Gorebrex · Jul 14, 2006, 11:23 PM // 23:23

If youre careful, and dont treat them like normal mobs, but are properly prepared for what theyre capable of, I dont think infusion is "necessary", but Im sure it helps a hell of alot. This is from begining of Ice Caves
http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/4912/mskrtgw0679qc.jpg

Ventius Hozza · Jul 14, 2006, 11:29 PM // 23:29

There's only about 3 mursaat there... and you only just got out the gate...and there's no telling if you got your armor infused beforehand or not. So... why is this so amazing? I think more people than not know that mursaat aren't as good as they are made out to be vs uninfused armor so cmon, give all the forum-spamming a break.

Former Ruling · Jul 14, 2006, 11:46 PM // 23:46

Quote:

mursaat aren't as good as they are made out to be vs uninfused armor

Ok, name soemthing else that can do 100dmg per second, and cause -10 degen.

In the picture, you had minions up, and of course the mursaat targeted them for attack (and thus uping up their S.Agonys)

Rathcail · Jul 14, 2006, 11:50 PM // 23:50

First time ever when I was in that mission, as a Me/N by the way, I of course attacked the mursaat with just me and the henchies. Half of us died but we did manage to kill off the mursaat.

Good times...

Matsumi · Jul 14, 2006, 11:53 PM // 23:53

I guess you don't really need to unless this happens...

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Spectral_Agony

Mournblade · Jul 15, 2006, 12:01 AM // 00:01

/golfclap for killing some stray mursaat mobs. Now go fight a meaningful battle against them and see how you fare.

LamerFlamer · Jul 15, 2006, 12:05 AM // 00:05

Tip, don't try to do ring of fire with uninfused armor as a warrior. It is PAINFUL.

Gorebrex · Jul 15, 2006, 12:11 AM // 00:11

Actually, I found the screens I wanted to post(forgot I converted them

)
I REALLY like this one

Poor Mursaat...

BONUS!

Attacking Mursaat

And the result

Evilsod · Jul 15, 2006, 12:37 AM // 00:37

Ever attacked a group of Mursaat with Shelter and Union up? You guessed it, naff all happens and the Mursaat die easily.

Gorebrex · Jul 15, 2006, 03:34 AM // 03:34

Nope, havent even heard of those 2, will look them up.

VGJustice · Jul 15, 2006, 04:20 AM // 04:20

I remember doing THK with only my head peice infused as a Monk. I survived 2 shots of S. Agony before the third one did me in. And, if I remember correctly, the seer would only infuse one peice of armor at a time at first, and that was later updated so that he'd infuse your whole set.

So, I guess what I'm saying is "Yes, you can fight and win against the Mursaat without being infused, but it will cost you dearly."

Faer · Jul 15, 2006, 04:37 AM // 04:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mournblade

/golfclap for killing some stray mursaat mobs. Now go fight a meaningful battle against them and see how you fare.

Does clearing Abaddon's Mouth with two Warriors and a Monk count for anything? (Only three of us because we didn't think we'd have to clear the mission to map out the spots we needed).

I mistakenly went into the mission without any infused armor handy... And I was a Warrior, "all up in thier business". Yes it's rough, but if you're prepared, it isn't that bad.

Note: before the "Well you had a Monk!" stuff starts... Do you really think a single protection Monk is going to keep two Warriors alive when one isn't infused? Of course not. He's going to focus on the one he thinks is the smart one (the infused W/Mo) rather than the idiot (non-infused W/N). I spammed Healing Signet like crazy in that mission...

quanzong · Jul 15, 2006, 05:08 AM // 05:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rathcail

First time ever when I was in that mission, as a Me/N by the way, I of course attacked the mursaat with just me and the henchies. Half of us died but we did manage to kill off the mursaat.

Good times...

emm 3 vs 8 and half you died
I think if it was 3 vs 6 all of you would have died.

yes if you will need infused, if 7/8 is infused, not really big deal then, just stay away from them, if your a warrior, good luck surviving.

Rathcail · Jul 15, 2006, 05:16 AM // 05:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by quanzong

emm 3 vs 8 and half you died
I think if it was 3 vs 6 all of you would have died.

yes if you will need infused, if 7/8 is infused, not really big deal then, just stay away from them, if your a warrior, good luck surviving.

Oh sure, my post didn't actually have a point in it. Was just reminded of my first experience with the mursaat while reading this thread.

Gorebrex · Jul 15, 2006, 11:29 AM // 11:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mournblade

/golfclap for killing some stray mursaat mobs. Now go fight a meaningful battle against them and see how you fare.

1st, whats your definition of "meaningful? Attacking a sizeable group, maybe 5-6 of them, all at once? Sorry, Im too smart to do that, if, #1, I dont have infused armor, #2, IM WITH HENCHIES. So, as I said, "if youre careful", it can be done. As to them being a "stray" group, take a look at last pic, especially minimap, and the area party is at. I wouldve probably succeded 1st time through, but Stephan "I need more aggro" Henchman decides to run around the corner, past Evennias cage, and pick a fight with about 8 mobs, before we recovered fully from last fight.

majoho · Jul 15, 2006, 11:33 AM // 11:33

So basically the OP ask a question that he thinks he already "knows" the answer to in his opinion (he doesn't acknowledge any of the replies).

So I'm asking myself, what is the point with this thread?

Gorebrex · Jul 15, 2006, 01:05 PM // 13:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by majoho

So basically the OP ask a question that he thinks he already "knows" the answer to in his opinion (he doesn't acknowledge any of the replies).

So I'm asking myself, what is the point with this thread?

How the hell you come up with that? I guess these arent responses.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evilsod

Ever attacked a group of Mursaat with Shelter and Union up? You guessed it, naff all happens and the Mursaat die easily.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gorebrex

Nope, havent even heard of those 2, will look them up.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mournblade

/golfclap for killing some stray mursaat mobs. Now go fight a meaningful battle against them and see how you fare.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gorebrex

1st, whats your definition of "meaningful? Attacking a sizeable group, maybe 5-6 of them, all at once? Sorry, Im too smart to do that, if, #1, I dont have infused armor, #2, IM WITH HENCHIES. So, as I said, "if youre careful", it can be done. As to them being a "stray" group, take a look at last pic, especially minimap, and the area party is at. I wouldve probably succeded 1st time through, but Stephan "I need more aggro" Henchman decides to run around the corner, past Evennias cage, and pick a fight with about 8 mobs, before we recovered fully from last fight.

Im aking for(and recieving) opinions on whether or not infused armor vs Mursaat is a "necessity", and no, I dont believe it is(as stated in original post), and hope to help people find a way to effectively fight Mursaat if theyre not infused.

Hand of Ruin · Jul 15, 2006, 01:13 PM // 13:13

Why would you even go to the trouble of doing it without infused? Does that make you special or something...

Niet Nart · Jul 15, 2006, 01:16 PM // 13:16

theres no reason to not infuse your armor... seriously. unless you want to do it just for kicks. i think this poster likes making up random threads for things he can answer himself

Caelus The Fallen · Jul 15, 2006, 01:18 PM // 13:18

The fact is, eventually you will be forced to confront Mursaat in larger groups, no matter how "smart" you are. That said, by the time this is an issue, all the henchmen become infused, so you wont be able to claim that you faced them with an unifused team anyway.

Jul 14, 2006, 11:23 PM // 23:23	#1
Gorebrex Jungle Guide Join Date: Jan 2006	Do you REALLY need infused armor to take on Mursaat? If youre careful, and dont treat them like normal mobs, but are properly prepared for what theyre capable of, I dont think infusion is "necessary", but Im sure it helps a hell of alot. This is from begining of Ice Caves http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/4912/mskrtgw0679qc.jpg

Jul 14, 2006, 11:29 PM // 23:29	#2
Ventius Hozza Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London, UK Guild: Powerpuff Boys [PUFF] Profession: R/	There's only about 3 mursaat there... and you only just got out the gate...and there's no telling if you got your armor infused beforehand or not. So... why is this so amazing? I think more people than not know that mursaat aren't as good as they are made out to be vs uninfused armor so cmon, give all the forum-spamming a break.

Jul 14, 2006, 11:50 PM // 23:50	#4
Rathcail Jungle Guide Join Date: Jan 2006	First time ever when I was in that mission, as a Me/N by the way, I of course attacked the mursaat with just me and the henchies. Half of us died but we did manage to kill off the mursaat. Good times...

Jul 14, 2006, 11:53 PM // 23:53	#5
Matsumi Jungle Guide Join Date: Mar 2006	I guess you don't really need to unless this happens... http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Spectral_Agony

Jul 15, 2006, 12:01 AM // 00:01	#6
Mournblade Furnace Stoker Join Date: May 2005 Location: Houston, Texas Guild: Dawn Treaders [DAWN] Profession: W/Mo	/golfclap for killing some stray mursaat mobs. Now go fight a meaningful battle against them and see how you fare.

Jul 15, 2006, 12:05 AM // 00:05	#7
LamerFlamer Academy Page Join Date: Feb 2006 Guild: The Order of The Green Flame	Tip, don't try to do ring of fire with uninfused armor as a warrior. It is PAINFUL.

Jul 15, 2006, 12:11 AM // 00:11	#8
Gorebrex Jungle Guide Join Date: Jan 2006	Actually, I found the screens I wanted to post(forgot I converted them ) I REALLY like this one Poor Mursaat... BONUS! Attacking Mursaat And the result

Jul 15, 2006, 12:37 AM // 00:37	#9
Evilsod Banned Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: England Guild: Lievs Death Squad [LDS]	Ever attacked a group of Mursaat with Shelter and Union up? You guessed it, naff all happens and the Mursaat die easily.

Jul 15, 2006, 03:34 AM // 03:34	#10
Gorebrex Jungle Guide Join Date: Jan 2006	Nope, havent even heard of those 2, will look them up.

Jul 15, 2006, 04:20 AM // 04:20	#11
VGJustice Desert Nomad Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Tyria, cappin' ur bosses Guild: Boston Guild [BG] Profession: R/W	I remember doing THK with only my head peice infused as a Monk. I survived 2 shots of S. Agony before the third one did me in. And, if I remember correctly, the seer would only infuse one peice of armor at a time at first, and that was later updated so that he'd infuse your whole set. So, I guess what I'm saying is "Yes, you can fight and win against the Mursaat without being infused, but it will cost you dearly."

Jul 15, 2006, 11:33 AM // 11:33	#16
majoho Forge Runner Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Denmark	So basically the OP ask a question that he thinks he already "knows" the answer to in his opinion (he doesn't acknowledge any of the replies). So I'm asking myself, what is the point with this thread?

Jul 15, 2006, 01:13 PM // 13:13	#18
Hand of Ruin Banned Join Date: Jul 2006	Why would you even go to the trouble of doing it without infused? Does that make you special or something...

Jul 15, 2006, 01:16 PM // 13:16	#19
Niet Nart Academy Page Join Date: May 2006 Location: Las Vegas Guild: Running Droks Pay At Snake Dance [TwoK] Profession: W/	theres no reason to not infuse your armor... seriously. unless you want to do it just for kicks. i think this poster likes making up random threads for things he can answer himself

Jul 15, 2006, 01:18 PM // 13:18	#20
Caelus The Fallen Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005 Location: Glasgow Guild: Voice of the Darkness Profession: E/Mo	The fact is, eventually you will be forced to confront Mursaat in larger groups, no matter how "smart" you are. That said, by the time this is an issue, all the henchmen become infused, so you wont be able to claim that you faced them with an unifused team anyway.