Coridan · Jul 15, 2006, 01:24 PM // 13:24

Well.....not getting his armor infused coud be....because he is not far enough in the game to get it in fused....He is in the Ice caves of sorrow mission...Pretty sure u don't get infused until Iron Mines or Mineral SPrings...I think what he is looking for is an........ ATTA BOY!!!

Seriouly GJ

Coridan

majoho · Jul 15, 2006, 01:28 PM // 13:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hand of Ruin

Why would you even go to the trouble of doing it without infused? Does that make you special or something...

Exactly, this thread is pointless - I assume the OP is just trying to brag.

Big_Iron · Jul 15, 2006, 01:38 PM // 13:38

Who cares? It's not that hard to get your armor infused if you get a new set. I keep seeing "if you're prepared." Well, being prepared would be having your stinking armor infused. Can you do it? Sure. But why go through the hassle of fighting them and "being careful" when it takes like 5 minutes to get infused?

Vahn Roi · Jul 15, 2006, 01:49 PM // 13:49

People hench these missions all the time and it has been said that henchmen aren't infused. Old Hat.

The spamming is getting very annoying. On a forum this large I should be seeing multiple topics by the same poster this frequently and they're all fluff.'

Furthermore no one gives two drops of monkey piss how high your post count is

Gorebrex · Jul 15, 2006, 02:28 PM // 14:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by majoho

Exactly, this thread is pointless - I assume the OP is just trying to brag.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vahn Roi

People hench these missions all the time and it has been said that henchmen aren't infused. Old Hat.

The spamming is getting very annoying. On a forum this large I should be seeing multiple topics by the same poster this frequently and they're all fluff.'

Furthermore no one gives two drops of monkey piss how high your post count is

Your assumtion is incorrect.
Theres no spam, its your imagination. Sorry I dont meet your standard for posting, even though I have no clue what it is(you werent real easy to figure out in your in-game whispers, and then you ignored me. LOL! ).
Including me! YTF do people say that? I dont get it... let me say it now,
I DONT CARE ABOUT MY POST COUNT! GET OVER IT!

Now, away from the flaming...
I dont follow the "Normal Gaming Standard" I guess, dont know the details on alot of stuff, Ive never been that deep into any game, that I can(as Ive seen on some posts), recognize a skill(that I dont have) just from a picture. I learn as I go, and dont go looking for everthing bit of info I can find. If I run into a situation Im not sure of, Ill look something up, otherwise, I go with what I know.
(think I figured it out. Im getting flamed by people who are trying to get a thread they dont like closed. Well, sorry, but I dont complain abut other people, unless I find it VERY(bordering on possible illegality) offensive to me.

Antheus · Jul 15, 2006, 02:39 PM // 14:39

You also don't need armor. If someone bonds you, adds prot spirit, keeps spirits around, then all the warriors can attack naked.

You don't even need weapons, since you can rely on casters to do damage.

But it makes life so much easier if you come prepared. So it's kinda pointless to discuss whether you need infused armor.

You need infusion exactly as much as you need armor, weapons, runes and weapon mods. You can play entire game without those, as long as you play smart. Hell, 55s farm UW mobs with lowest armor and yule cap.

But it makes it so much easier, not just on you, but the rest of the group. Especially monks your group will notice that something is wrong. Just like if a tank brings 65 armor or something.

And infusion run is one of the simpler things in game, and one of more populated, so it's absolutely no excuse not to do it when considering joining a group. Everyone and everyone after the infusion mission should have their full armor infused.

infusco · Jul 15, 2006, 04:23 PM // 16:23

Sure you can fight a full group of Mursaat with an un-infused party.

You can also jump off a cliff and try and get the trees to break your fall.

The odds of the surviving the former are just shy of the that of surviving the latter. I recommend neither.

Stockholm · Jul 15, 2006, 04:33 PM // 16:33

Bah low level was run to S.Shivers and without doing Desert he can't get in to the Infusion mission yet.

Gorebrex · Jul 15, 2006, 05:01 PM // 17:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caelus The Fallen

The fact is, eventually you will be forced to confront Mursaat in larger groups, no matter how "smart" you are. That said, by the time this is an issue, all the henchmen become infused, so you wont be able to claim that you faced them with an unifused team anyway.

I realize that, and as to why would I do it w/o being infused? I COULDNT get infused, as I didnt have acess to Iron mines at the time. I know its easier being infused, and Im going to do mission for it as soon as I can get into/create a decent party(henchies keep screwing me up). Stockholm, Im not sure what you mean by that, so I cant respond. The whole point of this is, as long as youre not facing a sizeable group, are careful with aggro/pulls, the Mursaat arent as bad as theyre made out to be. They are strong, yes, but in smaller groups, theyre not extremely difficult too defeat.

majoho · Jul 15, 2006, 06:03 PM // 18:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gorebrex

The whole point of this is, as long as youre not facing a sizeable group, are careful with aggro/pulls, the Mursaat arent as bad as theyre made out to be. They are strong, yes, but in smaller groups, theyre not extremely difficult too defeat.

Well that's a common known fact, you can indeed take on a few Mursaat without being infused.

However that's NOT what you made this thread about.

Hephaestus Ram · Jul 15, 2006, 06:57 PM // 18:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by majoho

So basically the OP ask a question that he thinks he already "knows" the answer to in his opinion (he doesn't acknowledge any of the replies).

So I'm asking myself, what is the point with this thread?

Is there somewhere in the forum posting guidlines that says that
your posts always have to have a point and be meaningful to
everyone else? I haven't seen it, can someone give me a link?

I've opened a lot of threads based on the header, looked at the
content, and said meh...not interested in that and went on to
something else. I didn't feel like I needed to ridicule the OP for
wanting to talk about something that was interesting to him but
not me.

So what's the deal? Is there a shortage of space here or something?
I've seen a few people at Ice Caves that insist the bonus can't be
done if you're not infused, so I don't see why this is an invalid topic.

majoho · Jul 15, 2006, 07:02 PM // 19:02

I could ask you the same thing.

Canadian Bacon · Jul 15, 2006, 10:16 PM // 22:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matsumi

I guess you don't really need to unless this happens...

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Spectral_Agony

I just edited this article to be aligned with the 7/13/06 update (fixed the line that said shields CAN reduce the damage to shields CANNOT, plus some other words).

Mesmer in Need · Jul 15, 2006, 11:56 PM // 23:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Former Ruling

Ok, name soemthing else that can do 100dmg per second, and cause -10 degen.

Me/e (me) :crippling anguish+conjour phantasm /meteor storm
also, are pets and minions resistant against s. agony?

Fyre Brand · Jul 16, 2006, 12:26 AM // 00:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gorebrex

Im aking for(and recieving) opinions on whether or not infused armor vs Mursaat is a "necessity", and no, I dont believe it is(as stated in original post), and hope to help people find a way to effectively fight Mursaat if theyre not infused.

Is it necessary against 1 - 3 with Mhenlo/Alesia and Lina covering you? Not usually. I think you should credit the power of the henchies in helping people fight the mursaat with uninfused armour.

If you had screenshots of a coupld good caps on that bar instead of signets (which only shows that the henchies carried you) then that would be impressive. Cap Coventina (aura of faith) and Odelyn (life transfer) uninfused with that skill bar and that would be impressive.

I think what a majority of the people are trying to tell you is that at one time or another most people have faced a mursaat band uninfused and lived (henchies ftw). With that said it's just silly to do that and when you try and move through mursaat territory it's not going to go that smooth. It would be just as quick to run up (with the henches) and infuse yourself rather than working around -100 health dps.

Evilsod · Jul 16, 2006, 12:57 AM // 00:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mesmer in Need

Me/e (me) :crippling anguish+conjour phantasm /meteor storm
also, are pets and minions resistant against s. agony?

100 damage every 3 seconds and -8 degen

Your not even close. Plus its Meteor Shower.

Mesmer in Need · Jul 16, 2006, 12:59 AM // 00:59

oh well deal. I was just being funny

Gorebrex · Jul 16, 2006, 03:46 AM // 03:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by majoho

Well that's a common known fact, you can indeed take on a few Mursaat without being infused.

However that's NOT what you made this thread about.

WHAT!? How the hell would you know what I made the thread about? What, you psychic? Sorry, no. You DONT know, I do. And yes, it is.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fyre Brand

Is it necessary against 1 - 3 with Mhenlo/Alesia and Lina covering you? Not usually. I think you should credit the power of the henchies in helping people fight the mursaat with uninfused armour.

If you had screenshots of a coupld good caps on that bar instead of signets (which only shows that the henchies carried you) then that would be impressive. Cap Coventina (aura of faith) and Odelyn (life transfer) uninfused with that skill bar and that would be impressive.

I think what a majority of the people are trying to tell you is that at one time or another most people have faced a mursaat band uninfused and lived (henchies ftw). With that said it's just silly to do that and when you try and move through mursaat territory it's not going to go that smooth. It would be just as quick to run up (with the henches) and infuse yourself rather than working around -100 health dps.

They DO make good fodder.

Henchies are why I had to get a PUG to do mission, kept running ahead, drawing too much aggro. I saw a post awhile ago, about controling henchies, never got it to work with them. It didnt do any good at all, like it had been made up(maybe it was, I dont know).
Wasnt trying to impress anyone... Dont know where that came from, but oh well. As to capping, cap what? Offering of Blood? No, I dont sacrifice health. Mark of Protection? Nope, Ill pass on the temporary protection spell disabling, thanks. To me, theyre not worth capping, but some would use them, I know that, but cant see why.
Tried a few runs today, only two suceeded. One for mission(forgot bonus, so had to do again). Wasnt my idea to run it, it was leader decision.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hephaestus Ram

Is there somewhere in the forum posting guidlines that says that
your posts always have to have a point and be meaningful to
everyone else? I haven't seen it, can someone give me a link?

I've opened a lot of threads based on the header, looked at the
content, and said meh...not interested in that and went on to
something else. I didn't feel like I needed to ridicule the OP for
wanting to talk about something that was interesting to him but
not me.

So what's the deal? Is there a shortage of space here or something?
I've seen a few people at Ice Caves that insist the bonus can't be
done if you're not infused, so I don't see why this is an invalid topic.

This should be stickied

majoho · Jul 16, 2006, 10:55 AM // 10:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gorebrex

WHAT!? How the hell would you know what I made the thread about? What, you psychic? Sorry, no. You DONT know, I do. And yes, it is.

So basically you're saying that only you know what this thread is about?

I was basing my statement on the content of your post.

Are you for real?

Gorebrex · Jul 17, 2006, 03:23 PM // 15:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by majoho

So basically you're saying that only you know what this thread is about?

I was basing my statement on the content of your post.

Are you for real?

For certain, yes. Anyone else who knows what its about has correctly interpreted my intent, something you seem to have failed to do, on numerous occasions, and yes, I am very much for real.

Jul 15, 2006, 01:24 PM // 13:24	#21
Coridan Forge Runner Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: US Guild: Old Married Gamers {OMG} Profession: W/	Well.....not getting his armor infused coud be....because he is not far enough in the game to get it in fused....He is in the Ice caves of sorrow mission...Pretty sure u don't get infused until Iron Mines or Mineral SPrings...I think what he is looking for is an........ ATTA BOY!!! Seriouly GJ Coridan

Jul 15, 2006, 01:38 PM // 13:38	#23
Big_Iron Desert Nomad Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: The Edge Guild: Tormented Weapons [emo]	Who cares? It's not that hard to get your armor infused if you get a new set. I keep seeing "if you're prepared." Well, being prepared would be having your stinking armor infused. Can you do it? Sure. But why go through the hassle of fighting them and "being careful" when it takes like 5 minutes to get infused?

Jul 15, 2006, 01:49 PM // 13:49	#24
Vahn Roi Forge Runner Join Date: Apr 2006 Guild: [HiDE]	People hench these missions all the time and it has been said that henchmen aren't infused. Old Hat. The spamming is getting very annoying. On a forum this large I should be seeing multiple topics by the same poster this frequently and they're all fluff.' Furthermore no one gives two drops of monkey piss how high your post count is

Jul 15, 2006, 02:39 PM // 14:39	#26
Antheus Forge Runner Join Date: Jan 2006	You also don't need armor. If someone bonds you, adds prot spirit, keeps spirits around, then all the warriors can attack naked. You don't even need weapons, since you can rely on casters to do damage. But it makes life so much easier if you come prepared. So it's kinda pointless to discuss whether you need infused armor. You need infusion exactly as much as you need armor, weapons, runes and weapon mods. You can play entire game without those, as long as you play smart. Hell, 55s farm UW mobs with lowest armor and yule cap. But it makes it so much easier, not just on you, but the rest of the group. Especially monks your group will notice that something is wrong. Just like if a tank brings 65 armor or something. And infusion run is one of the simpler things in game, and one of more populated, so it's absolutely no excuse not to do it when considering joining a group. Everyone and everyone after the infusion mission should have their full armor infused.

Jul 15, 2006, 04:23 PM // 16:23	#27
infusco Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Canada Guild: Stupid Tag For You Profession: R/W	Sure you can fight a full group of Mursaat with an un-infused party. You can also jump off a cliff and try and get the trees to break your fall. The odds of the surviving the former are just shy of the that of surviving the latter. I recommend neither.

Jul 15, 2006, 04:33 PM // 16:33	#28
Stockholm Desert Nomad Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Censored Guild: Censored Profession: R/	Bah low level was run to S.Shivers and without doing Desert he can't get in to the Infusion mission yet.

Jul 15, 2006, 07:02 PM // 19:02	#32
majoho Forge Runner Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Denmark	I could ask you the same thing.

Jul 16, 2006, 12:59 AM // 00:59	#37
Mesmer in Need Forge Runner Join Date: Mar 2006 Guild: [ToA]	oh well deal. I was just being funny