Slashing VS Piercing Daggers - Guild Wars Forums

Gairoh · Aug 24, 2006, 06:14 AM // 06:14

I read thru some forums and it seems tht most ppl prefer slahing daggers than piercing ones due to some bonuses against piercing dmg...

but here's the thing, From somewhere i read about piercing damage daggers crits more often than the slashing one. Is tht true? Have any of the assassins out there notice anything??

ChildeOfMalkav · Aug 24, 2006, 06:17 AM // 06:17

I dont know why people insist on spreading false crappy rumours based on nothing but speculation but no, peircing daggers dont crit more than slashing ones.

Makkert · Aug 24, 2006, 06:21 AM // 06:21

What they may mean is that Necro's have access to 'vs piercing' armor...
Else I don't know...

-Loki- · Aug 24, 2006, 07:08 AM // 07:08

Most people prefer slashing to piercing because of Necro 'vs piercing' armour, and the popularity of Geoffers Bulwark.

Marth Reynolds · Aug 24, 2006, 07:32 AM // 07:32

Or Shields up +50 armor vs piercing dmg :P, makes sure some allies take lesser dmg from those kind of assasins but the +xx dmg will still go trough so i doubt wether it will make a big difference :/

Stupid Shizno · Aug 24, 2006, 07:43 AM // 07:43

i love the sai skin so meh, my sin stays piercing dmg :P

edited - spelling errors.

Arcador · Aug 24, 2006, 07:45 AM // 07:45

It got chance to block arrows and armor vs piercing. Btw I may be mistaken, so better check. Anyway, applying elemental dmg to the daggers will probably sidestep this thing.

RotteN · Aug 24, 2006, 07:59 AM // 07:59

pirecing damage has more counters than slashing damage (shields up, geoffer's bulwark, bonelace armor are a few that come to mind). However, simply using an elemental set when fighting warriors, necro's or teams with shields up will solve that one :P

Seef II · Aug 24, 2006, 08:15 AM // 08:15

For those that like Piercing dagger looks: mod your piercing daggers to elemental damage.

I always went for Slashing myself, because of the various counters already posted in this thread.

Scourgey · Aug 24, 2006, 10:13 AM // 10:13

Go for slashing daggers, for most builds dagger builds you want zealous mods so you don't really want to go elemental.

Most of the dagger damage comes from the +x damage from your dagger skills, and this ignores armour, so I don't see much point in switching to elemental unless you are unable to use your attack skills for whatever reason.

wilebill · Aug 24, 2006, 12:46 PM // 12:46

Over a long period of time, there is a small but noticeable advantage to slashing over piercing, but it is a small advantage, not enough to change the outcome of a combat either way.

Vermilion Okeanos · Aug 24, 2006, 03:00 PM // 15:00

It really shouldn't matter.

Assassin's bread and butter is their dual attack +dmg, which ignore armor anyway; that +dmg count for around 75% of your total damage.

milias · Aug 24, 2006, 04:30 PM // 16:30

Another suggestion would be to mod it with an elemental dagger tang. With the current nerfing of warrior physical damage reduction, you should be able to do more damage to them.

Mithie · Aug 24, 2006, 04:37 PM // 16:37

Keep both in your weapon slots so you can switch between them.

Cherno · Aug 24, 2006, 04:59 PM // 16:59

Holy crap, at least every other post on this thread is saying the same thing that someone else did two posts above them, lol.

So to summarize:
Slashing over piercing because there are more things out there with damage reduction versus piercing, and not so much vs slashing.

Putting an elemental mod on your weapon can get around that restriction if you want to keep using a piercing skin.

Doesn't matter either way because your dmg + from skills constitutes the majority of your dmg anyway, might as well stick with Zealous.

Does that about cover it all?

Aug 24, 2006, 06:14 AM // 06:14	#1
Gairoh Academy Page Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Tsumei village,Shing Jea Island, Profession: A/	Slashing VS Piercing Daggers I read thru some forums and it seems tht most ppl prefer slahing daggers than piercing ones due to some bonuses against piercing dmg... but here's the thing, From somewhere i read about piercing damage daggers crits more often than the slashing one. Is tht true? Have any of the assassins out there notice anything??

Aug 24, 2006, 07:43 AM // 07:43	#6
Stupid Shizno Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Madison, Wisconsin, USA Guild: [eF] Profession: Mo/	i love the sai skin so meh, my sin stays piercing dmg :P edited - spelling errors. Last edited by Stupid Shizno; Aug 24, 2006 at 07:48 AM // 07:48..

Aug 24, 2006, 10:13 AM // 10:13	#10
Scourgey Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Sep 2005	Go for slashing daggers, for most builds dagger builds you want zealous mods so you don't really want to go elemental. Most of the dagger damage comes from the +x damage from your dagger skills, and this ignores armour, so I don't see much point in switching to elemental unless you are unable to use your attack skills for whatever reason. Last edited by Scourgey; Aug 24, 2006 at 10:16 AM // 10:16..

Aug 24, 2006, 06:17 AM // 06:17	#2
ChildeOfMalkav Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Feb 2006	I dont know why people insist on spreading false crappy rumours based on nothing but speculation but no, peircing daggers dont crit more than slashing ones.

Aug 24, 2006, 06:21 AM // 06:21	#3
Makkert Black Beast of Aarrrrgghh Join Date: May 2005 Location: The Netherlands Guild: The Biggyverse [PLEB] // Servants of Fortuna [SoF]	What they may mean is that Necro's have access to 'vs piercing' armor... Else I don't know...

Aug 24, 2006, 07:08 AM // 07:08	#4
-Loki- Forge Runner Join Date: Oct 2005	Most people prefer slashing to piercing because of Necro 'vs piercing' armour, and the popularity of Geoffers Bulwark.

Aug 24, 2006, 07:32 AM // 07:32	#5
Marth Reynolds Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The Netherlands Guild: The Lore Enforcers Profession: Me/A	Or Shields up +50 armor vs piercing dmg :P, makes sure some allies take lesser dmg from those kind of assasins but the +xx dmg will still go trough so i doubt wether it will make a big difference :/

Aug 24, 2006, 07:45 AM // 07:45	#7
Arcador Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jul 2005 Guild: -- Profession: R/N	It got chance to block arrows and armor vs piercing. Btw I may be mistaken, so better check. Anyway, applying elemental dmg to the daggers will probably sidestep this thing.

Aug 24, 2006, 07:59 AM // 07:59	#8
RotteN Forge Runner Join Date: Jun 2005 Profession: W/	pirecing damage has more counters than slashing damage (shields up, geoffer's bulwark, bonelace armor are a few that come to mind). However, simply using an elemental set when fighting warriors, necro's or teams with shields up will solve that one :P

Aug 24, 2006, 08:15 AM // 08:15	#9
Seef II Desert Nomad Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: US Profession: R/Mo	For those that like Piercing dagger looks: mod your piercing daggers to elemental damage. I always went for Slashing myself, because of the various counters already posted in this thread.

Aug 24, 2006, 12:46 PM // 12:46	#11
wilebill Desert Nomad Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Mt Vernon, Ohio Guild: Band of the Hawk Profession: W/Mo	Over a long period of time, there is a small but noticeable advantage to slashing over piercing, but it is a small advantage, not enough to change the outcome of a combat either way.

Aug 24, 2006, 03:00 PM // 15:00	#12
Vermilion Okeanos Forge Runner Join Date: Feb 2005	It really shouldn't matter. Assassin's bread and butter is their dual attack +dmg, which ignore armor anyway; that +dmg count for around 75% of your total damage.

Aug 24, 2006, 04:30 PM // 16:30	#13
milias Grotto Attendant Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Defected back to America Profession: Me/E	Another suggestion would be to mod it with an elemental dagger tang. With the current nerfing of warrior physical damage reduction, you should be able to do more damage to them.

Aug 24, 2006, 04:37 PM // 16:37	#14
Mithie Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jul 2005 Guild: Rest En Pieces [RIP] Profession: Me/W	Keep both in your weapon slots so you can switch between them.

Aug 24, 2006, 04:59 PM // 16:59	#15
Cherno Forge Runner Join Date: Jan 2006 Guild: Stars of Destiny Profession: E/	Holy crap, at least every other post on this thread is saying the same thing that someone else did two posts above them, lol. So to summarize: Slashing over piercing because there are more things out there with damage reduction versus piercing, and not so much vs slashing. Putting an elemental mod on your weapon can get around that restriction if you want to keep using a piercing skin. Doesn't matter either way because your dmg + from skills constitutes the majority of your dmg anyway, might as well stick with Zealous. Does that about cover it all?