? about -5 energy mods - Guild Wars Forums

james jean · Nov 10, 2006, 06:13 AM // 06:13

So as you know there are -5 energy mods for various weapons. I was wondering, i have a gothic sword with that -5 energy and wanted to know if there's a way to get rid of it. If it helps the stats are the following:

15-22 (req8)
15% always
-5 energy
lengthens poison duration 33%
+5 armor

i just want to know if there's a way to get rid of that -5 energy mod. Thank you in advance.

-.- · Nov 10, 2006, 06:16 AM // 06:16

You can't, unless it was dropped from a monster in Elona (which I doubt).

Chuba · Nov 10, 2006, 06:22 AM // 06:22

The -5 Energy is actually part of the damage mod. The whole mod is: "+15% damage, -5 Energy" There are other variations such as "+15% Damage while your health is over 50%" and "+15% damage, -10 armor" and many more, so even if that weapon were Elonian (which I doubt as it's a Gothic skinned sword, only found in Cantha), the -5 energy would be a part of the Damage mod inscription so removing it would remove the +15% damage part too.

james jean · Nov 10, 2006, 06:28 AM // 06:28

oh well, thank you for the help you two. BUT if i were to go aobut getting rid of the dam mod; would it be possible/ is there a mod such as 15% dam always?

ZenRgy · Nov 10, 2006, 06:35 AM // 06:35

They do exist BUT they only dropped in beta IIRC and are extremely rare/expensive since there are very few. (Only seen one)

Faer · Nov 10, 2006, 06:50 AM // 06:50

Weapons with inherent unconditional +15% Damage modifiers are priceless. Not so much as that there is no monetary value, more in that nobody can really hope to afford a weapon that has one unless they sell their house and children.

Phoenix Arrows · Nov 10, 2006, 06:52 AM // 06:52

Unless it has an Inscription, you can't. If it has an Inscription, you can either overwrite the Inscription or Salvage it out.

Just so you know, Gothic Swords are Canthan and thus have no Inscriptions.

eightyfour-onesevenfive · Nov 10, 2006, 09:47 AM // 09:47

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Originally Posted by Faer

Weapons with inherent unconditional +15% Damage modifiers are priceless. Not so much as that there is no monetary value, more in that nobody can really hope to afford a weapon that has one unless they sell their house and children.

To my knowledge, ther is no such thing as a truely unconditional Damage modifier. They always come with some sort of drawback, be it while health is above/below 50%, while hexed/enchanted/in a stance, -5 energy, -10 armor while attacking, -1 health regeneration, etc...

A weapon with an unconditional damage bonus would be clearly more powerful than any other weapon (at least if the damage bonus was of the same height), and as such a balance issue.

ZenRgy · Nov 10, 2006, 10:04 AM // 10:04

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Originally Posted by eightyfour-onesevenfive

To my knowledge, ther is no such thing as a truely unconditional Damage modifier. They always come with some sort of drawback, be it while health is above/below 50%, while hexed/enchanted/in a stance, -5 energy, -10 armor while attacking, -1 health regeneration, etc...

A weapon with an unconditional damage bonus would be clearly more powerful than any other weapon (at least if the damage bonus was of the same height), and as such a balance issue.

One was being sold in High End about a month or so ago - and people have posted screenshots of 14% unconditional weapons, maybe they were photoshopped but I don't think so.

Caelus The Fallen · Nov 10, 2006, 05:33 PM // 17:33

As I recall, they came to exist as a result of a bug - its was damage +15%, energy regen -1. Coupled with a Zealous mod they were coming out 15%, +1e on hit, energy regen -1 (should have been -2 but wasnt). Replacing the Zealous mod took all the regen penalties away leaving an unconditional/unpenalised 15%.

LightningHell · Nov 11, 2006, 07:36 AM // 07:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by eightyfour-onesevenfive

To my knowledge, ther is no such thing as a truely unconditional Damage modifier. They always come with some sort of drawback, be it while health is above/below 50%, while hexed/enchanted/in a stance, -5 energy, -10 armor while attacking, -1 health regeneration, etc...

A weapon with an unconditional damage bonus would be clearly more powerful than any other weapon (at least if the damage bonus was of the same height), and as such a balance issue.

I believe they were dropped in the early stages of the game, and removed later. Hence the lack of them now, and the consequent high prices.

VGJustice · Nov 11, 2006, 08:03 AM // 08:03

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Originally Posted by Caelus The Fallen

As I recall, they came to exist as a result of a bug - its was damage +15%, energy regen -1. Coupled with a Zealous mod they were coming out 15%, +1e on hit, energy regen -1 (should have been -2 but wasnt). Replacing the Zealous mod took all the regen penalties away leaving an unconditional/unpenalised 15%.

This is correct. This resulted in a slim handful of weapons with a +damage mod and NO negative at all. These are not the same things as the current unconditional mods, which are +15/-5e and +15/-10AL.

Anarion Silverhand · Nov 11, 2006, 09:10 AM // 09:10

A guildie of mine has a req 8 15% Unconditional Gladius. Last I checked, the bid was 600 ecto's.

So to sum up, there is no way to get rid of the drawback, unless the item is dropped in Elona, where you can replace the inscription.

Nov 10, 2006, 06:13 AM // 06:13	#1
james jean Krytan Explorer Join Date: Nov 2006	? about -5 energy mods So as you know there are -5 energy mods for various weapons. I was wondering, i have a gothic sword with that -5 energy and wanted to know if there's a way to get rid of it. If it helps the stats are the following: 15-22 (req8) 15% always -5 energy lengthens poison duration 33% +5 armor i just want to know if there's a way to get rid of that -5 energy mod. Thank you in advance.

Nov 10, 2006, 06:50 AM // 06:50	#6
Faer La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo Join Date: Feb 2006	Weapons with inherent unconditional +15% Damage modifiers are priceless. Not so much as that there is no monetary value, more in that nobody can really hope to afford a weapon that has one unless they sell their house and children. __________________ Stay Breezy

Nov 10, 2006, 06:16 AM // 06:16	#2
-.- Banned Join Date: Oct 2006	You can't, unless it was dropped from a monster in Elona (which I doubt).

Nov 10, 2006, 06:22 AM // 06:22	#3
Chuba Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Finland Guild: New Dragons [NDR]	The -5 Energy is actually part of the damage mod. The whole mod is: "+15% damage, -5 Energy" There are other variations such as "+15% Damage while your health is over 50%" and "+15% damage, -10 armor" and many more, so even if that weapon were Elonian (which I doubt as it's a Gothic skinned sword, only found in Cantha), the -5 energy would be a part of the Damage mod inscription so removing it would remove the +15% damage part too.

Nov 10, 2006, 06:28 AM // 06:28	#4
james jean Krytan Explorer Join Date: Nov 2006	oh well, thank you for the help you two. BUT if i were to go aobut getting rid of the dam mod; would it be possible/ is there a mod such as 15% dam always?

Nov 10, 2006, 06:35 AM // 06:35	#5
ZenRgy Zookeeper Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Australian Discussion Posse HQ - Glorious leader Guild: ҉ ̵̡̢̢̛̛̛̖̗̘̙̜̝̞̟&# Profession: N/E	They do exist BUT they only dropped in beta IIRC and are extremely rare/expensive since there are very few. (Only seen one)

Nov 10, 2006, 06:52 AM // 06:52	#7
Phoenix Arrows Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: With many other ugly people Guild: We Are All Pretty [ugly] Profession: R/	Unless it has an Inscription, you can't. If it has an Inscription, you can either overwrite the Inscription or Salvage it out. Just so you know, Gothic Swords are Canthan and thus have no Inscriptions.

Nov 10, 2006, 05:33 PM // 17:33	#10
Caelus The Fallen Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005 Location: Glasgow Guild: Voice of the Darkness Profession: E/Mo	As I recall, they came to exist as a result of a bug - its was damage +15%, energy regen -1. Coupled with a Zealous mod they were coming out 15%, +1e on hit, energy regen -1 (should have been -2 but wasnt). Replacing the Zealous mod took all the regen penalties away leaving an unconditional/unpenalised 15%.

Nov 11, 2006, 09:10 AM // 09:10	#13
Anarion Silverhand Desert Nomad Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Denmark Guild: None	A guildie of mine has a req 8 15% Unconditional Gladius. Last I checked, the bid was 600 ecto's. So to sum up, there is no way to get rid of the drawback, unless the item is dropped in Elona, where you can replace the inscription.