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Snipe Dog · Oct 14, 2006, 08:34 PM // 20:34

I noticed everybody was saying he should be a warrior elementalist if he wanted to be a "battle mage". Well what about a warrior mesmer or a warrior necromancer or even a derfish when nightfall comes out. Is that a bad choice?

The Pointless · Oct 14, 2006, 09:29 PM // 21:29

I figure battle mages in WoW use similar magic types to the Elementalist profession.
In terms of dmg types, Mesmers are limited to one (Chaos), Necros 2 (Cold and Dark) and the Dervish have their Wind and Earth Prayers.

The Pointless · Oct 14, 2006, 09:29 PM // 21:29

Once again, the evil Double Post gremlin rears its ugly head...

Akoshi · Oct 14, 2006, 09:49 PM // 21:49

I was also wondering about starting with GW, at the moment playing WoW but getting kinda bored, writing here so I would spare everyone for an extra thread. Im kinda getting confused of what everyone is writing so here is my questions:

1. Can you have more than one character on an account?

2. Whats the diffrence between Fractions, Nightfall and Prophecies? Please do write so normal mortals can understand it ^^

3. Can I attack other players/they attack me if I wander into enemy territory?

4. Can you invade "enemy" towns to change the borders between the two groups?

5. How does the "Battegrounds" work?

6. In WoW guilds the people in the guild Raid instances etc. Is there anything special guilds here can do?

luxor9 · Oct 14, 2006, 10:25 PM // 22:25

sry about my poor attitude lately everyone D;

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Originally Posted by Akoshi

I was also wondering about starting with GW, at the moment playing WoW but getting kinda bored, writing here so I would spare everyone for an extra thread. Im kinda getting confused of what everyone is writing so here is my questions:

1. Can you have more than one character on an account?

2. Whats the diffrence between Fractions, Nightfall and Prophecies? Please do write so normal mortals can understand it ^^

3. Can I attack other players/they attack me if I wander into enemy territory?

4. Can you invade "enemy" towns to change the borders between the two groups?

5. How does the "Battegrounds" work?

6. In WoW guilds the people in the guild Raid instances etc. Is there anything special guilds here can do?

1. Yes you get 4 character slots when you buy prophecies, and 2 additional slots for each expansion you buy. You can also purchase a slot in the online store for $9.99.

2. Good question. Well picture this. Prophecies, Factions, and Nightfall all take place on seperate continents all with completely different landscapes, monsters, and challenges. If you own all the games, you can travel between each continent with all of your characters.

3. When you exit a town, you enter your own private copy of the world so there's no other people unless you form a party with them before you leave. So no pking people and no kill stealing which is nice but takes away some possible fun element of danger. Of course there's map's where you can attack players. There's are many different styles of pvp.

The rest would probably better for someone else to answer I don't really know much about guilds and guild battles.

Snipe Dog · Oct 14, 2006, 10:33 PM // 22:33

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Originally Posted by Akoshi

I was also wondering about starting with GW, at the moment playing WoW but getting kinda bored, writing here so I would spare everyone for an extra thread. Im kinda getting confused of what everyone is writing so here is my questions:

1. Can you have more than one character on an account?

2. Whats the diffrence between Fractions, Nightfall and Prophecies? Please do write so normal mortals can understand it ^^

3. Can I attack other players/they attack me if I wander into enemy territory?

4. Can you invade "enemy" towns to change the borders between the two groups?

5. How does the "Battegrounds" work?

6. In WoW guilds the people in the guild Raid instances etc. Is there anything special guilds here can do?

1. Yeah, when you buy a version of the game you get 4 character slots every other little upgrade thing you buy (eg factions)wil give you another 2 character slots and you can buy extra character slots for about ??5 in the online store.

2 The different campaign you buy determines the area in which you start in. Prophecies you start in tyria, factions you start in cantha and nightfall you will start in elona (i think). It basicaly determines the game map you start off with. Buying multiple campaigns will let your character travel between these maps.

3 No, the only way to attack other players is in aranged battles and things in the team arena's, random arenas and guild halls and things.

4 In factions sortof yes. Its the more pvp weighted one.

5 Sorry dont quite understand the question.

6 Guilds can invite other guilds to their island for arranged fights to determine their rank on the guild ladder.

PLease excuse my bad spelling, its too late for me to be up...

Kook~NBK~ · Oct 15, 2006, 12:28 AM // 00:28

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Originally Posted by Akoshi

I was also wondering about starting with GW, at the moment playing WoW but getting kinda bored, writing here so I would spare everyone for an extra thread. Im kinda getting confused of what everyone is writing so here is my questions:

1. Can you have more than one character on an account?

Yes, with your intial game (whichever chapter) will give you 4 character slots. For each chapter you add to your account, you'll get 2 additional slots. When you combine chapters in this way, you can create a character in any of the chapters you have, and you take take them to any of the other continents when you get to the respective port cities.

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2. Whats the diffrence between Fractions, Nightfall and Prophecies? Please do write so normal mortals can understand it ^^

Prophecies and Nightfall are geared more towards the PvE playing style. They both have a longer, more gradual learning curve than factions. factons has a strong PvP flavor to it, even on the PvE side & has isn't "learning friendly"

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3. Can I attack other players/they attack me if I wander into enemy territory?

Nope. When you leave towns in PvE, you're put in an "instance" area - it's your party's own world and there are no other parties there.

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4. Can you invade "enemy" towns to change the borders between the two groups?

The closest thing that comes to this is in factions, where there is a PvP arena for gaining control of an area. The guild with the most faction earned in the alliance (group of up to 10 guilds) with the highest amount of faction (points earned for doing certian PvP battles) gets control of the most important city on their side. The top ten alliances on each side gain control of towns.

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5. How does the "Battegrounds" work?

The main battleground area is accessible through any chapter, and there are 3 main types of play there. The first is 4 vs 4 random arenas, where you enter the battle by yourself and are paired by the game with 3 other people. There is also the 4vs4 Team Arenas, where you pick your teammates. Hero's ascent is where 6-person teams compete with each other. Guild battles are for 8-person guild groups to fight against other 8-person guild groups.

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6. In WoW guilds the people in the guild Raid instances etc. Is there anything special guilds here can do?

No raids in GW, just Guild Battles.

Akoshi · Oct 15, 2006, 07:50 AM // 07:50

Thanks for the answears and such but I have another "Problem". Everyone says Prophecies is the greatest to start with right? But in prophecies you can't be assassin and that was the class I was thiking the most of =P

So then I should but Nightfall instead of prophecies or just do Fractions? Or maybe just take prophecies and lvl another class?

Snipe Dog · Oct 15, 2006, 01:00 PM // 13:00

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Originally Posted by Akoshi

Thanks for the answears and such but I have another "Problem". Everyone says Prophecies is the greatest to start with right? But in prophecies you can't be assassin and that was the class I was thiking the most of =P

So then I should but Nightfall instead of prophecies or just do Fractions? Or maybe just take prophecies and lvl another class?

I wouldn't say prophecies was the best to start in, prophecies was the best overall i think but when i started, i felt like i was just plunged in the deep end, atleast with factoins you have Ng to guide you with the start of the game.

The Pointless · Oct 15, 2006, 01:08 PM // 13:08

Actually, more peeps claim Prophecies is the better game. It eases you in (If you remember not to leave the training area until about level 8... Sadly there are still level elitists in GW, but hitting L8 isn't hard.) plus you are rewarded for quests throughout the game with new skills.
Factions only rewards skills until a certain point in the game, then you have to buy them.
Also, the Assassin profession is a bit of a pain in the backside. They die easily in the wrong hands, which make up the majority of players, and those competent enough to play the Assassin are discriminated against for simply being an Assassin.

Snipe Dog · Oct 15, 2006, 04:15 PM // 16:15

Well put, same goes for mesmers i've noticed.

Akoshi · Oct 15, 2006, 04:42 PM // 16:42

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Originally Posted by The Pointless

Actually, more peeps claim Prophecies is the better game. It eases you in (If you remember not to leave the training area until about level 8... Sadly there are still level elitists in GW, but hitting L8 isn't hard.) plus you are rewarded for quests throughout the game with new skills.
Factions only rewards skills until a certain point in the game, then you have to buy them.
Also, the Assassin profession is a bit of a pain in the backside. They die easily in the wrong hands, which make up the majority of players, and those competent enough to play the Assassin are discriminated against for simply being an Assassin.

Reminds me of WoW Rogues =P

So I'll better get looking for another class? ^^

Do GW have some sort of "Talents" Such as wow? I'v not quite understood the thing with skills yet.. Are they just like normal spells?

The Pointless · Oct 15, 2006, 05:21 PM // 17:21

You could always start with Warrior...

As for skills, these are just skills you can use in a combat area. These can be Attacks, Spells, Rituals or just plain skills. You are limited to 8 at any one time, but you can switch them with other skills you've learned in any town or outpost.
Some skills tend to work better or only take the desired effect under certain circumstances, for example, the Gash sword Attack will only do extra damage and a Deep Wound if the target is Bleeding, otherwise only the Base damage dealt by the weapon is inflicted.

Hope this gives you a better idea

Faer · Oct 15, 2006, 05:24 PM // 17:24

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Originally Posted by Akoshi

Reminds me of WoW Rogues =P

So I'll better get looking for another class? ^^

Do GW have some sort of "Talents" Such as wow? I'v not quite understood the thing with skills yet.. Are they just like normal spells?

Personally I'm a big fan of the Assassin profession, and have been since the first days of Factions. However, it takes some thought to play one correctly. They are powerful when played right, but useless when controlled by someone who doesn't appreciate the finer arts of combat.

Guild Wars doesn't have any talents like World of Warcraft does. We get a boatload of Skills, Spells, and Signets, and that's it. With any eight of those at a time, we carve our destiny. We can't craft items (but NPC Crafters can, when we give them the materials and gold) and we can't ride mighty mounts (but who needs those, we have instant map travel!). World of Warcraft and Guild Wars are fundamentally different, so if you start playing Guild Wars, please remember that it's a whole new world. Forget what you have learned, and experience the joys of being a newbie.

Akoshi · Oct 15, 2006, 05:38 PM // 17:38

Wich one would you suggest to start with? Prophecies, Fraction or wiat for Nightfall? =P

The Pointless · Oct 15, 2006, 05:42 PM // 17:42

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Originally Posted by Akoshi

Wich one would you suggest to start with? Prophecies, Fraction or wiat for Nightfall? =P

It's F a c t i o n s. (Sorry to sound patronising, but...)

I would go for Prophecies. Nightfall is apparently intended to tie up some loose ends left by the first two, so you may as well, find out the prior story.

Akoshi · Oct 15, 2006, 05:52 PM // 17:52

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Originally Posted by The Pointless

It's F a c t i o n s. (Sorry to sound patronising, but...)

I'v been wondering for that a while ^^ If it was Fractions or Factions =P anyway, When I look on the skills for each class it says it costs "Energy" and "Adrenaline", however if I look on screenshots I can only see two bars, assuming blue is energy and red is health, where is Adrenaline? =P

Faer · Oct 15, 2006, 06:07 PM // 18:07

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Originally Posted by Akoshi

I'v been wondering for that a while ^^ If it was Fractions or Factions =P anyway, When I look on the skills for each class it says it costs "Energy" and "Adrenaline", however if I look on screenshots I can only see two bars, assuming blue is energy and red is health, where is Adrenaline? =P

Ah, that's an excellent question! You see, Adrenaline doesn't have its own bar. Each adrenaline skill starts out a certain faded shade, and as you gain adrenaline, it is filled with an interesting flaming effect. When the skill is ready to use, you will see the icon in full color.

Many people have requested an adrenaline bar, but because of the way adrenaline works, that's not really possible.

Commander Ryker · Oct 15, 2006, 10:22 PM // 22:22

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Originally Posted by Nickhimself

Terrible. It's like WoW, in the sense that a lot of people are jerks for absolutely no reason, call everyone noobs, and constantly demean others for their skill levels. Yes, you will probably meet some decent people in GW, just like in WoW. Unfortunately, for the most part, these people are moms, dads, or anyone over the age of 20. Sorry, but it's true. Anyone disagreeing is lucky to have talked to someone in the game who was under 20 and didn't end up stealing / lying / guild-quitting for no reason other than they wanted to own a town in a bigger alliance / scam / or anything else immature players get themselves into (can anyone say "trying to hit on people over general in Lion's Arch"?)

Why is it unfortunate that the polite people are moms and dads? I will admit that I'm a mom, but I'm also a gamer and I've been a gamer since video games came in to being.

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Originally Posted by bart

there are no mages that can wear heavy armor. if u go casters u will be a squishie. ur AoE spells will make monsters run away thus nobody uses them and those who do get flamed. prepare urself to go warrior as it is the easiest and fun way to go.

Only firestorm makes them run away. As someone else stated Meteor Shower not only hurts them bad, but knocks them down. While they are getting knoced down, you can do other aoe spells to them and they can't run. As far as warrior being more fun, that's a matter of opinion. I have a warrior and I play him the least. I have way more fun with my ranger, necro and ele.

To the OP, I love this game. There's always something to do, be it quests, or doing stuff to complete titles. It's all good. The best thing about GW is that they do stuff for us that is way cool and they really don't have to do. Like on some of the major US holidays, there's always a similar like holiday in game and you get cool free stuff. Last Halloween, we got pumpkin helms. Yes, you had to be on at certain times to get it, but it was available to everyone. On Christmas, we got antlers or Santa hats plus some other cool fun weapons and things. They also decorate some area's for the holiday. Also, they are the only game I've ever seen that listen to the players and try to implement idea's in to the game. ANet is freaking awesome and I will continue to play this game as long as is possible. I'll probably end up dying at my computer, playing Guild Wars, trying to complete a mission or something. lol

sixdartbart · Oct 15, 2006, 11:02 PM // 23:02

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Originally Posted by Commander Ryker

I have a warrior and I play him the least.

Thats because you hit like a girl

J/K

It may be true that in GWs - pretty much like anywhere else - there are tons of jerks (I'm sure you figured that out just by some of the people who posted here already)
But if you meet enough people eventually you will meet up with some of the really kick ass people like the one I quoted above

Oct 14, 2006, 08:34 PM // 20:34	#61
Snipe Dog Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Scotland Guild: Guildless as of yet Profession: R/E	I noticed everybody was saying he should be a warrior elementalist if he wanted to be a "battle mage". Well what about a warrior mesmer or a warrior necromancer or even a derfish when nightfall comes out. Is that a bad choice?

Oct 14, 2006, 09:29 PM // 21:29	#62
The Pointless Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Stuck in the UK Guild: Rage International [RAGE] Profession: W/Me	I figure battle mages in WoW use similar magic types to the Elementalist profession. In terms of dmg types, Mesmers are limited to one (Chaos), Necros 2 (Cold and Dark) and the Dervish have their Wind and Earth Prayers.

Oct 14, 2006, 09:49 PM // 21:49	#64
Akoshi Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Oct 2006	I was also wondering about starting with GW, at the moment playing WoW but getting kinda bored, writing here so I would spare everyone for an extra thread. Im kinda getting confused of what everyone is writing so here is my questions: 1. Can you have more than one character on an account? 2. Whats the diffrence between Fractions, Nightfall and Prophecies? Please do write so normal mortals can understand it ^^ 3. Can I attack other players/they attack me if I wander into enemy territory? 4. Can you invade "enemy" towns to change the borders between the two groups? 5. How does the "Battegrounds" work? 6. In WoW guilds the people in the guild Raid instances etc. Is there anything special guilds here can do?

Oct 15, 2006, 07:50 AM // 07:50	#68
Akoshi Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Oct 2006	Thanks for the answears and such but I have another "Problem". Everyone says Prophecies is the greatest to start with right? But in prophecies you can't be assassin and that was the class I was thiking the most of =P So then I should but Nightfall instead of prophecies or just do Fractions? Or maybe just take prophecies and lvl another class?

Oct 15, 2006, 01:08 PM // 13:08	#70
The Pointless Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Stuck in the UK Guild: Rage International [RAGE] Profession: W/Me	Actually, more peeps claim Prophecies is the better game. It eases you in (If you remember not to leave the training area until about level 8... Sadly there are still level elitists in GW, but hitting L8 isn't hard.) plus you are rewarded for quests throughout the game with new skills. Factions only rewards skills until a certain point in the game, then you have to buy them. Also, the Assassin profession is a bit of a pain in the backside. They die easily in the wrong hands, which make up the majority of players, and those competent enough to play the Assassin are discriminated against for simply being an Assassin.

Oct 15, 2006, 04:15 PM // 16:15	#71
Snipe Dog Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Scotland Guild: Guildless as of yet Profession: R/E	Well put, same goes for mesmers i've noticed.

Oct 15, 2006, 05:21 PM // 17:21	#73
The Pointless Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Stuck in the UK Guild: Rage International [RAGE] Profession: W/Me	You could always start with Warrior... As for skills, these are just skills you can use in a combat area. These can be Attacks, Spells, Rituals or just plain skills. You are limited to 8 at any one time, but you can switch them with other skills you've learned in any town or outpost. Some skills tend to work better or only take the desired effect under certain circumstances, for example, the Gash sword Attack will only do extra damage and a Deep Wound if the target is Bleeding, otherwise only the Base damage dealt by the weapon is inflicted. Hope this gives you a better idea

Oct 15, 2006, 05:38 PM // 17:38	#75
Akoshi Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Oct 2006	Wich one would you suggest to start with? Prophecies, Fraction or wiat for Nightfall? =P