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Spike · Sep 16, 2006, 10:48 PM // 22:48

Its says 12+ on my Factions box. Ok The female rit is bareng some skin. But its nothing more than you would see in any 12 rated movie or a teens tv show.

Str0b0 · Sep 16, 2006, 11:05 PM // 23:05

I honestly think it has less to do with fundamentalist conservative values so much as laziness. It sucks for the OP that his parents found the box art offensive but I do applaud them for actually stepping up and being parents.

I remember the anti naked dancing petition and I thought it was the most apallingly lazy thing I had ever seen. Unfortunately this sort of thing happens an awful lot in the gaming industry. Some parents seem to want corporations to do their job for them. It is the job of parents to protect their children from questionable or offensive materials just like the OP's parents did. I believe Anet has done everything they can to make the subject matter of this game as appropriate as they possibly could for the audience it was aimed at. It's not for children. It says so right on the box for crying out loud.

To the OP I say this; while it may suck that you are out in the cold for Guild Wars, you should thank your lucky stars that your parents are actually taking the time to do their job in a day and age when many parents expect the media and business to raise and morally educate their children.

/end soapbox session

Malice Black · Sep 16, 2006, 11:12 PM // 23:12

A parents job is to prepare the child for adulthood, wrapping a child up in cotton wool does not benefit them in any way. Children that are wrapped up normally end up as social rejects because they have had no real interaction with the real world.

There is a fine line between being a good parent and being a smothering parent.

TheMadKingGeorge · Sep 16, 2006, 11:25 PM // 23:25

i was playing 18 games whe ni was like 9 -11

mathijn · Sep 16, 2006, 11:26 PM // 23:26

the only naked things ingame are (P)imps!
shocking!

LifeInfusion · Sep 16, 2006, 11:37 PM // 23:37

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Originally Posted by TheMadKingGeorge

i was playing 18 games whe ni was like 9 -11

Me too...but it made me more mature than the idiots in school laughing and pulling each others shoe laces...

as for the OP, at least you don't get your sales people reading the whole dam CE box's descriptions on the back ALOUD when you get it.

Then the guy asked me what is it with the dances, when I clearly was buying it for the artbook and soundtrack.

Mr D J · Sep 16, 2006, 11:43 PM // 23:43

Wow... I just go to the store and buy my own games if I want to. How old are you so that your parents actually do that to you? I'd be really freaking out if my parents ever did that to me...

ALSO

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Originally Posted by The Admins Bane

A parents job is to prepare the child for adulthood, wrapping a child up in cotton wool does not benefit them in any way. Children that are wrapped up normally end up as social rejects because they have had no real interaction with the real world.

There is a fine line between being a good parent and being a smothering parent.

QFT, you're right. As always

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Former Ruling · Sep 16, 2006, 11:51 PM // 23:51

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Originally Posted by Eldin

Get a box without a woman on it and you will get the game - but look out for Pre-Searing Ascalon City. Lots of immature nude dancers there...

Oh, and here is a gallery of box art images, by the way. You must have shown your parents the wrong game or the box with the semi-naked Cynn on it (which, by the way, is the oldest box of all - it's unlikely you'd find it!).

That box was probably not sold anymore BECAUSE of that picture lol

Anyway, it was probably the Eve box..As you can see the side of her breast because her bra peice doesn't fit

Aman · Sep 17, 2006, 12:08 AM // 00:08

it's not my fault my parents are like that.
"does your parents wrap you up in cotton so you don't get hurt"

what the hell? why was that necessary? Your the one who is acting immature.

Str0b0 · Sep 17, 2006, 12:43 AM // 00:43

Well whether it's good parenting or bad parenting is immaterial to the point I was making which is that at least they did some parenting as opposed to the parents that basically say." Hey! ( insert game company here) why don't you stop it with ( insert whatever they find objectionable here) because our children shouldn't be exposed to it and we are too lazy to read a box or do a little research and say 'no you can't play that', you know take an interest in what our kids are doing. If you could just do the job for us by raping your product of all playability we would really appreciate it."

Remember the Hot Coffee controversy? Old lady makes a big stink because she bought her teenage grandson a game that says Mature right on the box and then expected it to be funtime at Disneyland. The worst thing is some of these people would rather die than allow their kids to see an R rated movie but they can't pay attention to the equally simple rating system the ESRB has established explicitly to help parents.

Malice Black · Sep 17, 2006, 12:48 AM // 00:48

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Originally Posted by Aman

it's not my fault my parents are like that.
"does your parents wrap you up in cotton so you don't get hurt"

what the hell? why was that necessary? Your the one who is acting immature.

Its nothing personal against you. I was just stating that over protectiveness benefits no one.

Spike · Sep 17, 2006, 12:50 AM // 00:50

You can see more of the woman in the green outfits (mermer?) breasts than of Eve's If there was one that I could see people geting offended over it would be the one with the woman all in white and with just a very thin strap accross her rather large breasts. See pic below.

http://www.guildwars.com/images/boxa...sale-large.jpg

Silver_Fang · Sep 17, 2006, 12:55 AM // 00:55

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Originally Posted by Spike

http://www.guildwars.com/images/boxa...sale-large.jpg

Best Box Art!

Malice Black · Sep 17, 2006, 01:00 AM // 01:00

See more breast watching the Fashion channel and thats on morning, day and night.

ok so i watch it once in a while..need new ideas for expanding my room sized wardrobe

The Herbalizer · Sep 17, 2006, 01:04 AM // 01:04

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Originally Posted by The Admins Bane

LOL wow, do your parents also wrap you up in cotton wool so you cant hurt yourself?

Religious ppl I bet

I was so tempted to go into an essay on my views but I chose not to as I dont know how gwg feel about people debating religious matters. Would be nice if current affairs debates etc would be allowed here as far as I know you cant mantion politics much =(

Tachyon · Sep 17, 2006, 01:22 AM // 01:22

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Originally Posted by Aman

it's not my fault my parents are like that.
"does your parents wrap you up in cotton so you don't get hurt"

what the hell? why was that necessary? Your the one who is acting immature.

Sorry, but I don't believe that you're over 13 which is the age limit to post on these fora (I think)! Nevertheless, you're one seriously disturbed individual if you think Guild Wars art is nudity!

Perhaps you could politely ask your parents to remove the horse crap from their wheels! You know what I mean?

Malice Black · Sep 17, 2006, 01:34 AM // 01:34

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Originally Posted by The Herbalizer

I was so tempted to go into an essay on my views but I chose not to as I dont know how gwg feel about people debating religious matters. Would be nice if current affairs debates etc would be allowed here as far as I know you cant mention politics much =(

Religion and politics are a nono because of the political shit going on these days.

B??x??44????1@$ · Sep 17, 2006, 01:38 AM // 01:38

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Originally Posted by The Herbalizer

I was so tempted to go into an essay on my views but I chose not to as I dont know how gwg feel about people debating religious matters. Would be nice if current affairs debates etc would be allowed here as far as I know you cant mantion politics much =(

No intent to be a smart arse here, but typically, 90% of everyone I know that is anal about things as insignificant as video game art, typically are religious. The other 10%, just over controlling/raised in the country where stuff like that wasn't common.

Ugh, in the early 1900's women were arrested on indecent exposure charges for wearing MORE than what you see women today wearing.

On top of that, I've seen worse on the cover to "17" or what ever that magazine is called. Heck, 12 year olds read it. Guess you better start reinforcing that the media is in charge at an early age.

Linksys · Sep 17, 2006, 01:54 AM // 01:54

Replying to the original post, GW has already sold a LOT. Both games and it will be the same with Nightfall.

If everything was blatantly conservative in terms of female character appearances and such, then maybe the sales would actually be down. I don't want Arenanet to be like the Church of Opus Dei.

Ondo · Sep 17, 2006, 02:01 AM // 02:01

WOW!!!
(I was going to write more but not going to talk about a closed thread)
Log out is a nice feature for those who cannot explain the goings on of in game play.

OP - I am a parent, not a very prudish one. If my children wanted to play I would allow them. My wife had issues at times when I was playing the game. I simply stop, and explain what was going on, or dicuss the issue and all is fine. Maybe instead of just showing the box to your parents, you could explain all the pros and cons of the game to your parents. You'll see people dressed in underwear as there are making better armor for themself, some of which will be dancing because they are happy that they finally got max armor (of course other reasons also). That you will meet and befriend numerous people from across the globe. So on and so on.....make a list sit down with them, show them Guildwars.com web site. Let them make a decision based on knowledge instead of the cover of one box. If you really want to play the game, do it with the knowledge that you haven't betrayed your parents trust.

Sep 16, 2006, 10:48 PM // 22:48	#41
Spike Jungle Guide Join Date: May 2005 Location: In front of my PC Guild: Kai Profession: E/Mo	Its says 12+ on my Factions box. Ok The female rit is bareng some skin. But its nothing more than you would see in any 12 rated movie or a teens tv show.

Sep 16, 2006, 11:05 PM // 23:05	#42
Str0b0 Desert Nomad Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: North Carolina Profession: N/Me	I honestly think it has less to do with fundamentalist conservative values so much as laziness. It sucks for the OP that his parents found the box art offensive but I do applaud them for actually stepping up and being parents. I remember the anti naked dancing petition and I thought it was the most apallingly lazy thing I had ever seen. Unfortunately this sort of thing happens an awful lot in the gaming industry. Some parents seem to want corporations to do their job for them. It is the job of parents to protect their children from questionable or offensive materials just like the OP's parents did. I believe Anet has done everything they can to make the subject matter of this game as appropriate as they possibly could for the audience it was aimed at. It's not for children. It says so right on the box for crying out loud. To the OP I say this; while it may suck that you are out in the cold for Guild Wars, you should thank your lucky stars that your parents are actually taking the time to do their job in a day and age when many parents expect the media and business to raise and morally educate their children. /end soapbox session

Sep 16, 2006, 11:12 PM // 23:12	#43
Malice Black Site Legend Join Date: Oct 2005	A parents job is to prepare the child for adulthood, wrapping a child up in cotton wool does not benefit them in any way. Children that are wrapped up normally end up as social rejects because they have had no real interaction with the real world. There is a fine line between being a good parent and being a smothering parent.

Sep 16, 2006, 11:25 PM // 23:25	#44
TheMadKingGeorge Banned Join Date: Dec 2005 Guild: None Profession: Mo/W	i was playing 18 games whe ni was like 9 -11

Sep 16, 2006, 11:26 PM // 23:26	#45
mathijn Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: holland Guild: [PIKY] Profession: R/	the only naked things ingame are (P)imps! shocking!

Sep 17, 2006, 12:08 AM // 00:08	#49
Aman Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: ... Guild: Warriors of Narsil Profession: R/Mo	it's not my fault my parents are like that. "does your parents wrap you up in cotton so you don't get hurt" what the hell? why was that necessary? Your the one who is acting immature.

Sep 17, 2006, 12:43 AM // 00:43	#50
Str0b0 Desert Nomad Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: North Carolina Profession: N/Me	Well whether it's good parenting or bad parenting is immaterial to the point I was making which is that at least they did some parenting as opposed to the parents that basically say." Hey! ( insert game company here) why don't you stop it with ( insert whatever they find objectionable here) because our children shouldn't be exposed to it and we are too lazy to read a box or do a little research and say 'no you can't play that', you know take an interest in what our kids are doing. If you could just do the job for us by raping your product of all playability we would really appreciate it." Remember the Hot Coffee controversy? Old lady makes a big stink because she bought her teenage grandson a game that says Mature right on the box and then expected it to be funtime at Disneyland. The worst thing is some of these people would rather die than allow their kids to see an R rated movie but they can't pay attention to the equally simple rating system the ESRB has established explicitly to help parents.

Sep 17, 2006, 12:50 AM // 00:50	#52
Spike Jungle Guide Join Date: May 2005 Location: In front of my PC Guild: Kai Profession: E/Mo	You can see more of the woman in the green outfits (mermer?) breasts than of Eve's If there was one that I could see people geting offended over it would be the one with the woman all in white and with just a very thin strap accross her rather large breasts. See pic below. http://www.guildwars.com/images/boxa...sale-large.jpg

Sep 17, 2006, 01:00 AM // 01:00	#54
Malice Black Site Legend Join Date: Oct 2005	See more breast watching the Fashion channel and thats on morning, day and night. ok so i watch it once in a while..need new ideas for expanding my room sized wardrobe

Sep 17, 2006, 01:54 AM // 01:54	#59
Linksys Jungle Guide Join Date: Apr 2006	Replying to the original post, GW has already sold a LOT. Both games and it will be the same with Nightfall. If everything was blatantly conservative in terms of female character appearances and such, then maybe the sales would actually be down. I don't want Arenanet to be like the Church of Opus Dei.

Sep 17, 2006, 02:01 AM // 02:01	#60
Ondo Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: USA Guild: Heavenly Shadows [milf] Profession: W/R	WOW!!! (I was going to write more but not going to talk about a closed thread) Log out is a nice feature for those who cannot explain the goings on of in game play. OP - I am a parent, not a very prudish one. If my children wanted to play I would allow them. My wife had issues at times when I was playing the game. I simply stop, and explain what was going on, or dicuss the issue and all is fine. Maybe instead of just showing the box to your parents, you could explain all the pros and cons of the game to your parents. You'll see people dressed in underwear as there are making better armor for themself, some of which will be dancing because they are happy that they finally got max armor (of course other reasons also). That you will meet and befriend numerous people from across the globe. So on and so on.....make a list sit down with them, show them Guildwars.com web site. Let them make a decision based on knowledge instead of the cover of one box. If you really want to play the game, do it with the knowledge that you haven't betrayed your parents trust.