Generous Was Tsungrai Error? - Guild Wars Forums

Lavindathar · Oct 10, 2006, 11:14 AM // 11:14

Ok, is it me or is the skill description for this spell wrong?

"Sacrifice 10% Health. Hold Tsungrai's ashes for up to 15...51 seconds and gain +50...122 maximum Health. When you drop his ashes you gain 100...244 Health. "

Right, when I use this item spell it works exactly like stated. But when I drop the ashes, I also gain 10 energy. I've tried this over and over, and I always gain 10 energy when I drop the ashes.

Can someone else try this to let me know? Cos if so the ingame/wiki descriptions are wrong.....

Stealthc · Oct 10, 2006, 11:20 AM // 11:20

When you're holding the ashes you're not holding your staff, so you'll notice that you lose 10 energy. Then when you drop the ashes, you re-equip your staff and regain the energy bonus the staff provides.

The Silver Star · Oct 10, 2006, 11:37 AM // 11:37

Correct when holding an item you are not holding your equipment so if you use an item spell your equipemnt will be unequiped until you drop it.

Mylon · Oct 10, 2006, 02:22 PM // 14:22

And this is why most item spells are stupid. Almost all of them are defensive (even the ones that do damage!), and they're not even very good with the defense. +Max health? I'd rather have a 50% block chance warrior stance that doesn't drain my energy.

Spellforge · Oct 10, 2006, 03:03 PM // 15:03

This can be quite good with W/Rt who are running.
Use it at the beginning of a run , heal up to new max health - start run.
Sure you have lost your shield but when things get a bit hairy you can drop the ashes to heal yourself right backup without the need to stop running

Dr Strangelove · Oct 10, 2006, 03:29 PM // 15:29

Unlike most of the ashes spells, generous is actually pretty worthwhile. 10% max health is probably somewhere around 48, while the health gained when you drop it is around 248. 200 point self heal for 5 energy? Yes please.

Lavindathar · Oct 10, 2006, 05:04 PM // 17:04

Lol, im such an idiot. Didn't think of that.

That also means Im gonna lose the 60 health my staff gives me....gonna have to have a look and see if this is worthwhile...

Mylon · Oct 11, 2006, 12:55 AM // 00:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Strangelove

Unlike most of the ashes spells, generous is actually pretty worthwhile. 10% max health is probably somewhere around 48, while the health gained when you drop it is around 248. 200 point self heal for 5 energy? Yes please.

Requires a 10% sacrifice, and more if using +health mods. At a 15 second recharge, though, the spell typically is great for one emergency. If one knows in advance they're gonna need that heal, they can do it twice, but that's a bit tricky. I guess it's not that bad of a spell.

I still think all of the item spells could do with a decent boost to make up for the lack of defensive mods and +energy while they are held.

Oct 10, 2006, 11:14 AM // 11:14	#1
Lavindathar Krytan Explorer Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Manchester, England Guild: The Monstrous Fangs (fang) Profession: N/Mo	Generous Was Tsungrai Error? Ok, is it me or is the skill description for this spell wrong? "Sacrifice 10% Health. Hold Tsungrai's ashes for up to 15...51 seconds and gain +50...122 maximum Health. When you drop his ashes you gain 100...244 Health. " Right, when I use this item spell it works exactly like stated. But when I drop the ashes, I also gain 10 energy. I've tried this over and over, and I always gain 10 energy when I drop the ashes. Can someone else try this to let me know? Cos if so the ingame/wiki descriptions are wrong.....

Oct 10, 2006, 11:20 AM // 11:20	#2
Stealthc Academy Page Join Date: Dec 2005 Guild: Kansas City Hotsteppers	When you're holding the ashes you're not holding your staff, so you'll notice that you lose 10 energy. Then when you drop the ashes, you re-equip your staff and regain the energy bonus the staff provides.

Oct 10, 2006, 11:37 AM // 11:37	#3
The Silver Star Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: UK, Scotland Guild: Il Guild Name Il Profession: W/	Correct when holding an item you are not holding your equipment so if you use an item spell your equipemnt will be unequiped until you drop it.

Oct 10, 2006, 02:22 PM // 14:22	#4
Mylon Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jul 2006	And this is why most item spells are stupid. Almost all of them are defensive (even the ones that do damage!), and they're not even very good with the defense. +Max health? I'd rather have a 50% block chance warrior stance that doesn't drain my energy.

Oct 10, 2006, 03:03 PM // 15:03	#5
Spellforge Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Mar 2006 Guild: Guildless Profession: N/	This can be quite good with W/Rt who are running. Use it at the beginning of a run , heal up to new max health - start run. Sure you have lost your shield but when things get a bit hairy you can drop the ashes to heal yourself right backup without the need to stop running

Oct 10, 2006, 03:29 PM // 15:29	#6
Dr Strangelove Furnace Stoker Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Wasting away again in Margaritaville Guild: [HOTR]	Unlike most of the ashes spells, generous is actually pretty worthwhile. 10% max health is probably somewhere around 48, while the health gained when you drop it is around 248. 200 point self heal for 5 energy? Yes please.

Oct 10, 2006, 05:04 PM // 17:04	#7
Lavindathar Krytan Explorer Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Manchester, England Guild: The Monstrous Fangs (fang) Profession: N/Mo	Lol, im such an idiot. Didn't think of that. That also means Im gonna lose the 60 health my staff gives me....gonna have to have a look and see if this is worthwhile...