Allied with Am Fah :/ Can't cap them. - Guild Wars Forums

TheMosesPHD · Jul 31, 2006, 07:23 PM // 19:23

Hey I decided to go around capping all the elites for my chars, and I've come to trying to get Quivering Blade for my warrior. I can't do this however because I'm allied with the Am Fah for some reason. It's always the Am Fah, never the Jade Brotherhood, and I can never figure out what triggers it, but after a while all of my characters somehow become allied with Am Fah. I don't know what quest sets it off, but I've done all Kaineng quests with my monk, so none are active anymore, yet she's still allied with the Am Fah as well. I've never been bothered by this, until now when I need to cap Quivering Blade.

If you don't know, by allied with the Am Fah I mean they're all green NPCs for me, and none of the pop-ups show up for me. In addition this means the only boss that has Quivering Blade doesn't spawn as well. I have a few quests still on my warrior, but if anyone knows I'd like to know which one I should drop. It's quite tedious running here and there and all around gathering the quests, so I don't want to have to drop all of them unneccisarily.

Anyone have any insight?

Arknow · Jul 31, 2006, 07:29 PM // 19:29

did you drink from the challice? i stoped that line of quest's on all toons so i have mostley free run of byway, go back to brother Tosai(sp) and see if he can help

Xenrath · Jul 31, 2006, 07:30 PM // 19:30

There was one quest where you pick up a poisoned chalice or some such thing, at which point you get the option to drink it or refuse. If you don't choose either (just escape out of the options/walk away) the Am Fah remain as allies.

It's possibly that one? I can't remember the name of the quest or how it progresses from that point on.

grikdog · Jul 31, 2006, 07:34 PM // 19:34

I think once you complete either of the quests DRINK FROM THE CHALICE OF CORRUPTION or REFUSE TO DRINK FROM THE CHALICE OF CORRUPTION the AmFah turn on you.

TheMosesPHD · Jul 31, 2006, 07:36 PM // 19:36

Is that the one where you become poisoned in town? If it is I've never found that quest for any of my characters.

Oh, and I have the quest "Seek out Brother Tosai", so perhaps that's it.

Vahn Roi · Jul 31, 2006, 07:41 PM // 19:41

Seek Out Brother Tosai will take you where you need to go. Once you reach him, refuse to drink from the calice of corruption and from that point on all Am Fah will become hostile towards your toon.

TheMosesPHD · Jul 31, 2006, 07:43 PM // 19:43

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Originally Posted by Vahn Roi

Seek Out Brother Tosai will take you where you need to go. Once you reach him, refuse to drink from the calice of corruption and from that point on all Am Fah will become hostile towards your toon.

So if I drop the Seek out Brother Tosai quest will it make them hostile towards me, then I can reaquire the quest and make them allied after I've capped the elite?

Swinging Fists · Jul 31, 2006, 07:43 PM // 19:43

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/The_Search_for_a_Cure

This is the quest that makes the Am Fah your friends. I do it with all my new characters to have free run of the area.

TheMosesPHD · Jul 31, 2006, 07:50 PM // 19:50

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Originally Posted by Swinging Fists

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/The_Search_for_a_Cure

This is the quest that makes the Am Fah your friends. I do it with all my new characters to have free run of the area.

Well I've already done that quest I believe, but hte problem is that I need the Am Fah to be my enemies, just once, so I can cap Quivering, then I'd like them as my allies so I have the clear run.

Will going out with someone who is hostile with the Am Fah make them all hostile? Or will my allied with Am Fah status override their hostile with Am Fah status?

EDIT2: bah just tested it. didn't work :/

EDIT: on that note, do any of you have chars that are hostile towards Am Fah? I can't find someone in the Marketplace willing to zone outside with me.

TheMosesPHD · Jul 31, 2006, 08:00 PM // 20:00

So if I do have to end up declining the chalice and becoming enemies with the Am Fah, is there a way to become allied with the Jade Brotherhood? Those guys are more troublesome than Am Fah.

fallot · Jul 31, 2006, 08:07 PM // 20:07

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Originally Posted by TheMosesPHD

So if I drop the Seek out Brother Tosai quest will it make them hostile towards me, then I can reaquire the quest and make them allied after I've capped the elite?

That's what I did.

TheMosesPHD · Jul 31, 2006, 08:11 PM // 20:11

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Originally Posted by fallot

That's what I did.

Well that's what I tried but even after I dropped the quest I was still allied with Am Fah.

I guess I'll just wait until I have all the rest of the Kaineng quests done, then refuse the chalice and cap Quivering

Dawn Stormborn · Jul 31, 2006, 08:15 PM // 20:15

What quests do you have active? I had this issue on my warrior. I just finished the Seek out Brother Tosai quest - refused to drink, killed a few Am Fah right there, got the reward, then went back and capped Sun who did appear.

fallot · Jul 31, 2006, 08:18 PM // 20:18

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Originally Posted by TheMosesPHD

Well that's what I tried but even after I dropped the quest I was still allied with Am Fah.

That can't be right. I've done this. It worked. Are you absolutely certain they are still allied to you ?

TheMosesPHD · Jul 31, 2006, 08:38 PM // 20:38

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Originally Posted by fallot

That can't be right. I've done this. It worked. Are you absolutely certain they are still allied to you ?

Ya, I dropped Seek out Brother Tosai and they were still all green. Lemme list off the Kaineng quests I have on right now. And none of my primaries are Kaineng quests.

The Challange
Raze the Roost
Feed The Hungry
Little Lost Bear
Medical Emergency
Naga Oil
Passing The Buck
The Drunken Master
The Missing Corpses
The Plot Thickens
The Shadow Blades
The Xunlai Agent

EDIT: Well I went down to where Brother Tosai was even though I had dropped the quest and he was still there. When I talked to him he rambled about the Chalice. Is it normal for him to always be there, even if I don't have the quest?

Livingston · Jul 31, 2006, 09:26 PM // 21:26

Dropping the Seek out Tosai quest will not turn them against you as it is the quest before that one that makes them your allies.

As far as I know, you won't be able to make them friendly again once you turn them hostile from your point in the game. And no you can't become allies with the Jade Brotherhood.

Livingston

Markaedw · Aug 01, 2006, 01:38 AM // 01:38

You can also drink, at that point Tosai, wants you to follow him in the undercity where he sends waves of afflicted at you. So you have waves and a constant -2 degen, if you survive then the am-pha also become hostile, but the reward is the same as not drinking so there really is no point.

They will not become hostile until you drink or don't. You might as well wait untill you are ready to pick a side, the game is so much easier when you don't have am-pha jumping you every few steps in the bazaar zone.

Jul 31, 2006, 07:23 PM // 19:23	#1
TheMosesPHD Jungle Guide Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Oregon Guild: Mo Mo Patty Blinks [MoMo] Profession: R/	Allied with Am Fah :/ Can't cap them. Hey I decided to go around capping all the elites for my chars, and I've come to trying to get Quivering Blade for my warrior. I can't do this however because I'm allied with the Am Fah for some reason. It's always the Am Fah, never the Jade Brotherhood, and I can never figure out what triggers it, but after a while all of my characters somehow become allied with Am Fah. I don't know what quest sets it off, but I've done all Kaineng quests with my monk, so none are active anymore, yet she's still allied with the Am Fah as well. I've never been bothered by this, until now when I need to cap Quivering Blade. If you don't know, by allied with the Am Fah I mean they're all green NPCs for me, and none of the pop-ups show up for me. In addition this means the only boss that has Quivering Blade doesn't spawn as well. I have a few quests still on my warrior, but if anyone knows I'd like to know which one I should drop. It's quite tedious running here and there and all around gathering the quests, so I don't want to have to drop all of them unneccisarily. Anyone have any insight?

Aug 01, 2006, 01:38 AM // 01:38	#17
Markaedw Desert Nomad Join Date: Nov 2005 Profession: N/	You can also drink, at that point Tosai, wants you to follow him in the undercity where he sends waves of afflicted at you. So you have waves and a constant -2 degen, if you survive then the am-pha also become hostile, but the reward is the same as not drinking so there really is no point. They will not become hostile until you drink or don't. You might as well wait untill you are ready to pick a side, the game is so much easier when you don't have am-pha jumping you every few steps in the bazaar zone. Last edited by Markaedw; Aug 01, 2006 at 01:45 AM // 01:45..

Jul 31, 2006, 07:29 PM // 19:29	#2
Arknow Academy Page Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Middle of Space, Corner of No and Where Guild: Ell EFF GEE Profession: R/	did you drink from the challice? i stoped that line of quest's on all toons so i have mostley free run of byway, go back to brother Tosai(sp) and see if he can help

Jul 31, 2006, 07:30 PM // 19:30	#3
Xenrath Desert Nomad Join Date: Oct 2005 Profession: W/Me	There was one quest where you pick up a poisoned chalice or some such thing, at which point you get the option to drink it or refuse. If you don't choose either (just escape out of the options/walk away) the Am Fah remain as allies. It's possibly that one? I can't remember the name of the quest or how it progresses from that point on.

Jul 31, 2006, 07:34 PM // 19:34	#4
grikdog Academy Page Join Date: Dec 2005	I think once you complete either of the quests DRINK FROM THE CHALICE OF CORRUPTION or REFUSE TO DRINK FROM THE CHALICE OF CORRUPTION the AmFah turn on you.

Jul 31, 2006, 07:36 PM // 19:36	#5
TheMosesPHD Jungle Guide Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Oregon Guild: Mo Mo Patty Blinks [MoMo] Profession: R/	Is that the one where you become poisoned in town? If it is I've never found that quest for any of my characters. Oh, and I have the quest "Seek out Brother Tosai", so perhaps that's it.

Jul 31, 2006, 07:41 PM // 19:41	#6
Vahn Roi Forge Runner Join Date: Apr 2006 Guild: [HiDE]	Seek Out Brother Tosai will take you where you need to go. Once you reach him, refuse to drink from the calice of corruption and from that point on all Am Fah will become hostile towards your toon.

Jul 31, 2006, 07:43 PM // 19:43	#8
Swinging Fists Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Mar 2006 Profession: W/Mo	http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/The_Search_for_a_Cure This is the quest that makes the Am Fah your friends. I do it with all my new characters to have free run of the area.

Jul 31, 2006, 08:00 PM // 20:00	#10
TheMosesPHD Jungle Guide Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Oregon Guild: Mo Mo Patty Blinks [MoMo] Profession: R/	So if I do have to end up declining the chalice and becoming enemies with the Am Fah, is there a way to become allied with the Jade Brotherhood? Those guys are more troublesome than Am Fah.

Jul 31, 2006, 08:15 PM // 20:15	#13
Dawn Stormborn Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jun 2006	What quests do you have active? I had this issue on my warrior. I just finished the Seek out Brother Tosai quest - refused to drink, killed a few Am Fah right there, got the reward, then went back and capped Sun who did appear.

Jul 31, 2006, 09:26 PM // 21:26	#16
Livingston Jungle Guide Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The Edge of the World Guild: [L] [GET]	Dropping the Seek out Tosai quest will not turn them against you as it is the quest before that one that makes them your allies. As far as I know, you won't be able to make them friendly again once you turn them hostile from your point in the game. And no you can't become allies with the Jade Brotherhood. Livingston