Weird effect stacking - Guild Wars Forums

shardfenix · Jul 19, 2006, 04:39 AM // 04:39

Prot spirit with shielding hands:
Reduces shielding hands damage first, then prot spirits reduced damage down to 10%.

Shelter with Union:
Reduced damage down to 10% with shelter, then reduces 15 damage with union.

Why are the same abilities reversed on different skills?

I was just curious

Rent · Jul 19, 2006, 04:43 AM // 04:43

It depends on the order in which they are cast. Oldest triggers first.

Phoenix Arrows · Jul 19, 2006, 04:51 AM // 04:51

Actually, I am pretty sure that Prot Spirit always triggers last. Therefore, you can't use anything to reduce the damage further. If you have both Spirit Bond and Prot Spirit on you, regardless of order, Spirit Bond triggers if damage = 81 or more.

floppinghog · Jul 19, 2006, 05:06 AM // 05:06

well those target a signal ally, spirits work for everything, so its fair as i take it.

Kai Nui · Jul 19, 2006, 05:33 AM // 05:33

I believe once I soloed Hydras with a Mantra of Flame and it came after prot spirit. Maybe because it's a stance? I don't know.

shardfenix · Jul 19, 2006, 07:33 AM // 07:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rent

It depends on the order in which they are cast. Oldest triggers first.

No. It doesn't.

I know other effects stack the way they do, I just noticed this the other day and it seemed strange to me that 2 pairs of skills with the exact same effects would stack differently. I was wondering if arenanet made it that way for a reason, by mistake, or they flipped a coin on it or whatever.

Big_L · Jul 19, 2006, 12:23 PM // 12:23

umm...its been my understanding that anything you are under the effect of stacks in the order it was applied.

how did you test this? feel free to show some data and prove me wrong.

Jul 19, 2006, 04:39 AM // 04:39	#1
shardfenix Banned Join Date: Dec 2005 Guild: Il Power Overwhelming Il [HaX]	Weird effect stacking Prot spirit with shielding hands: Reduces shielding hands damage first, then prot spirits reduced damage down to 10%. Shelter with Union: Reduced damage down to 10% with shelter, then reduces 15 damage with union. Why are the same abilities reversed on different skills? I was just curious

Jul 19, 2006, 04:43 AM // 04:43	#2
Rent Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Feb 2006 Guild: Darkness Within Profession: Mo/Me	It depends on the order in which they are cast. Oldest triggers first.

Jul 19, 2006, 04:51 AM // 04:51	#3
Phoenix Arrows Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: With many other ugly people Guild: We Are All Pretty [ugly] Profession: R/	Actually, I am pretty sure that Prot Spirit always triggers last. Therefore, you can't use anything to reduce the damage further. If you have both Spirit Bond and Prot Spirit on you, regardless of order, Spirit Bond triggers if damage = 81 or more.

Jul 19, 2006, 05:06 AM // 05:06	#4
floppinghog Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: pit of brimstone Guild: Squad Six Six Six [ssss] Profession: A/Me	well those target a signal ally, spirits work for everything, so its fair as i take it.

Jul 19, 2006, 05:33 AM // 05:33	#5
Kai Nui Desert Nomad Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Behind you with a knife Guild: Celebrity Gangsters [FamE] Profession: Me/	I believe once I soloed Hydras with a Mantra of Flame and it came after prot spirit. Maybe because it's a stance? I don't know.

Jul 19, 2006, 12:23 PM // 12:23	#7
Big_L Academy Page Join Date: Aug 2005 Guild: Spectral Agony [sA]	umm...its been my understanding that anything you are under the effect of stacks in the order it was applied. how did you test this? feel free to show some data and prove me wrong.