What is 'perfect'? - Guild Wars Forums

Setra · Oct 04, 2006, 05:25 AM // 05:25

When people say they wanna sell a 'perfect' weapon, what exactly does that mean?

October Jade · Oct 04, 2006, 05:34 AM // 05:34

Well, in all honesty..."perfect" is in the eye of the beholder.
There are only two real criteria, and everything beyond that is subject to interpretation. The most basic necessities are that the weapon be max damage and +15%. Everything else (requirement, +% condition, affixes, etc) is just extra.

Note: Someone will probably reply stating that only a req 7 Sundering Whatever of Fortitude could be considered perfect. S/he is entitled to that opinion; I just choose to disagree.

Turbo Wombat · Oct 04, 2006, 05:38 AM // 05:38

Usually, Max damage, max damage modifier, req. 9, and a suffux and prefix mod that have max stats. Though, the suffix and prefix mods aren't as important, because they can be overwritten. For example, a Vampiric Gothic Sword of Fortitude with the following stats would be considered perfect:

Slashing Damage: 15-22
Damage +15% (While health is over 50%) - AKA 15^50
Health Regeneration: -1
Life Stealing: 3
Health +30

Kook~NBK~ · Oct 04, 2006, 05:44 AM // 05:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by October Jade

Well, in all honesty..."perfect" is in the eye of the beholder.

QFT.

IMHO, there's no such thing as a "perfect" weapon for all occasions. However, there are weapons with mod combos that fit certain builds & situations better than others (where "perfect" = best possible weapon for that situation).

**Marty Silverblade** · Oct 04, 2006, 06:58 AM // 06:58

Perfect IMO is just any weapon that has max possible stats. How useful a weapon is does not matter as to whether it is perfect or not. For example, Sundering weapons could be the most expensive weapon prefix, but they suck big time.

strcpy · Oct 04, 2006, 07:20 AM // 07:20

In this particular game "perfect" means max. The only real argument is if, on weapons, things like requirements matter and +damage matter. Generally speaking it is listed seperatly.

That is - a perfect fellblade (a sword) does a damage of 15-22. It's req and scripts are usually seperate from that (A perfect fellblade req10 14>50 will be seen even though the 14>50 us not perfect). Max mods are perfect - +30 fortitude, +5 of armor, etc.

If you have another personal definition of "perfect" you will very dissapointed. No one is to stop you, but "perfect" has an in game definition. On weapons it means max damage, on mods it's means max value, everything else is listed beyond that. Though if Nightfalls salvage system rumors are accurate then "perfect" may change some (specifically things like 14>50 are salvagable so that "perfect" will only apply to 15>50). In any event perfect means max stat regardles of the stat in question.

Haggard · Oct 04, 2006, 07:23 AM // 07:23

The salvaging of interal mods is called 'Inscriptions'. All traders better go crazy before it's released - they'll find themselves nerfed to crap when people can make their own perfect gold weapons.

Franco · Oct 04, 2006, 12:04 PM // 12:04

They usually mean req 8 15^50 with a sundering 20/20 and +30hp mod.

Ofcourse we all know that sundering sucks and +30hp mod is only useful in pvp for damage that ignores armor spikes... like blood spike, otherwise +5al is better.

Lykan · Oct 04, 2006, 01:46 PM // 13:46

In my mind there are 2 variations of perfect which people spam, the wrong one and the right one

the wrong = "WTS Max Dmg Godly Req 7/8/9 20/20 15^50 Great sword Thing +30HP"
Most people wrongly think adding sundering and +30 hp make a weapon godly.

the right description of perfect in my mind is Req 7/8/9 15^50 Max Dmg.

Mods are unimportant because you can change them freely, a cruel prefix and a trollslaying mod dont make a weapon less desirable.

(on a side note, anyone else noticed all the Sephis and Crystalline being sold in anticipation of a NF economy crash ^^ rofl!)

Franco · Oct 04, 2006, 02:13 PM // 14:13

yeah i have, I myself decided to sell all my gold colllection and start using greens .

Just in case nightfall inscriptions happens , i dont wanna cry lol.

Painbringer · Oct 04, 2006, 02:37 PM // 14:37

It all what you think is perfect. If you have loads of money you can buy anything you want. If you are poor like me it is the best item you can find. As stated in other posts it depends on builds. Example: If you are a warrior that uses adrenaline skills and relatively no energy skills then a weapon with +15% Damage -5 energy would be the best for you. A warrior that uses a mix of both energy and Adrenaline will prefer a + 15% damage when health is over 50%. Also a perfect weapon changes for your situation Example- Troll Farming / you use enchantments constantly so a + 15% damage while under an enchantment may be the best for you. Under the price check forum there is a thread you can look at the estimated values of rare skins of perfect weapons. Rare skins are no better then cheap skins it is all looks, and collect ability. This is what makes the economics of GW.

Jeff Highwind · Oct 04, 2006, 04:07 PM // 16:07

You guys forgot staves.

Perfect staves are, like the others, req8 (Attribute) and either 20/20 HCT/HSR of the required attribute or just generic 10/10 HCT/HSR. As for mods, most people normally demand max HP/MP Mods or matching "Attribute +1 (20%)".

Though most people prefer to buy Green staves to get this perfection.

Riken Chrono · Oct 05, 2006, 03:10 AM // 03:10

for me, max stats for inhermit mod, added mods and lowest req possible for max damage. so for some items, req 7 and some req. i dont think a req 8 15^50 3/1 +30 sword is perfect cuz it could be better being req 7. just my opinion but yea

Oct 04, 2006, 05:25 AM // 05:25	#1
Setra Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jun 2006 Guild: Protectors of Tyria Kingdom Profession: W/Mo	What is 'perfect'? When people say they wanna sell a 'perfect' weapon, what exactly does that mean?

Oct 04, 2006, 01:46 PM // 13:46	#9
Lykan Forge Runner Join Date: May 2005 Guild: StP Profession: R/	In my mind there are 2 variations of perfect which people spam, the wrong one and the right one the wrong = "WTS Max Dmg Godly Req 7/8/9 20/20 15^50 Great sword Thing +30HP" Most people wrongly think adding sundering and +30 hp make a weapon godly. the right description of perfect in my mind is Req 7/8/9 15^50 Max Dmg. Mods are unimportant because you can change them freely, a cruel prefix and a trollslaying mod dont make a weapon less desirable. (on a side note, anyone else noticed all the Sephis and Crystalline being sold in anticipation of a NF economy crash ^^ rofl!) Last edited by Lykan; Oct 04, 2006 at 02:19 PM // 14:19..

Oct 04, 2006, 05:34 AM // 05:34	#2
October Jade Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: drifting between Indiana and NorCal	Well, in all honesty..."perfect" is in the eye of the beholder. There are only two real criteria, and everything beyond that is subject to interpretation. The most basic necessities are that the weapon be max damage and +15%. Everything else (requirement, +% condition, affixes, etc) is just extra. Note: Someone will probably reply stating that only a req 7 Sundering Whatever of Fortitude could be considered perfect. S/he is entitled to that opinion; I just choose to disagree.

Oct 04, 2006, 05:38 AM // 05:38	#3
Turbo Wombat Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Centeral Texas Guild: Heros of Titans Realm Profession: Me/	Usually, Max damage, max damage modifier, req. 9, and a suffux and prefix mod that have max stats. Though, the suffix and prefix mods aren't as important, because they can be overwritten. For example, a Vampiric Gothic Sword of Fortitude with the following stats would be considered perfect: Slashing Damage: 15-22 Damage +15% (While health is over 50%) - AKA 15^50 Health Regeneration: -1 Life Stealing: 3 Health +30

Oct 04, 2006, 06:58 AM // 06:58	#5
Marty Silverblade Administrator Join Date: Jun 2006	Perfect IMO is just any weapon that has max possible stats. How useful a weapon is does not matter as to whether it is perfect or not. For example, Sundering weapons could be the most expensive weapon prefix, but they suck big time.

Oct 04, 2006, 07:20 AM // 07:20	#6
strcpy Desert Nomad Join Date: Jul 2005 Guild: One of Many [ONE]	In this particular game "perfect" means max. The only real argument is if, on weapons, things like requirements matter and +damage matter. Generally speaking it is listed seperatly. That is - a perfect fellblade (a sword) does a damage of 15-22. It's req and scripts are usually seperate from that (A perfect fellblade req10 14>50 will be seen even though the 14>50 us not perfect). Max mods are perfect - +30 fortitude, +5 of armor, etc. If you have another personal definition of "perfect" you will very dissapointed. No one is to stop you, but "perfect" has an in game definition. On weapons it means max damage, on mods it's means max value, everything else is listed beyond that. Though if Nightfalls salvage system rumors are accurate then "perfect" may change some (specifically things like 14>50 are salvagable so that "perfect" will only apply to 15>50). In any event perfect means max stat regardles of the stat in question.

Oct 04, 2006, 07:23 AM // 07:23	#7
Haggard Desert Nomad Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Urmston, Manchester, UK Guild: Greener Pastures [DVDF] Profession: W/Rt	The salvaging of interal mods is called 'Inscriptions'. All traders better go crazy before it's released - they'll find themselves nerfed to crap when people can make their own perfect gold weapons.

Oct 04, 2006, 12:04 PM // 12:04	#8
Franco Banned Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: England Guild: VoB Profession: Me/	They usually mean req 8 15^50 with a sundering 20/20 and +30hp mod. Ofcourse we all know that sundering sucks and +30hp mod is only useful in pvp for damage that ignores armor spikes... like blood spike, otherwise +5al is better.

Oct 04, 2006, 02:13 PM // 14:13	#10
Franco Banned Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: England Guild: VoB Profession: Me/	yeah i have, I myself decided to sell all my gold colllection and start using greens . Just in case nightfall inscriptions happens , i dont wanna cry lol.

Oct 04, 2006, 02:37 PM // 14:37	#11
Painbringer Furnace Stoker Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Minnesota Guild: Black Widows of Death Profession: W/Mo	It all what you think is perfect. If you have loads of money you can buy anything you want. If you are poor like me it is the best item you can find. As stated in other posts it depends on builds. Example: If you are a warrior that uses adrenaline skills and relatively no energy skills then a weapon with +15% Damage -5 energy would be the best for you. A warrior that uses a mix of both energy and Adrenaline will prefer a + 15% damage when health is over 50%. Also a perfect weapon changes for your situation Example- Troll Farming / you use enchantments constantly so a + 15% damage while under an enchantment may be the best for you. Under the price check forum there is a thread you can look at the estimated values of rare skins of perfect weapons. Rare skins are no better then cheap skins it is all looks, and collect ability. This is what makes the economics of GW.

Oct 04, 2006, 04:07 PM // 16:07	#12
Jeff Highwind Forge Runner Join Date: Jul 2006 Guild: Grenth's Rejects [GR] Profession: R/Mo	You guys forgot staves. Perfect staves are, like the others, req8 (Attribute) and either 20/20 HCT/HSR of the required attribute or just generic 10/10 HCT/HSR. As for mods, most people normally demand max HP/MP Mods or matching "Attribute +1 (20%)". Though most people prefer to buy Green staves to get this perfection.

Oct 05, 2006, 03:10 AM // 03:10	#13
Riken Chrono Desert Nomad Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: around the corner and up the block Guild: Hero	for me, max stats for inhermit mod, added mods and lowest req possible for max damage. so for some items, req 7 and some req. i dont think a req 8 15^50 3/1 +30 sword is perfect cuz it could be better being req 7. just my opinion but yea