Salvage/ID Wait - Guild Wars Forums

Darth Marth · Sep 01, 2006, 10:21 PM // 22:21

There's something thats been bugging me for a long time now: why do we always have to wait 15 or so seconds after our last attack before we can ID or salvage items? I can't see any reason for making us wait the extra time, and attacking (not being attacked or casting offensive spells) is the only things that afects the wait. What is the rationale behind this?

EDIT: Loviatar, are you saying you never get the "You have fought too recently to do that message?"

Loviatar · Sep 01, 2006, 10:26 PM // 22:26

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Originally Posted by Darth Marth

There's something thats been bugging me for a long time now: why do we always have to wait 15 or so seconds after out last attack before we can DI or salvage items? I can't see any reason for making us wait the extra time, and attacking (not being attacked or casting offensive spells) is the only things that afects the wait. What is the rationale behind this?

you dont.

it is something on your end as i kill a mob and grab and salvage on the spot and ID anything interesting.

no wait ever even salvage in middle of attack if inventory is full

Whispering Siren · Sep 01, 2006, 10:28 PM // 22:28

Probably so impatient people are not IDing or salvaging mid battle and causing their team to die? Guess they figure you should finish fighting first and the coast should be clear before you start playing in your inventory.

Addone_Abaddon · Sep 01, 2006, 10:30 PM // 22:30

I get the same, I think it's to be more realistic, I mean, if that was real, you wouldn't sit and use tools on something right in the middle of a fight

Yanman.be · Sep 01, 2006, 10:38 PM // 22:38

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Originally Posted by Whispering Siren

Probably so impatient people are IDing or salvaging mid battle and causing their team to die? Guess they figure you should finish fighting first and the coast should be clear before you start playing in your inventory.

Heh, I run out of battle, wait it out, then id/salvage, so I'm letting my team down even more.

Angel Develin · Sep 01, 2006, 10:44 PM // 22:44

"Heh, I run out of battle, wait it out, then id/salvage, so I'm letting my team down even more."

^^lmao

DeanBB · Sep 01, 2006, 10:59 PM // 22:59

I agree, you wouldn't want someone who just got a gold sword (or whatever) drop to be playing with inventory in the middle of a fight, would you?

Hmmm, actually for some that might be an improvement in performance!

Kook~NBK~ · Sep 01, 2006, 11:43 PM // 23:43

Because it's really hard to use your ID and/or Salvage kits when your hands are busy using your bow, axe, staff, whatever. Think about it, first you have to open up your bag, dig through it to find the kit you want, then pull out whatever item it is you want to ID/Salvage. Not only that, it's very dangerous to use these kits because the chemicals used are not safe to use when lightning or fire is in the area - they may EXPLODE!!!!

That's why they won't let you use them during battle.

The delay AFTER the battle is to make you take the time to clean up your weapon - gotta get all the blood, guts and other things cleaned off or it may cause rust. Then you still gotta open your bags & etc. etc.

Loviatar · Sep 01, 2006, 11:55 PM // 23:55

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Originally Posted by Darth Marth

EDIT: Loviatar, are you saying you never get the "You have fought too recently to do that message?"

my major oopsie on this.

i was thinking PVE and going wt is happening with him.

i dont pvp so i have never gotten that message
sorry about that chief (maxwell smart)

Whispering Siren · Sep 02, 2006, 12:40 AM // 00:40

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Originally Posted by Loviatar

my major oopsie on this.

i was thinking PVE and going wt is happening with him.

i dont pvp so i have never gotten that message
sorry about that chief (maxwell smart)

hmm... i get this message about half the time in PvE (no clue about pvp). sometimes i can ID right away, sometimes I have to wait a few seconds. seems like a lot of others do too, so maybe Loviatar is the odd one out on this.

Darth Marth · Sep 02, 2006, 01:16 AM // 01:16

When would you be IDing in PvP anyway?

Loviatar · Sep 02, 2006, 01:22 AM // 01:22

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Originally Posted by Whispering Siren

hmm... i get this message about half the time in PvE (no clue about pvp). sometimes i can ID right away, sometimes I have to wait a few seconds. seems like a lot of others do too, so maybe Loviatar is the odd one out on this.

i think you are right about that as i have been getting ready for Nightfall by light farming an hour a day and i simply gather a mob (15-20) around me and blast them, pick up and ID anything on the spot and salvage before i move a step further and i have never seen that particular message

cagan · Sep 02, 2006, 01:38 AM // 01:38

Quite posibly the amount of time it takes you to pick up the goodies the large mob dropped .. you have been out of combat long enough for the message to not apply.

I don't think its 15 seconds, 10 maybe.

Haggard · Sep 02, 2006, 01:56 AM // 01:56

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Originally Posted by Loviatar

you dont.

it is something on your end as i kill a mob and grab and salvage on the spot and ID anything interesting.

no wait ever even salvage in middle of attack if inventory is full

No, I get it too.. It's while you're actually attacking, as in fighting with a weapon, so maybe you're thinking of when you're killing using SoJ or tanking?

Loviatar · Sep 02, 2006, 02:03 AM // 02:03

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Originally Posted by Haggard

No, I get it too.. It's while you're actually attacking, as in fighting with a weapon, so maybe you're thinking of when you're killing using SoJ or tanking?

no.

i nuke them so maybe it doesnt trip on simple casters.

i have picked up and ID a piece while the remains of the mob are still attacking.

possibly a weapon is needed as you suggest

Feminist Terrorist · Sep 02, 2006, 03:27 AM // 03:27

I get that on all my characters. It's quite annoying. I play mostly casters, too.

Haggard · Sep 02, 2006, 03:32 AM // 03:32

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Originally Posted by Loviatar

no.

i nuke them so maybe it doesnt trip on simple casters.

i have picked up and ID a piece while the remains of the mob are still attacking.

possibly a weapon is needed as you suggest

I said that you need to be attacking with a weapon, IE wanding them or bashing them with a sledgehammer. If you're just using spells then, no it won't come up. I can't beleive you've never had it though.

Shadowfox1125 · Sep 02, 2006, 06:26 AM // 06:26

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Originally Posted by Darth Marth

When would you be IDing in PvP anyway?

lol, maybe after you just beat HoH and you want to id something that dropped for you..?

G_MAGNUS · Sep 02, 2006, 06:37 AM // 06:37

The reason behind it is so that if you want to change/equip something from your inventory mid-battle, you won't do the mistake of salvaging it instead. It would suck if instead of equiping a different 15k armor piece or some tweaked out gold weapon, you salvaged it instead. Though it takes a double click to activate, I've seen it happen while out-of-battle, imagine all the rants if it could happen mid-battle.

Whispering Siren · Sep 02, 2006, 06:45 AM // 06:45

BTW, whoever said it's only from wanding or using a weapon is correct.... it doesn't activate the message if you are ONLY using spells. have to do the default attack for it delay your ID/salvage.

Sep 01, 2006, 10:21 PM // 22:21	#1
Darth Marth Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: USA Midwest Guild: Order of Celestial Guardians II [OCG] Profession: Me/Mo	Salvage/ID Wait There's something thats been bugging me for a long time now: why do we always have to wait 15 or so seconds after our last attack before we can ID or salvage items? I can't see any reason for making us wait the extra time, and attacking (not being attacked or casting offensive spells) is the only things that afects the wait. What is the rationale behind this? EDIT: Loviatar, are you saying you never get the "You have fought too recently to do that message?" Last edited by Darth Marth; Sep 01, 2006 at 10:30 PM // 22:30..

Sep 01, 2006, 10:28 PM // 22:28	#3
Whispering Siren Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Maryland	Probably so impatient people are not IDing or salvaging mid battle and causing their team to die? Guess they figure you should finish fighting first and the coast should be clear before you start playing in your inventory. Last edited by Whispering Siren; Sep 01, 2006 at 10:40 PM // 22:40..

Sep 01, 2006, 10:30 PM // 22:30	#4
Addone_Abaddon Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Jersey, Channel Islands Guild: Perfection Is Everything [PiE] Profession: W/	I get the same, I think it's to be more realistic, I mean, if that was real, you wouldn't sit and use tools on something right in the middle of a fight

Sep 01, 2006, 10:44 PM // 22:44	#6
Angel Develin Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Lions Arch Guild: Minions of Kronos Profession: N/Me	"Heh, I run out of battle, wait it out, then id/salvage, so I'm letting my team down even more." ^^lmao

Sep 01, 2006, 10:59 PM // 22:59	#7
DeanBB Forge Runner Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Arizona Guild: Wizardry Players Guild, http://4guildwars.7.forumer.com	I agree, you wouldn't want someone who just got a gold sword (or whatever) drop to be playing with inventory in the middle of a fight, would you? Hmmm, actually for some that might be an improvement in performance!

Sep 01, 2006, 11:43 PM // 23:43	#8
Kook~NBK~ Grotto Attendant Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: A little chalet outside Drok's Guild: Natural Born Killaz	Because it's really hard to use your ID and/or Salvage kits when your hands are busy using your bow, axe, staff, whatever. Think about it, first you have to open up your bag, dig through it to find the kit you want, then pull out whatever item it is you want to ID/Salvage. Not only that, it's very dangerous to use these kits because the chemicals used are not safe to use when lightning or fire is in the area - they may EXPLODE!!!! That's why they won't let you use them during battle. The delay AFTER the battle is to make you take the time to clean up your weapon - gotta get all the blood, guts and other things cleaned off or it may cause rust. Then you still gotta open your bags & etc. etc.

Sep 02, 2006, 01:16 AM // 01:16	#11
Darth Marth Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: USA Midwest Guild: Order of Celestial Guardians II [OCG] Profession: Me/Mo	When would you be IDing in PvP anyway?

Sep 02, 2006, 01:38 AM // 01:38	#13
cagan Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Aug 2005 Profession: Me/Mo	Quite posibly the amount of time it takes you to pick up the goodies the large mob dropped .. you have been out of combat long enough for the message to not apply. I don't think its 15 seconds, 10 maybe.

Sep 02, 2006, 03:27 AM // 03:27	#16
Feminist Terrorist Desert Nomad Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Oh Noes! The 'burbs!	I get that on all my characters. It's quite annoying. I play mostly casters, too.

Sep 02, 2006, 06:37 AM // 06:37	#19
G_MAGNUS Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Oct 2005 Guild: La Legion Del Dragon [LD] Profession: W/	The reason behind it is so that if you want to change/equip something from your inventory mid-battle, you won't do the mistake of salvaging it instead. It would suck if instead of equiping a different 15k armor piece or some tweaked out gold weapon, you salvaged it instead. Though it takes a double click to activate, I've seen it happen while out-of-battle, imagine all the rants if it could happen mid-battle.

Sep 02, 2006, 06:45 AM // 06:45	#20
Whispering Siren Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Maryland	BTW, whoever said it's only from wanding or using a weapon is correct.... it doesn't activate the message if you are ONLY using spells. have to do the default attack for it delay your ID/salvage.