What makes someone pro? - Guild Wars Forums

shrouded^god · Oct 14, 2006, 07:26 PM // 19:26

Well this morning I was doing an alliance battle with an assassin build of mine, there was this one assassin who kept coming after me...I ended up killing her 7 or 8 times although she was decent and laid quite a lot of damage down quickly. After I whispered her to help, offer my opinion on the way she was working her build...only to get a 'STFU noob, Im a pro LoL' and that was it...

What makes someone think they're pro?

LifeInfusion · Oct 14, 2006, 07:43 PM // 19:43

The Conquering Champion title.

EDIT: MAYBE "People Know Me" also...but I doubt it with all the buyable/farmable titles

McMullen · Oct 14, 2006, 07:44 PM // 19:44

Some people mistake being a pro with having their head up their arse.

Yanman.be · Oct 14, 2006, 07:48 PM // 19:48

People are pro when:

They get paid to play.
They know all skills, costs and progressions by heart.
It takes them no time to analyze other builds, come up with counters.
Know all the game mechanics.
Solo "The Deep"

trankle · Oct 14, 2006, 07:52 PM // 19:52

You are a GW professional if you generate enough real-world income by playing GW to pay your bills and feed yourself.

So, many of your eBay resellers could be considered professionals.

When a player refers to himself as a "pro" in-game, he is generally trying to communicate that his ego has ballooned to unhealthy proportions. Your best move is to humor him.

Sol_Vie · Oct 14, 2006, 08:05 PM // 20:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by trankle

When a player refers to himself as a "pro" in-game, he is generally trying to communicate that his ego has ballooned to unhealthy proportions. Your best move is to humor him.

QFT.

People who call themselves "pros" are just being stupid. It's like all those players that call other people "noobs". Humoring them is your best option.

Bale_Shadowscar · Oct 14, 2006, 08:33 PM // 20:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yanman.be

People are pro when:
They know all skills, costs and progressions by heart.

I think that would be considered "Having waaaay too much time" instead of pro, but I know what your getting at :P

And I think the topic starter was hoping for responses to people being experts at the game, not responses like "Being a Pro means you get paid" (although being a professional at something does mean you get paid for it)

Kook~NBK~ · Oct 14, 2006, 08:45 PM // 20:45

People who call themselves "pro" are generally either suffering from delusions of gradeur or have ego problems. The only possible exception are "pro runners." But I don't see many long-time runners in Beacon's Perch calling themselves "pro."

lyra_song · Oct 14, 2006, 08:49 PM // 20:49

I think....its hard to be a pro at this game.

At least the PVP side of it.

Yes, you can learn a lot of things, but you'll never be able to know everything, since the skills are changing and tactics change and people always find a new way to play.

The PVE side is fairly easy to become a "pro" in.

Things that DONT make you a pro are:

Rank
Armor
Amount of Money you have
Hours you spent.

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Now dont get me wrong. You can be a "pro" assassin and know everything about assassins and how to beat every class with them.

But thats just 1 class.

-----------------

When a person becomes skilled in something, the natural thing that the person does is to teach what they know.

That assassin was being an ASS.

rxtracid · Oct 14, 2006, 08:56 PM // 20:56

<--- n00b

Age · Oct 14, 2006, 09:06 PM // 21:06

I don't think GW is something you could consider your self to be a pro at atleast not yet give it some more time.

led-zep · Oct 14, 2006, 10:13 PM // 22:13

what makes someone pro?...

if they get paid to play AND make a living from it, not just win a tournament or 2

mrdbeau · Oct 14, 2006, 10:48 PM // 22:48

Making any amount of money playing the game qualifies you as Pro, IMO.

But, I'm a bit biased about it, myself.

Syndren · Oct 14, 2006, 11:04 PM // 23:04

Hmm I don't think there is an actual 'pro' in Guild Wars. Grinding for titles can also just mean that they know one particular build well enough (so only being a pro in that specific build).

The closest one can be to a 'pro' would be (imho):

-Someone who can accept that they are not a pro and still have alot to learn (humble)

-If a critic or suggestions are given to be quiet, listen, and consider what the other person has to say. Always trying to make thier build/understanding better

-Always finds new and innovative ways to do things in GW (totally new builds, fashions, trends, tactics, etc)

-Does not follow the band wagon

Ganik Thress · Oct 14, 2006, 11:31 PM // 23:31

I feel that "pro"-dom is an attitude developed by those that observed the talented players playing, with their quick fingers and fast thinking. It eventually tumbled into an ego-fest, I'm guessing, where everyone strived to become "pro's", and eventually, as they developed the attitude even though they did not have the "pro" skill that people looked up to, got to the point where they loved smelling their own farts.

Lagg · Oct 14, 2006, 11:37 PM // 23:37

If you play from work and suck at the game, you are in fact a pro noob.

Solar Light · Oct 14, 2006, 11:39 PM // 23:39

i would take two things into account for "pro"

Personal skills and attitude/personality.

Franco · Oct 14, 2006, 11:47 PM // 23:47

I agree with the person that said someone that makes a living out of this game is a pro. I mean he must be really good at it if he can do that otherwise everyone would do the same.

Stockholm · Oct 14, 2006, 11:48 PM // 23:48

"A professional provides a service in exchange for payment in accordance with established protocols for licensing, ethics, procedures, standards of service and training/certification. A professional is a member of a licensing body which is legally established within the laws of a given state, county, province or nation.

The term "professional" is widely used to refer to individuals with recognized expertise within a field of endeavor even though they are not a member of a licensing body or legal entity. The distinction between professional sports and amateur sports simply refers to how the athlete is funded. Similarly the distinction within creative pursuits between professional and amateur becomes somewhat grey.

Historically, behaving professionally would indicate that the person's actions remain in accordance with specific rules, written or unwritten, pertaining to behavior, dress, speech, etc. By extension, the adjective professional identified somebody recognized for expertise or skill in a craft or activity."

Anyone calling him/her self "pro" in open chat does not qualify in the above quote

Kakumei · Oct 14, 2006, 11:51 PM // 23:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Syndren

-Always finds new and innovative ways to do things in GW (totally new builds, fashions, trends, tactics, etc)

-Does not follow the band wagon

That's a Johnny, not a pro. It's best if you don't get them confused.

Oct 14, 2006, 07:26 PM // 19:26	#1
shrouded^god IGN: J C A C H E Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: 843 Guild: [Liar]	What makes someone pro? Well this morning I was doing an alliance battle with an assassin build of mine, there was this one assassin who kept coming after me...I ended up killing her 7 or 8 times although she was decent and laid quite a lot of damage down quickly. After I whispered her to help, offer my opinion on the way she was working her build...only to get a 'STFU noob, Im a pro LoL' and that was it... What makes someone think they're pro?

Oct 14, 2006, 07:43 PM // 19:43	#2
LifeInfusion Grotto Attendant Join Date: May 2005 Location: in the midline Profession: E/Mo	The Conquering Champion title. EDIT: MAYBE "People Know Me" also...but I doubt it with all the buyable/farmable titles

Oct 14, 2006, 07:44 PM // 19:44	#3
McMullen Krytan Explorer Join Date: Oct 2005 Profession: R/W	Some people mistake being a pro with having their head up their arse.

Oct 14, 2006, 07:48 PM // 19:48	#4
Yanman.be Banned Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Belgium Guild: [ROSE] Profession: A/	People are pro when: They get paid to play. They know all skills, costs and progressions by heart. It takes them no time to analyze other builds, come up with counters. Know all the game mechanics. Solo "The Deep"

Oct 14, 2006, 07:52 PM // 19:52	#5
trankle Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Oct 2005 Guild: BloodBath & Beyond Profession: Rt/	You are a GW professional if you generate enough real-world income by playing GW to pay your bills and feed yourself. So, many of your eBay resellers could be considered professionals. When a player refers to himself as a "pro" in-game, he is generally trying to communicate that his ego has ballooned to unhealthy proportions. Your best move is to humor him.

Oct 14, 2006, 08:45 PM // 20:45	#8
Kook~NBK~ Grotto Attendant Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: A little chalet outside Drok's Guild: Natural Born Killaz	People who call themselves "pro" are generally either suffering from delusions of gradeur or have ego problems. The only possible exception are "pro runners." But I don't see many long-time runners in Beacon's Perch calling themselves "pro."

Oct 14, 2006, 08:49 PM // 20:49	#9
lyra_song Hell's Protector Join Date: Oct 2005 Profession: R/Mo	I think....its hard to be a pro at this game. At least the PVP side of it. Yes, you can learn a lot of things, but you'll never be able to know everything, since the skills are changing and tactics change and people always find a new way to play. The PVE side is fairly easy to become a "pro" in. Things that DONT make you a pro are: Rank Armor Amount of Money you have Hours you spent. -------------- Now dont get me wrong. You can be a "pro" assassin and know everything about assassins and how to beat every class with them. But thats just 1 class. ----------------- When a person becomes skilled in something, the natural thing that the person does is to teach what they know. That assassin was being an ASS.

Oct 14, 2006, 08:56 PM // 20:56	#10
rxtracid Academy Page Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: MoDeStO, Ca Guild: The Rockstar Guild Profession: W/R	<--- n00b

Oct 14, 2006, 09:06 PM // 21:06	#11
Age Hall Hero Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: California Canada/BC Guild: STG Administrator Profession: Mo/	I don't think GW is something you could consider your self to be a pro at atleast not yet give it some more time.

Oct 14, 2006, 10:13 PM // 22:13	#12
led-zep Krytan Explorer Join Date: Nov 2005	what makes someone pro?... if they get paid to play AND make a living from it, not just win a tournament or 2

Oct 14, 2006, 10:48 PM // 22:48	#13
mrdbeau Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jun 2005 Guild: Sons of Narnia Profession: P/	Making any amount of money playing the game qualifies you as Pro, IMO. But, I'm a bit biased about it, myself.

Oct 14, 2006, 11:04 PM // 23:04	#14
Syndren Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jan 2006 Guild: United Union [GWU]	Hmm I don't think there is an actual 'pro' in Guild Wars. Grinding for titles can also just mean that they know one particular build well enough (so only being a pro in that specific build). The closest one can be to a 'pro' would be (imho): -Someone who can accept that they are not a pro and still have alot to learn (humble) -If a critic or suggestions are given to be quiet, listen, and consider what the other person has to say. Always trying to make thier build/understanding better -Always finds new and innovative ways to do things in GW (totally new builds, fashions, trends, tactics, etc) -Does not follow the band wagon

Oct 14, 2006, 11:31 PM // 23:31	#15
Ganik Thress Banned Join Date: Apr 2006 Guild: Xen of Onslaught [XoO] Profession: W/E	I feel that "pro"-dom is an attitude developed by those that observed the talented players playing, with their quick fingers and fast thinking. It eventually tumbled into an ego-fest, I'm guessing, where everyone strived to become "pro's", and eventually, as they developed the attitude even though they did not have the "pro" skill that people looked up to, got to the point where they loved smelling their own farts.

Oct 14, 2006, 11:37 PM // 23:37	#16
Lagg Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jun 2005 Profession: W/	If you play from work and suck at the game, you are in fact a pro noob.

Oct 14, 2006, 11:39 PM // 23:39	#17
Solar Light Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: May 2006 Guild: Teutonic Warriors {TW} Profession: Mo/	i would take two things into account for "pro" Personal skills and attitude/personality.

Oct 14, 2006, 11:47 PM // 23:47	#18
Franco Banned Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: England Guild: VoB Profession: Me/	I agree with the person that said someone that makes a living out of this game is a pro. I mean he must be really good at it if he can do that otherwise everyone would do the same.

Oct 14, 2006, 11:48 PM // 23:48	#19
Stockholm Desert Nomad Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Censored Guild: Censored Profession: R/	"A professional provides a service in exchange for payment in accordance with established protocols for licensing, ethics, procedures, standards of service and training/certification. A professional is a member of a licensing body which is legally established within the laws of a given state, county, province or nation. The term "professional" is widely used to refer to individuals with recognized expertise within a field of endeavor even though they are not a member of a licensing body or legal entity. The distinction between professional sports and amateur sports simply refers to how the athlete is funded. Similarly the distinction within creative pursuits between professional and amateur becomes somewhat grey. Historically, behaving professionally would indicate that the person's actions remain in accordance with specific rules, written or unwritten, pertaining to behavior, dress, speech, etc. By extension, the adjective professional identified somebody recognized for expertise or skill in a craft or activity." Anyone calling him/her self "pro" in open chat does not qualify in the above quote