 01:37 AM // 01:37	#39
Ure Maker Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: yer right.... Guild: Suicide Bunnies Profession: R/Me	i heard this was aload of bs, from some1 who had there account banned, BUT.. if anet did release a pay monthly subscription well they would sink many people play GW caus they dont like monthly fee's like WoW i play GW caus well i h8 WoW i like a tad more realism so wats the point in all the people who play GW caus there is no subsription when they can pay the same price and play a game they wanted like WoW, EQ and so on