whats the aniti farm code? - Guild Wars Forums

terminus guardian · Aug 11, 2006, 08:30 AM // 08:30

im sure there are a lot more threads like this but i dont have time to search. anyway, i was green farming with a friend and trying to find some sign of 1 but we got nothing. then he tells me about the anti farming code. this is the first time i heard of it, we have been trying to farm this area both alone and together and we havnt gotten anything. he said i could find out about it here so can anyone plz tell me about it?

majoho · Aug 11, 2006, 08:40 AM // 08:40

It's not anti farming (although people call it that) it's actually anti botting code.

Anti botting code happens if you do the exact same thing over and over and over..... again - by doing that you're acting like a bot.

But don't worry I think you will have to do A LOT of farming in the same area for it to trigger - at least personally I have not gotten the message even after farming the same place 3-4 hours a day for a week or so, LOL!

Btw. you will get a warning on screen telling you that drop rates will be lower if you continue, so you will know when you've overdone it.

(I'm bored and waiting for Nightfall, I don't actually need any money)

terminus guardian · Aug 11, 2006, 09:56 AM // 09:56

exactly drop rate is low i see ppl selling the item everywhere so obviously ppl r getting the it to drop, but i havent seen this green item drop once

Poison Ivy · Aug 11, 2006, 10:10 AM // 10:10

The best way to get it is to go to Elona's Reach at Chinese Bot rush hour, when you can see at least 30 Mo/Ws in the town, go farm for 5 runs or so and you should get it easily

shadou · Aug 11, 2006, 10:41 AM // 10:41

I believe it has something to do with time spent in the zone. i.e;

When I solo chkkr thousand tails (the ranger boss in drazach thicket) I skip all of the wardens around him and wait just for him, frag him, collect green loot then head back to town. This takes <5mins, usually <2mins (dependant on spawn).

After 2 -3 of this, he won't drop the green anymore.

To compare, when I solo darkroot entrop & the dude who drops the darkwish outside amatz basin, it takes >10min to clear the warden group, clear the other group, frag the boss, collect loot, clear the warden group aroun darkwish, kill darkwish. After completing that, I can re-zone, rinse and repeat and have not triggered the code so far. I got 6 darkroot's daggers in one day, all conesecutively - shame I can't sell em :P

All you need to do is hand in a quest and get the reward to nullify the antibot code, then wee, greens again.

Relambrien · Aug 11, 2006, 01:52 PM // 13:52

Just going to the same explorable area three times in a row or so triggers the code, which lessens your drops. However, the difference isn't very noticeable unless you repeat it many more times. The best thing to do to eliminate the code is to go to a couple different explorable areas before heading back to the one you're farming in. This should get rid of the code and restore your drops to normal.

Mr Crapsicle · Aug 11, 2006, 06:07 PM // 18:07

I think that there's a little bit more to the "anti farming code" than just saying that repeating the same task repeatedly will trigger it. I also believe that your account can be tagged so that you will globally see a reduction in green drops.

Here's my case in point - I know someone who used to farm a lot of greens and do so very succesfully. They were very careful to avoid any anti farming code and never repetively farmed any one boss or area. He always mixed in missions and quests, changed charachters out, never left an area after killing a boss by porting back to a city or outpost, never killed the same boss more than twice in a run, etc. He averaged 4-6 greens a day. Then one day his account was mistakenly banned (this ocurred at the same time many folks were mistakenly banned). After his account was restored things changed dramamtically for him. All of the farming spots stopped bearing fruit. Saying all of them is not an exageration; weeks went by without seeing a single drop while soloing. All two and three man operations that netted greens found the drop going to someone else as well.

I suppose you could say he just got unlucky. I'm more inclined to believe that there are some farily complicated algorithms in place related to farming code and that the accidental mass banning was a result of too stringent of an argument being implemented or simply a dragnet.

Either way, he was pretty bummed about the whole thing. He no longer farms greens, just shows guildies how to do it. Sure, it took some fun out of the game for him and changed the way he felt about some of the things Anet does, but its not kept him from enjoying playing GW.

terminus guardian · Aug 11, 2006, 06:15 PM // 18:15

so this activates even if you never get the green items?

Timmy Shinobi · Aug 11, 2006, 06:21 PM // 18:21

I would be too I mean the joy of having killing a boss and getting his green (reward) pretty much boosts my ego of having to solo him. Also, you can't really blame Anet for doing something about it. They just want to prevent bots from getting all the items in the whole gw economy. If there were not bots then reall players would have more loots. I just hope that Anet devises a better approach on detecting and banning bots. Its sad, people who buys the game play the game. People that uses bots to play the game, I just dont get. Why buy the game and let a robot play for you? Takes away the fun in the game and in process you are screwing other players who plays for fun.

gabrial heart · Aug 11, 2006, 06:42 PM // 18:42

I'm pretty sure the drop rate for anything is account based. Take FOW or UW. Everytime i go down with a n00b or n00g group the drops are awesome (even going to me often times) But if i get an experienced guild group we see crapola. The first couple times i solo'd the spiders for shards I would not leave FOW without at least 4+ shards in my inventory, now I'm lucky to get one. Not sure how any of it works or if it's totally random now, but it's not good if you're hurting for cash. Damn skill capping <grumble>

tridge · Aug 11, 2006, 08:52 PM // 20:52

Thanks for the FYI guys... I had no idea about this. Are you all sure this is not hearsay, and acual fact from AN? Myths.....

gabrial heart · Aug 11, 2006, 09:06 PM // 21:06

Well a-net has said they have taken anti-botting measures and most likely would in some sense affect the average player. I have read any official word about the way a-net handles farmers, but i can tell you that at one point you could get mighty rich off of ecto and shard farming in one night. Now it's so limited that unless you're really going to put major time in, your just going to get by on gold. i'm sure a similar deal is going on with green farming as well.

eternal pho · Aug 11, 2006, 11:11 PM // 23:11

Switch around farming trolls, then minotaurs, and again. That way you can avoid the code.

Aug 11, 2006, 08:30 AM // 08:30	#1
terminus guardian Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jun 2006 Guild: Too Much Destruction Profession: W/P	whats the aniti farm code? im sure there are a lot more threads like this but i dont have time to search. anyway, i was green farming with a friend and trying to find some sign of 1 but we got nothing. then he tells me about the anti farming code. this is the first time i heard of it, we have been trying to farm this area both alone and together and we havnt gotten anything. he said i could find out about it here so can anyone plz tell me about it?

Aug 11, 2006, 08:40 AM // 08:40	#2
majoho Forge Runner Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Denmark	It's not anti farming (although people call it that) it's actually anti botting code. Anti botting code happens if you do the exact same thing over and over and over..... again - by doing that you're acting like a bot. But don't worry I think you will have to do A LOT of farming in the same area for it to trigger - at least personally I have not gotten the message even after farming the same place 3-4 hours a day for a week or so, LOL! Btw. you will get a warning on screen telling you that drop rates will be lower if you continue, so you will know when you've overdone it. (I'm bored and waiting for Nightfall, I don't actually need any money)

Aug 11, 2006, 09:56 AM // 09:56	#3
terminus guardian Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jun 2006 Guild: Too Much Destruction Profession: W/P	exactly drop rate is low i see ppl selling the item everywhere so obviously ppl r getting the it to drop, but i havent seen this green item drop once

Aug 11, 2006, 10:10 AM // 10:10	#4
Poison Ivy Forge Runner Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Toronto Guild: Hopping Profession: Mo/A	The best way to get it is to go to Elona's Reach at Chinese Bot rush hour, when you can see at least 30 Mo/Ws in the town, go farm for 5 runs or so and you should get it easily

Aug 11, 2006, 10:41 AM // 10:41	#5
shadou Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jul 2006 Guild: The Yakuza Mafia Profession: R/E	I believe it has something to do with time spent in the zone. i.e; When I solo chkkr thousand tails (the ranger boss in drazach thicket) I skip all of the wardens around him and wait just for him, frag him, collect green loot then head back to town. This takes <5mins, usually <2mins (dependant on spawn). After 2 -3 of this, he won't drop the green anymore. To compare, when I solo darkroot entrop & the dude who drops the darkwish outside amatz basin, it takes >10min to clear the warden group, clear the other group, frag the boss, collect loot, clear the warden group aroun darkwish, kill darkwish. After completing that, I can re-zone, rinse and repeat and have not triggered the code so far. I got 6 darkroot's daggers in one day, all conesecutively - shame I can't sell em :P All you need to do is hand in a quest and get the reward to nullify the antibot code, then wee, greens again.

Aug 11, 2006, 01:52 PM // 13:52	#6
Relambrien Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Delaware, USA Guild: Error Seven Operators [Call] Profession: W/	Just going to the same explorable area three times in a row or so triggers the code, which lessens your drops. However, the difference isn't very noticeable unless you repeat it many more times. The best thing to do to eliminate the code is to go to a couple different explorable areas before heading back to the one you're farming in. This should get rid of the code and restore your drops to normal.

Aug 11, 2006, 06:07 PM // 18:07	#7
Mr Crapsicle Academy Page Join Date: Sep 2005 Guild: Consortium of Evil Monkeys (CeM)	I think that there's a little bit more to the "anti farming code" than just saying that repeating the same task repeatedly will trigger it. I also believe that your account can be tagged so that you will globally see a reduction in green drops. Here's my case in point - I know someone who used to farm a lot of greens and do so very succesfully. They were very careful to avoid any anti farming code and never repetively farmed any one boss or area. He always mixed in missions and quests, changed charachters out, never left an area after killing a boss by porting back to a city or outpost, never killed the same boss more than twice in a run, etc. He averaged 4-6 greens a day. Then one day his account was mistakenly banned (this ocurred at the same time many folks were mistakenly banned). After his account was restored things changed dramamtically for him. All of the farming spots stopped bearing fruit. Saying all of them is not an exageration; weeks went by without seeing a single drop while soloing. All two and three man operations that netted greens found the drop going to someone else as well. I suppose you could say he just got unlucky. I'm more inclined to believe that there are some farily complicated algorithms in place related to farming code and that the accidental mass banning was a result of too stringent of an argument being implemented or simply a dragnet. Either way, he was pretty bummed about the whole thing. He no longer farms greens, just shows guildies how to do it. Sure, it took some fun out of the game for him and changed the way he felt about some of the things Anet does, but its not kept him from enjoying playing GW.

Aug 11, 2006, 06:15 PM // 18:15	#8
terminus guardian Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jun 2006 Guild: Too Much Destruction Profession: W/P	so this activates even if you never get the green items?

Aug 11, 2006, 06:21 PM // 18:21	#9
Timmy Shinobi Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jul 2006 Guild: OGF Ohio Geek Fest Profession: W/	I would be too I mean the joy of having killing a boss and getting his green (reward) pretty much boosts my ego of having to solo him. Also, you can't really blame Anet for doing something about it. They just want to prevent bots from getting all the items in the whole gw economy. If there were not bots then reall players would have more loots. I just hope that Anet devises a better approach on detecting and banning bots. Its sad, people who buys the game play the game. People that uses bots to play the game, I just dont get. Why buy the game and let a robot play for you? Takes away the fun in the game and in process you are screwing other players who plays for fun.

Aug 11, 2006, 06:42 PM // 18:42	#10
gabrial heart Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Las Vegas Guild: Beautiful Peoples Club [LIPO] Profession: Mo/Me	I'm pretty sure the drop rate for anything is account based. Take FOW or UW. Everytime i go down with a n00b or n00g group the drops are awesome (even going to me often times) But if i get an experienced guild group we see crapola. The first couple times i solo'd the spiders for shards I would not leave FOW without at least 4+ shards in my inventory, now I'm lucky to get one. Not sure how any of it works or if it's totally random now, but it's not good if you're hurting for cash. Damn skill capping <grumble>

Aug 11, 2006, 08:52 PM // 20:52	#11
tridge Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Michigan Guild: Elite of Elites Profession: Mo/R	Thanks for the FYI guys... I had no idea about this. Are you all sure this is not hearsay, and acual fact from AN? Myths.....

Aug 11, 2006, 09:06 PM // 21:06	#12
gabrial heart Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Las Vegas Guild: Beautiful Peoples Club [LIPO] Profession: Mo/Me	Well a-net has said they have taken anti-botting measures and most likely would in some sense affect the average player. I have read any official word about the way a-net handles farmers, but i can tell you that at one point you could get mighty rich off of ecto and shard farming in one night. Now it's so limited that unless you're really going to put major time in, your just going to get by on gold. i'm sure a similar deal is going on with green farming as well.

Aug 11, 2006, 11:11 PM // 23:11	#13
eternal pho Banned Join Date: Nov 2005 Guild: The Licious Fame Farmers {TLG} Profession: W/E	Switch around farming trolls, then minotaurs, and again. That way you can avoid the code.