Derish or ritualist?? - Guild Wars Forums

Maromi · Dec 01, 2006, 11:17 PM // 23:17

as my first character do you think i would enjoy the female derivish or the female ritualist bette??

Thanks in advance

Pkest · Dec 02, 2006, 12:48 AM // 00:48

Depends on how you think you'd like to play. If you like to run in and hit stuff then dervish. If you prefer to hang back and do more support/cerebral stuff then rit might be more fun for you.

Could always start both and alternate between them for a while if you aren't sure. In any case welcome to GW and have fun.

Ole Man Bourbon · Dec 02, 2006, 02:02 AM // 02:02

Ritualist is a useful class in PvE, and is in higher demand than Dervishes atm due to Nightfall's release. They make decent farmers, too.

Elemental Cotton · Dec 02, 2006, 02:27 AM // 02:27

Since Nightfall just came out, there will be more Dervishes than Ritualists. I'd recommend starting with a Ritualist.

Toutatis · Dec 02, 2006, 12:37 PM // 12:37

I would suggest trying them both, to see how you like them. Everyone has different playing styles and can find certain professions more fun and/or easier to handle than others (playing a ranger just confuses me while playing a mesmer is almost instinctive to me, for example). You never have to limit yourself to a single character, so play around and see how each of the professions suit you

Maromi · Dec 02, 2006, 07:11 PM // 19:11

so what do you mean by farmer??

fallot · Dec 02, 2006, 08:59 PM // 20:59

Dervish.

Kamatsu · Dec 02, 2006, 09:04 PM // 21:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maromi

so what do you mean by farmer??

Farming is the act of killing critter's for their drops - find a few select group's of critter's and keep wiping them out for their drops. Thus "farming" their drops and making some money.

For more info on farming, and farming build's, and places to farm.. check out the Farming forum:

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/f...play.php?f=234

However, my advice would be to ignore farming untill you have completed the game at least once. You won't need to farm for gold to buy what you need through the game - Farming for gold is only really needed when your looking for end-game content.. ie 15K armor's, max perfect gold weapon's, etc.

Edit - Please be polite people. You might think it's "stupid" to post a thread like this, but please don't be rude or insulting or your post's will be deleted.

Epinephrine · Dec 03, 2006, 03:49 AM // 03:49

I think Dervish appeals to many more people, though I personally prefer Ritualist by far. I'll agree with Pkest and Toutatis; invest a bit of time in both, enough to get a bit of a feel for them, then decide which you like (or if you like both).

Torikae · Dec 03, 2006, 01:52 PM // 13:52

If you're playing PvE, it may also be a good idea to start both out and alternate between them since they begin in different areas (well, different campaigns), so you shouldn't get bored of doing the same stuff twice over, either.
...If you're playing PvP... ignore what I just said

grikdog · Dec 03, 2006, 03:15 PM // 15:15

I think ritualist. I just started my dervish and I have to say a beginning dervish seems to be a rather weak character. Now my guildmates tell me it gets better as they level but Im not enjoying dervish all that much.

Sir Twisteh · Dec 03, 2006, 09:19 PM // 21:19

Ritualist!

w00t! · Dec 03, 2006, 11:50 PM // 23:50

If this is your first character, then I'd suggest a Dervish over a Ritualist. The reason is that Dervishes cause direct damage, and Ritualists either cause indirect damage or none, as they are often support characters. There is a branch of magic for Ritualists called Channeling, but it is rather weak, and not much call for Channeling Ritualists exists in Guild Wars (that is, groups will always want you to be either a summoner or a restoration ritualist).

Dervishes have a bad rap because, like Assassins before them (and warriors before assassins), most people don't know how to play them well. Played correctly, Dervishes are almost as good as warriors at surviving (tanking), and can deal more damage whilst surviving. People will probably quote you all sorts of dps calculations to prove me wrong, but I'm talking about the ability to stay alive while dealing damage, not being completely offensive.

Having said all this junk, most people find it more entertaining for their first character to press a key and watch something die (dervish), rather than pressing a key that summons something that kills the bad guy for you.

oinkers · Dec 04, 2006, 12:03 AM // 00:03

I'd say choose a Dervish because the Rits have been nerfed so hard it's not funny anymore. The only thing Rits are good for are situational solo farming and where's the fun in that?

Rit's dont do anything as well as the core classes, so they're never ever first choices in a team. They might have been useful for support once, but since most spirits takes an insane amount of energy to cast and last a few seconds only, they can't even do back support. The rit is dead, get a monk hero instead.

Thilarin · Dec 04, 2006, 06:31 AM // 06:31

like others have said, it all depends on wat ur playing type is like...but to add onto the dervish is that since the Droks run has been nerfed very few can make it...i just did a test run and a dervish came with us...she got farther than th WHOLE group before dying, didnt make it all the way but still...it was a good run...so if ur thinkin about that in the future...go with dervish...but sythes just ROCK!!!

<-Two-bit_mathews-> · Dec 04, 2006, 06:50 AM // 06:50

I dont like any of the two but the most fun is the Dervish once u level up and get skills.. eitherwards Rit is better itsa toss up.

Dec 01, 2006, 11:17 PM // 23:17	#1
Maromi Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Dec 2006	Derish or ritualist?? as my first character do you think i would enjoy the female derivish or the female ritualist bette?? Thanks in advance

Dec 02, 2006, 12:48 AM // 00:48	#2
Pkest Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: May 2006 Guild: Hooded Reavers of Eternal Life(Ankh) Profession: R/	Depends on how you think you'd like to play. If you like to run in and hit stuff then dervish. If you prefer to hang back and do more support/cerebral stuff then rit might be more fun for you. Could always start both and alternate between them for a while if you aren't sure. In any case welcome to GW and have fun.

Dec 02, 2006, 02:02 AM // 02:02	#3
Ole Man Bourbon Jungle Guide Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Atlanta Guild: GONG Profession: W/E	Ritualist is a useful class in PvE, and is in higher demand than Dervishes atm due to Nightfall's release. They make decent farmers, too.

Dec 02, 2006, 02:27 AM // 02:27	#4
Elemental Cotton Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Nov 2006 Profession: E/Mo	Since Nightfall just came out, there will be more Dervishes than Ritualists. I'd recommend starting with a Ritualist.

Dec 02, 2006, 12:37 PM // 12:37	#5
Toutatis Walking Wiki Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Isle of Medication Guild: Visitors from Aranna [VFA] Profession: Me/E	I would suggest trying them both, to see how you like them. Everyone has different playing styles and can find certain professions more fun and/or easier to handle than others (playing a ranger just confuses me while playing a mesmer is almost instinctive to me, for example). You never have to limit yourself to a single character, so play around and see how each of the professions suit you

Dec 02, 2006, 07:11 PM // 19:11	#6
Maromi Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Dec 2006	so what do you mean by farmer??

Dec 02, 2006, 08:59 PM // 20:59	#7
fallot I'm the king Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Aussie Trolling Crew: Grand Phallus and Chairman Pro Tempore	Dervish.

Dec 03, 2006, 03:49 AM // 03:49	#9
Epinephrine Master of Beasts Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Ottawa, Canada Guild: Servants of Fortuna [SoF]	I think Dervish appeals to many more people, though I personally prefer Ritualist by far. I'll agree with Pkest and Toutatis; invest a bit of time in both, enough to get a bit of a feel for them, then decide which you like (or if you like both).

Dec 03, 2006, 01:52 PM // 13:52	#10
Torikae Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: UK Profession: Rt/	If you're playing PvE, it may also be a good idea to start both out and alternate between them since they begin in different areas (well, different campaigns), so you shouldn't get bored of doing the same stuff twice over, either. ...If you're playing PvP... ignore what I just said

Dec 03, 2006, 03:15 PM // 15:15	#11
grikdog Academy Page Join Date: Dec 2005	I think ritualist. I just started my dervish and I have to say a beginning dervish seems to be a rather weak character. Now my guildmates tell me it gets better as they level but Im not enjoying dervish all that much.

Dec 03, 2006, 09:19 PM // 21:19	#12
Sir Twisteh Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Aug 2006 Guild: Dreaming Angels [DA] Profession: W/N	Ritualist!

Dec 03, 2006, 11:50 PM // 23:50	#13
w00t! Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Sorrow's Furnace Hot Tub Guild: RoS Profession: Mo/Me	If this is your first character, then I'd suggest a Dervish over a Ritualist. The reason is that Dervishes cause direct damage, and Ritualists either cause indirect damage or none, as they are often support characters. There is a branch of magic for Ritualists called Channeling, but it is rather weak, and not much call for Channeling Ritualists exists in Guild Wars (that is, groups will always want you to be either a summoner or a restoration ritualist). Dervishes have a bad rap because, like Assassins before them (and warriors before assassins), most people don't know how to play them well. Played correctly, Dervishes are almost as good as warriors at surviving (tanking), and can deal more damage whilst surviving. People will probably quote you all sorts of dps calculations to prove me wrong, but I'm talking about the ability to stay alive while dealing damage, not being completely offensive. Having said all this junk, most people find it more entertaining for their first character to press a key and watch something die (dervish), rather than pressing a key that summons something that kills the bad guy for you.

Dec 04, 2006, 12:03 AM // 00:03	#14
oinkers Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Dec 2006	I'd say choose a Dervish because the Rits have been nerfed so hard it's not funny anymore. The only thing Rits are good for are situational solo farming and where's the fun in that? Rit's dont do anything as well as the core classes, so they're never ever first choices in a team. They might have been useful for support once, but since most spirits takes an insane amount of energy to cast and last a few seconds only, they can't even do back support. The rit is dead, get a monk hero instead.

Dec 04, 2006, 06:31 AM // 06:31	#15
Thilarin Academy Page Join Date: Jul 2005 Profession: W/	like others have said, it all depends on wat ur playing type is like...but to add onto the dervish is that since the Droks run has been nerfed very few can make it...i just did a test run and a dervish came with us...she got farther than th WHOLE group before dying, didnt make it all the way but still...it was a good run...so if ur thinkin about that in the future...go with dervish...but sythes just ROCK!!!

Dec 04, 2006, 06:50 AM // 06:50	#16
<-Two-bit_mathews-> Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Dec 2006 Profession: W/Me	I dont like any of the two but the most fun is the Dervish once u level up and get skills.. eitherwards Rit is better itsa toss up.