Riposte & Deadly Riposte - Guild Wars Forums

beliserius · Jan 08, 2007, 02:07 AM // 02:07

The skill [skill]Riposte[/skill] and the [skill]Deadly Riposte[/skill] Is very hard to counter using a warrior build, i have searched everwhere but nowhere has any answers.
I am talking about a 1 on 1 situation between a character with 2 riposte and the other does not, how do i counter it?
I know [skill]Soothing Images[/skill] would counter Riposte but drains energy and is 1 less skill for offence while leaving deadly riposte still well... deadly.
Please post some ideas, thx.

Would [skill]Reversal of Fortune[/skill] help?

What suggested that doesnt work:
Distracting blow (no casting time)
Wild Blow (Not stance)
Any defensive skills (ignors armor and can not be blocked)

I pwnd U · Jan 08, 2007, 02:09 AM // 02:09

Wild Blow. Removes a stance from target foe.

GG Deadly riptose, Wild Blow pwns it.

False Truth · Jan 08, 2007, 02:15 AM // 02:15

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Originally Posted by I pwnd U

Wild Blow. Removes a stance from target foe.

GG Deadly riptose, Wild Blow pwns it.

Ripostes aren't stances. And the damage still goes through you from Wild blow. Because of this, they have no actual counter(well, at least one doesn't)

Mesmer in Need · Jan 08, 2007, 02:26 AM // 02:26

it only affects melee attacks. if u can find a way to kd them, it would delay them. pure/ jahuzen(sp?) strike go through the riposites, but you will still take dmg. if all else fails, change your secondary to ranger and poison him with a bow.

whobitz · Jan 08, 2007, 02:28 AM // 02:28

Diversion? Not that you'd wanna put that on a warrior.

Jedimagician · Jan 08, 2007, 02:32 AM // 02:32

go w/me and bring IW

False Truth · Jan 08, 2007, 04:34 AM // 04:34

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Originally Posted by Jedimagician

go w/me and bring IW

Ripostes and Auspicious Parry still work against IW, since it's "next attack" and not "next hit".

VGJustice · Jan 08, 2007, 04:42 AM // 04:42

maybe the real counter is to just use a normal attack. Riposte doesn't deal a lot of damage by itself, so you could just remove it with a regular attack then commence with the spike.

-.- · Jan 08, 2007, 04:59 AM // 04:59

Blackout and Crippling Anguish.

heist23 · Jan 08, 2007, 05:07 AM // 05:07

They're not exactly counterable, as far as i know. the damage will still be applied no matter what you do. you'll just have to take the damage and try to kill him before he can kill you. and considering that he's wasted two slots on these skills, you probably will be able to.

Hand of Ruin · Jan 08, 2007, 05:09 AM // 05:09

obviously the counter is mending.

Shadow Slave · Jan 08, 2007, 05:09 AM // 05:09

Personally? If i dont decide to just attack through them, and get them out the way...then I just wait the 8 seconds until they wear off....spend this time on self heals perhaps...or kiting.

Ok Deadly Riposte recharges fairly quickly.....but also costs 5 energy...which depending on the stage in battle, isnt always available to your opponent Warrior.

Meanwhile, if u have been kiting...say bye bye adrenaline & riposte.

then again...its not that much dmg from Deadly riposte..so if its the bleeding you're worried about, then Plague Touch has always been a friend of mine.

Rabbit28 · Jan 08, 2007, 07:27 AM // 07:27

i thought i could take on my riposte using friend but he kicked my sorry butt

but if i were you, id bring SV and AV, they cant raise adreneline and they lose energy, only issue would be your energy management but give it a try

make sure you have enough illusion magic

Coridan · Jan 08, 2007, 12:18 PM // 12:18

get a wand or bow...back off(kite) but continue to attack from range thus still dealing damage and building energy/adren depending on weapon mods etc

ShadowStorm · Jan 08, 2007, 04:39 PM // 16:39

You could always go ritualist secondary and spam [skill]Vengeful Weapon[/skill] and [skill]Weapon of Remedy[/skill].

That way, everytime one of the Ripostes goes off, it'll end up hurting the enemy warrior instead and Weapon of Remedy will take care of the bleeding for you.

ShadowsRequiem · Jan 08, 2007, 06:19 PM // 18:19

crip shot ranger

nuff said.

could always try to bring mark of protection

and frenzy spam! woooo

False Truth · Jan 08, 2007, 07:19 PM // 19:19

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Originally Posted by Shadow Slave

then again...its not that much dmg from Deadly riposte..so if its the bleeding you're worried about, then Plague Touch has always been a friend of mine.

70-90 armor ignoring damage is a hell of a lot, for anyone. Combining both, deals a very hefty amount of damage to your foe, and this isn't even counting attack skills, or a skill like Auspicious parry(My favorite, PVE wise) which could potentially recharge riposte in one block.

And about the "still taking a lot of damage while using riposte". Considering it was you vs a melee opponent, you should always time your ripostes so that they probably block attack skills instead of just attacks, it's just a bigger benefit.

Mesmer in Need · Jan 08, 2007, 08:09 PM // 20:09

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Originally Posted by ShadowStorm

You could always go ritualist secondary and spam [skill]Vengeful Weapon[/skill] and [skill]Weapon of Remedy[/skill].

That way, everytime one of the Ripostes goes off, it'll end up hurting the enemy warrior instead and Weapon of Remedy will take care of the bleeding for you.

to think of it, vengefull and the riposites work in the same way. so, in theory whoever had the most powerful attributes, whether in tactics or restoration, they would win.

blakecraw · Jan 08, 2007, 08:55 PM // 20:55

It would be a lot of weapon swapping (and maybe not very efficient) but you can take an extra weapon set with a wand or spear, then when they use riposte use that on them, because then you won't take any damage, and I'm pretty sure that that'll remove the riposte. After removing riposte you simply switch back to your main weapon and keep hacking away until they use riposte again. This will be pretty slow against somebody who has both ripostes, but it would work.

Some of the ripostes are bound to get to you before you wand them off, but it should help with a lot of the damage.

DeanBB · Jan 08, 2007, 09:02 PM // 21:02

Both Riposte and Deadly Riposte trigger on melee attacks. They do expire if not triggered though.

Remember that while you're dinking around with a wand the enemy warrior is still attacking you with his sword, including whatever elite skills he has.

Jan 08, 2007, 02:07 AM // 02:07	#1
beliserius Academy Page Join Date: Jan 2007 Profession: W/Mo	Riposte & Deadly Riposte The skill [skill]Riposte[/skill] and the [skill]Deadly Riposte[/skill] Is very hard to counter using a warrior build, i have searched everwhere but nowhere has any answers. I am talking about a 1 on 1 situation between a character with 2 riposte and the other does not, how do i counter it? I know [skill]Soothing Images[/skill] would counter Riposte but drains energy and is 1 less skill for offence while leaving deadly riposte still well... deadly. Please post some ideas, thx. Would [skill]Reversal of Fortune[/skill] help? What suggested that doesnt work: Distracting blow (no casting time) Wild Blow (Not stance) Any defensive skills (ignors armor and can not be blocked) Last edited by beliserius; Jan 08, 2007 at 02:24 AM // 02:24..

Jan 08, 2007, 08:55 PM // 20:55	#19
blakecraw Krytan Explorer Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Austin, TX	It would be a lot of weapon swapping (and maybe not very efficient) but you can take an extra weapon set with a wand or spear, then when they use riposte use that on them, because then you won't take any damage, and I'm pretty sure that that'll remove the riposte. After removing riposte you simply switch back to your main weapon and keep hacking away until they use riposte again. This will be pretty slow against somebody who has both ripostes, but it would work. Some of the ripostes are bound to get to you before you wand them off, but it should help with a lot of the damage. Last edited by blakecraw; Jan 08, 2007 at 08:59 PM // 20:59..

Jan 08, 2007, 02:09 AM // 02:09	#2
I pwnd U God of Spammers Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: in the middle of a burning cornfield... Guild: Scars Meadows [SMS] (Officer)	Wild Blow. Removes a stance from target foe. GG Deadly riptose, Wild Blow pwns it.

Jan 08, 2007, 02:26 AM // 02:26	#4
Mesmer in Need Forge Runner Join Date: Mar 2006 Guild: [ToA]	it only affects melee attacks. if u can find a way to kd them, it would delay them. pure/ jahuzen(sp?) strike go through the riposites, but you will still take dmg. if all else fails, change your secondary to ranger and poison him with a bow.

Jan 08, 2007, 02:28 AM // 02:28	#5
whobitz Academy Page Join Date: Apr 2006 Profession: Mo/	Diversion? Not that you'd wanna put that on a warrior.

Jan 08, 2007, 02:32 AM // 02:32	#6
Jedimagician Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Mar 2006	go w/me and bring IW

Jan 08, 2007, 04:42 AM // 04:42	#8
VGJustice Desert Nomad Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Tyria, cappin' ur bosses Guild: Boston Guild [BG] Profession: R/W	maybe the real counter is to just use a normal attack. Riposte doesn't deal a lot of damage by itself, so you could just remove it with a regular attack then commence with the spike.

Jan 08, 2007, 04:59 AM // 04:59	#9
-.- Banned Join Date: Oct 2006	Blackout and Crippling Anguish.

Jan 08, 2007, 05:07 AM // 05:07	#10
heist23 Journeyman Join Date: Jul 2005 Profession: R/Mo	They're not exactly counterable, as far as i know. the damage will still be applied no matter what you do. you'll just have to take the damage and try to kill him before he can kill you. and considering that he's wasted two slots on these skills, you probably will be able to.

Jan 08, 2007, 05:09 AM // 05:09	#11
Hand of Ruin Banned Join Date: Jul 2006	obviously the counter is mending.

Jan 08, 2007, 05:09 AM // 05:09	#12
Shadow Slave Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: ..My home away from home.. Guild: Currently looking ~ Profession: N/	Personally? If i dont decide to just attack through them, and get them out the way...then I just wait the 8 seconds until they wear off....spend this time on self heals perhaps...or kiting. Ok Deadly Riposte recharges fairly quickly.....but also costs 5 energy...which depending on the stage in battle, isnt always available to your opponent Warrior. Meanwhile, if u have been kiting...say bye bye adrenaline & riposte. then again...its not that much dmg from Deadly riposte..so if its the bleeding you're worried about, then Plague Touch has always been a friend of mine.

Jan 08, 2007, 07:27 AM // 07:27	#13
Rabbit28 Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: College Guild: The Royal Dragon Riders [TRDR] Profession: W/	i thought i could take on my riposte using friend but he kicked my sorry butt but if i were you, id bring SV and AV, they cant raise adreneline and they lose energy, only issue would be your energy management but give it a try make sure you have enough illusion magic

Jan 08, 2007, 12:18 PM // 12:18	#14
Coridan Forge Runner Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: US Guild: Old Married Gamers {OMG} Profession: W/	get a wand or bow...back off(kite) but continue to attack from range thus still dealing damage and building energy/adren depending on weapon mods etc

Jan 08, 2007, 04:39 PM // 16:39	#15
ShadowStorm Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: May 2005 Location: Take me where I cannot stand. Guild: The Better Part of Valor Profession: W/N	You could always go ritualist secondary and spam [skill]Vengeful Weapon[/skill] and [skill]Weapon of Remedy[/skill]. That way, everytime one of the Ripostes goes off, it'll end up hurting the enemy warrior instead and Weapon of Remedy will take care of the bleeding for you.

Jan 08, 2007, 06:19 PM // 18:19	#16
ShadowsRequiem Furnace Stoker Join Date: Oct 2005 Guild: Inde is Smoking [Hawt] ToA Profession: W/E	crip shot ranger nuff said. could always try to bring mark of protection and frenzy spam! woooo

Jan 08, 2007, 09:02 PM // 21:02	#20
DeanBB Forge Runner Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Arizona Guild: Wizardry Players Guild, http://4guildwars.7.forumer.com	Both Riposte and Deadly Riposte trigger on melee attacks. They do expire if not triggered though. Remember that while you're dinking around with a wand the enemy warrior is still attacking you with his sword, including whatever elite skills he has.