Can quick-recharge ranger skills make bow speed irrelevant? - Guild Wars Forums

Mostly Harmless · Aug 10, 2006, 01:34 PM // 13:34

If you spam a quick-recharge skill like Quick Shot or Focussed Shot [1 and 2 sec recharge respectively] does this override the speed limitations of the bow you're using? If so, then it follows that a hornbow will be just as fast as a shortbow/flatbow when doing this.

milias · Aug 10, 2006, 01:42 PM // 13:42

Yup, that's how ranger spike works in PvP

fallot · Aug 10, 2006, 02:54 PM // 14:54

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Originally Posted by Mostly Harmless

If you spam a quick-recharge skill like Quick Shot or Focussed Shot [1 and 2 sec recharge respectively] does this override the speed limitations of the bow you're using? If so, then it follows that a hornbow will be just as fast as a shortbow/flatbow when doing this.

No it will not. However, using skills with a reduced activation time will. A Savage Shot after another attack skill (and/or Quick Shot, the description on that skill is iffy) from a Hornbow will be the same speed as that from a Shortbow. However, they will both fire Focused Shot followed by say... Power Shot at their own rates.

Dr Strangelove · Aug 10, 2006, 03:06 PM // 15:06

Focused shot will not override the speed, bow attacks that do not state a casting time will use the normal bow speed.

Quick shot, needling shot, smite, and all the interrupts have specific cast times, 1/2 second for an interrupt, 1 second for QS. Unfortunately, interrupts have a 1.5 second aftercast in which you cannot attack, ruining any chains.
You could, however, spam quick shot and needling shot back and forth with no downtime, giving you a 1 second attack with a hornbow which, if I did my math right, is 270% increased attack speed.

My typical quickshot build is dual shot + quickshot + needling shot + savage shot + kindle arrows + favorable winds, with savage shot ending any chains.

A curiosity build to look at is quickshot + needling shot + smite + savage shot. Smite work just like quickshot, but has a more restrictive energy cost. The bonus is that you get an insanely long chain going.

Mostly Harmless · Aug 10, 2006, 06:45 PM // 18:45

Thanks for the info - sort of suspected this might be the case from experimenting with Focused Shot and different bows. Won't ditch the shortbow then!

milias · Aug 10, 2006, 08:55 PM // 20:55

I would actually recommend using a Horn Bow. That's the most used bow type for ranger spike, the reason being that it has 10% inherent armor penetration, and this kind of setup offsets its slow fire rate.

Aug 10, 2006, 01:34 PM // 13:34	#1
Mostly Harmless Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Aug 2006	Can quick-recharge ranger skills make bow speed irrelevant? If you spam a quick-recharge skill like Quick Shot or Focussed Shot [1 and 2 sec recharge respectively] does this override the speed limitations of the bow you're using? If so, then it follows that a hornbow will be just as fast as a shortbow/flatbow when doing this.

Aug 10, 2006, 01:42 PM // 13:42	#2
milias Grotto Attendant Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Defected back to America Profession: Me/E	Yup, that's how ranger spike works in PvP

Aug 10, 2006, 03:06 PM // 15:06	#4
Dr Strangelove Furnace Stoker Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Wasting away again in Margaritaville Guild: [HOTR]	Focused shot will not override the speed, bow attacks that do not state a casting time will use the normal bow speed. Quick shot, needling shot, smite, and all the interrupts have specific cast times, 1/2 second for an interrupt, 1 second for QS. Unfortunately, interrupts have a 1.5 second aftercast in which you cannot attack, ruining any chains. You could, however, spam quick shot and needling shot back and forth with no downtime, giving you a 1 second attack with a hornbow which, if I did my math right, is 270% increased attack speed. My typical quickshot build is dual shot + quickshot + needling shot + savage shot + kindle arrows + favorable winds, with savage shot ending any chains. A curiosity build to look at is quickshot + needling shot + smite + savage shot. Smite work just like quickshot, but has a more restrictive energy cost. The bonus is that you get an insanely long chain going.

Aug 10, 2006, 06:45 PM // 18:45	#5
Mostly Harmless Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Aug 2006	Thanks for the info - sort of suspected this might be the case from experimenting with Focused Shot and different bows. Won't ditch the shortbow then!

Aug 10, 2006, 08:55 PM // 20:55	#6
milias Grotto Attendant Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Defected back to America Profession: Me/E	I would actually recommend using a Horn Bow. That's the most used bow type for ranger spike, the reason being that it has 10% inherent armor penetration, and this kind of setup offsets its slow fire rate.