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Destro Maniak · Sep 04, 2006, 04:38 PM // 16:38

I am going to mod my dagger to one of these dmg instead of piercing to bypass the armor's bonus +AL whick one should I chose

Aera · Sep 04, 2006, 05:04 PM // 17:04

Ebon or Icy, lots of elementists have aeomancer or pyromancer armor...

Wartime Hero · Sep 04, 2006, 05:17 PM // 17:17

I use Icy Dragon Sword, which is just a sword basically with a Icy mod on it, but if you want to deal alot of extra damage to warriors, Icy would be the way to go. Warriors have no elemental resistance so it does even more damage than say a Sundering mod.

dinocroc109 · Sep 04, 2006, 06:36 PM // 18:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wartime Hero

I use Icy Dragon Sword, which is just a sword basically with a Icy mod on it, but if you want to deal alot of extra damage to warriors, Icy would be the way to go. Warriors have no elemental resistance so it does even more damage than say a Sundering mod.

More than a 20:20 sundering sword mod?! I never heard that before. But what makes icy better than ebon, fire, or shocking sword hilts against warriors?

Yanman.be · Sep 04, 2006, 07:06 PM // 19:06

Sundering sucks. Only 20% chance to reduce armour by 20%.
Most pvp warriors use Gladiator's Armour. aka 80+20 vs physical. So sundering would reduce it to 80 al, but only 20% of the time.
Elemental mods, would hit 80 al, ALL THE TIME.

Ebon is the best handsdown. Right now.

Skuld · Sep 04, 2006, 08:54 PM // 20:54

Ebon: nothing is weak against ebon specificly, just rangers have a resistence to all elemental.

Elementalists and rangers (possibly dervishes too) have armour sets that give extra armour versus fire water and lightning (you will want to use a physical weapon vs them anyway meh)

Hakuin · Sep 04, 2006, 09:57 PM // 21:57

icy ftw

Megengo · Sep 04, 2006, 10:09 PM // 22:09

Vampiric FTW!

Horseman Of War · Sep 04, 2006, 10:31 PM // 22:31

arent spirits weak vs the Earth Dmg? I think thats why my dervish was cutting thru them in like 125+ dmg per hit @ pvp weekend.

aside from that, and in line with the above posters- icy would allow you to use 'conjure frost' while still being the "VS the least popular" in the armor department.

Fiery and Shocking, obviously, would also combine very nicely for any kind of "conjure element" skill and have a few more added perks than icy due to skills such as Mark of Trogdor, and Glimmering Mark, etc... but as they say, these are the two most common elemental armor types found in PvP elementals.

It all depends on your build- thats really the bottom line in it.

Vermilion Okeanos · Sep 05, 2006, 12:50 AM // 00:50

Fiery is the best for prophecies. If you fight someone who is good against fire, they are usually good against other elements anyway; just use physical in that case. While that, more creatures in tyria are afraid of fire (only few and fire island titans are well-built against fire).

In faction, I am not very sure. If I remember right, there aren't specific weakness in almost all of them. But places like urgoz etc, are afraid of fire, so I heard.

In Nightfall, I am assuming ice going to get better (desert after all).

This mean, fire is both good in pvp and pve.

Destro Maniak · Sep 05, 2006, 08:22 AM // 08:22

what a tactical game

Livingston · Sep 05, 2006, 02:56 PM // 14:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yanman.be

Sundering sucks. Only 20% chance to reduce armour by 20%.
Most pvp warriors use Gladiator's Armour. aka 80+20 vs physical. So sundering would reduce it to 80 al, but only 20% of the time.
Elemental mods, would hit 80 al, ALL THE TIME.

It never fails to amaze me how many people still think 20:20 Sundering is actually good, and pay 30k+ for weapons with it.

*Shakes head*

Ebon FTW

Though I prefer vampiric + mending for my Sin.

Livingston

dinocroc109 · Sep 05, 2006, 03:29 PM // 15:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livingston

It never fails to amaze me how many people still think 20:20 Sundering is actually good, and pay 30k+ for weapons with it.

*Shakes head*

Ebon FTW

Though I prefer vampiric + mending for my Sin.

Livingston

Yeah, I just wasted 73k + trades for a 20:20 sundering mod.

Should I change to earth still even though I spent all this money on sundering?

Trvth Jvstice · Sep 05, 2006, 08:15 PM // 20:15

I've been hearing alot of people say on the forums and in-game that ebon is the best mod. That has always puzzled me. I would thing fiery would be best in the shiverpeaks and icy would be best in the desert-but I haven't done any reaserch on it.

As far as vamp. mods go, I'd love tham on a sword or axe with a +attack speed boost + mending. But so many people make fun of mending warriors I havent tried it yet.

Franco · Sep 30, 2006, 12:06 AM // 00:06

Cold dmg or Ebon dmg

.

**Marty Silverblade** · Sep 30, 2006, 12:46 AM // 00:46

I'll sum it all up and add a bit from my own knowledge for your benefit

Fiery: Pros - Good for prophecies (i think), look cool (FDS, i mean, you can't tell for other weapons), Elementalist spells like Mark Of Rodgort own with fire weps.
Cons - Most Elementalists + some Rangers have pyromancer/the ranger one (drakeskale?) so the damage is reduced.

Icy: Pros - 15k can get you a nice perfect, cool looking IDS, Spinal Shivers Necromancers will allow you to interrupt really fast, Not many Elementalists/Rangers have Hydromancers armor/the Ranger equivalent (frostbound/fur-lined?).
Cons - Um... ... ... Ah! They're not as useful in the Southern Shiverpeaks.

Ebon: Pros - No one likes (or really apprieciates) Ebon weapons, because Fire is so much more 'leet', and this makes them slightly cheaper, less Elementalists have Geomancers armor, and I don't think there is a Ranger armor specific to preventing earth damage (Although they still have a large boost to elemental damage in general)
Cons - Not many things are weak against it.

Shocking: Pros - Glimmering mark/thunderclap is good with shocking weapons, avicara (they're a big pain in the ---) are weak against it.
Cons - Many Elementalists have aeromancers armor, and Rangers have the eqivalent (studded leather?)

Well it's my Warriors first birthday today (September 30) and I got a Jungle Troll

!!!!!! I'm happy.

Franco · Sep 30, 2006, 01:03 AM // 01:03

Well said, But by the way ,Dwarves and Ice golems are weak against cold dmg.... god knows why ^^.

N E D M · Sep 30, 2006, 12:54 PM // 12:54

also - eles have a bonus of 10 vs all elements now.
and an additional 10 vs one specific element.

ramma77 · Sep 30, 2006, 01:41 PM // 13:41

Sundering ftl

Ebon all the way

Chilly Ress · Oct 02, 2006, 05:35 AM // 05:35

Vs Wars/Rangers: icy-because MANY ele's have geomancer armor
Vs Everything else: zealous or vamp

Sep 04, 2006, 04:38 PM // 16:38	#1
Destro Maniak Jungle Guide Join Date: Aug 2006 Profession: A/	Ebon Fiery Icy Shocking I am going to mod my dagger to one of these dmg instead of piercing to bypass the armor's bonus +AL whick one should I chose

Sep 04, 2006, 05:04 PM // 17:04	#2
Aera Forge Runner Join Date: Dec 2005 Guild: Galactic President Superstar Mc [awsm] Profession: E/	Ebon or Icy, lots of elementists have aeomancer or pyromancer armor...

Sep 04, 2006, 05:17 PM // 17:17	#3
Wartime Hero Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Apr 2006 Profession: W/E	I use Icy Dragon Sword, which is just a sword basically with a Icy mod on it, but if you want to deal alot of extra damage to warriors, Icy would be the way to go. Warriors have no elemental resistance so it does even more damage than say a Sundering mod.

Sep 04, 2006, 07:06 PM // 19:06	#5
Yanman.be Banned Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Belgium Guild: [ROSE] Profession: A/	Sundering sucks. Only 20% chance to reduce armour by 20%. Most pvp warriors use Gladiator's Armour. aka 80+20 vs physical. So sundering would reduce it to 80 al, but only 20% of the time. Elemental mods, would hit 80 al, ALL THE TIME. Ebon is the best handsdown. Right now.

Sep 04, 2006, 08:54 PM // 20:54	#6
Skuld Furnace Stoker Join Date: Sep 2005 Guild: Thousend Tigers Apund Ur Head [Ttgr] Profession: A/	Ebon: nothing is weak against ebon specificly, just rangers have a resistence to all elemental. Elementalists and rangers (possibly dervishes too) have armour sets that give extra armour versus fire water and lightning (you will want to use a physical weapon vs them anyway meh)

Sep 04, 2006, 09:57 PM // 21:57	#7
Hakuin Academy Page Join Date: May 2006 Guild: Equal Opprotunity Employers Profession: Mo/W	icy ftw

Sep 04, 2006, 10:09 PM // 22:09	#8
Megengo Academy Page Join Date: Apr 2006 Guild: The Midnight Hand Profession: R/Mo	Vampiric FTW!

Sep 04, 2006, 10:31 PM // 22:31	#9
Horseman Of War Desert Nomad Join Date: Jun 2006 Guild: The Cult of Doom Profession: P/	arent spirits weak vs the Earth Dmg? I think thats why my dervish was cutting thru them in like 125+ dmg per hit @ pvp weekend. aside from that, and in line with the above posters- icy would allow you to use 'conjure frost' while still being the "VS the least popular" in the armor department. Fiery and Shocking, obviously, would also combine very nicely for any kind of "conjure element" skill and have a few more added perks than icy due to skills such as Mark of Trogdor, and Glimmering Mark, etc... but as they say, these are the two most common elemental armor types found in PvP elementals. It all depends on your build- thats really the bottom line in it.

Sep 05, 2006, 12:50 AM // 00:50	#10
Vermilion Okeanos Forge Runner Join Date: Feb 2005	Fiery is the best for prophecies. If you fight someone who is good against fire, they are usually good against other elements anyway; just use physical in that case. While that, more creatures in tyria are afraid of fire (only few and fire island titans are well-built against fire). In faction, I am not very sure. If I remember right, there aren't specific weakness in almost all of them. But places like urgoz etc, are afraid of fire, so I heard. In Nightfall, I am assuming ice going to get better (desert after all). This mean, fire is both good in pvp and pve.

Sep 05, 2006, 08:22 AM // 08:22	#11
Destro Maniak Jungle Guide Join Date: Aug 2006 Profession: A/	what a tactical game

Sep 05, 2006, 08:15 PM // 20:15	#14
Trvth Jvstice Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: May 2006 Guild: HALE Profession: W/	I've been hearing alot of people say on the forums and in-game that ebon is the best mod. That has always puzzled me. I would thing fiery would be best in the shiverpeaks and icy would be best in the desert-but I haven't done any reaserch on it. As far as vamp. mods go, I'd love tham on a sword or axe with a +attack speed boost + mending. But so many people make fun of mending warriors I havent tried it yet.

Sep 30, 2006, 12:06 AM // 00:06	#15
Franco Banned Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: England Guild: VoB Profession: Me/	Cold dmg or Ebon dmg .

Sep 30, 2006, 12:46 AM // 00:46	#16
Marty Silverblade Administrator Join Date: Jun 2006	I'll sum it all up and add a bit from my own knowledge for your benefit Fiery: Pros - Good for prophecies (i think), look cool (FDS, i mean, you can't tell for other weapons), Elementalist spells like Mark Of Rodgort own with fire weps. Cons - Most Elementalists + some Rangers have pyromancer/the ranger one (drakeskale?) so the damage is reduced. Icy: Pros - 15k can get you a nice perfect, cool looking IDS, Spinal Shivers Necromancers will allow you to interrupt really fast, Not many Elementalists/Rangers have Hydromancers armor/the Ranger equivalent (frostbound/fur-lined?). Cons - Um... ... ... Ah! They're not as useful in the Southern Shiverpeaks. Ebon: Pros - No one likes (or really apprieciates) Ebon weapons, because Fire is so much more 'leet', and this makes them slightly cheaper, less Elementalists have Geomancers armor, and I don't think there is a Ranger armor specific to preventing earth damage (Although they still have a large boost to elemental damage in general) Cons - Not many things are weak against it. Shocking: Pros - Glimmering mark/thunderclap is good with shocking weapons, avicara (they're a big pain in the ---) are weak against it. Cons - Many Elementalists have aeromancers armor, and Rangers have the eqivalent (studded leather?) Well it's my Warriors first birthday today (September 30) and I got a Jungle Troll !!!!!! I'm happy.

Sep 30, 2006, 01:03 AM // 01:03	#17
Franco Banned Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: England Guild: VoB Profession: Me/	Well said, But by the way ,Dwarves and Ice golems are weak against cold dmg.... god knows why ^^.

Sep 30, 2006, 12:54 PM // 12:54	#18
N E D M Desert Nomad Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Officer's Club Guild: Gameamp Guides [AMP]	also - eles have a bonus of 10 vs all elements now. and an additional 10 vs one specific element.

Sep 30, 2006, 01:41 PM // 13:41	#19
ramma77 Krytan Explorer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: South Shields, England Guild: The Psycho Titans Profession: R/	Sundering ftl Ebon all the way

Oct 02, 2006, 05:35 AM // 05:35	#20
Chilly Ress Jungle Guide Join Date: Oct 2005 Guild: Kinetic Fusion [kF] Profession: Me/	Vs Wars/Rangers: icy-because MANY ele's have geomancer armor Vs Everything else: zealous or vamp