Acolyte Jin or Student Sousuke? - Page 2 - Guild Wars Forums

Shadowfox1125 · Jan 14, 2007, 10:59 AM // 10:59

Took Sousuke on my Paragon because of [card]Searing Flames[/card] and [card]"They're On Fire!"[/card]

And I took Jin on my warrior.

pixiLated · Jan 14, 2007, 02:27 PM // 14:27

With my warrior and ele I chose Jin, with my ranger I chose Sousuke.

Choices were influenced by the hero choice Magrid/MoW that I knew I would make and knowing that I would have to have Zhed as a compulsory.

Swamprob · Jan 14, 2007, 07:07 PM // 19:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrTumnus

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What I like to do with Jin is lock her on the healers and fight the others ......

How do you do this? How do you direct a hero to a specific target while you and other heroes fight another?

Sasuke The Betrayer · Jan 14, 2007, 07:18 PM // 19:18

There should be a target sign (Like a scope sign) somewhere in the hero bar. Target the enemy and then with the hero you want, click the target box for them to agressively attack that enemy you did. It works well

Jedimagician · Jan 15, 2007, 04:18 AM // 04:18

on my first char though nf i bought jin with broad head arrow, then when i discovered sf, i chose souske for the rest of my chars

Envious · Jan 17, 2007, 07:34 AM // 07:34

I'd rather go with Sousuke first as he can be a good Nuker, SF spammer early in the game. As everyone has mentioned, you can get Zhed, the elementalist, or Magrid, the ranger, so either way, you get both. Win - Win situation.

N E D M · Jan 17, 2007, 09:54 AM // 09:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Envious

I'd rather go with Sousuke first as he can be a good Nuker, SF spammer early in the game. As everyone has mentioned, you can get Zhed, the elementalist, or Magrid, the ranger, so either way, you get both. Win - Win situation.

You Misread.
You choose between souske and jin, Zhed you get no matter what, Then u must choose between Master of whispers (necro) and margid the sly. So you can miss out on ranger.

SotiCoto · Jan 17, 2007, 07:54 PM // 19:54

I took Sousuke for three reasons:
#1. He looks cooler.
#2. I have some kind of inherant bias against Rangers and Warriors.
#3. He has the same name as the protagonist from Full Metal Panic.

Really... thats it.

It doesn't matter anyway since he is still the same level he was at when I first got him. I've NEVER used him. My hero party is pretty much consistantly formed of Tahlkora (healer), Olias (MM) and Dunkoro (healer)... in that order. I very occasionally swap one of them out for Zenmai if I want another spiker (I <3 assassins, and bite my thumb at anyone who sneers at the idea of two assassins in a team). The very notion of using anyone else is anathema to me.... I mean... I need the healing.... and those delightful, undead, decapitated emus we know as Bone Fiends take care of ranged attack.

That said... when it comes to the Master of Whispers or Ranger B!tch choice... I'll make my decision based on which is the least common choice (so it'll be easier to team up with people to get to the other areas later)... as I have no intention of actually using either of them more than necessary.

hallomik · Jan 18, 2007, 01:46 AM // 01:46

Honestly, this would depend on my character???s primary profession and whether or not I had Prophesies.

Why? Because both interrupting and nuking are of secondary importance to minion mastering. In fact, while there are many exceptions to this rule, in general, MM > Nuking > Interrupting. Obviously, some missions are much easier with good interrupts, so this is only a general PVE rule.

If I have Prophesies, I get Olias as my MM before leaving Istan and skip Master of Whispers. I do this because I much prefer the missions you get with Margrid over the Master of Whispers ones. Because I know I will get an interrupter soon enough with Margrid, I choose Sousuke and equip him with SF. I think a SF Nuker is normally preferred to an Interrupting Ranger anyway because, let???s face it, death is the ultimate interrupt. Understood this way, Sousuke will do plenty of ???interrupting.??? Two nukers when Zhed comes along are nice, too. Think about what happens when you fight a group with two Ruby Djinns and don???t quickly take them out. Double liquid flame and searing flames = fast fights.

If I don???t have Prophesies, I must choose Master of Whispers to get an MM and I just have to accept the 2 less desirable missions. This means my only shot for a ranger is to take Jin, so that has to be the choice; some later missions are next to impossible without a good interrupter. I will get a nuker with Zhed, anyway, so I can get at least one of each of these functions (MM/Nuke/Interrupt) with this approach.

This changes somewhat if I am a primary Nec. Then, whether I have Prophesies or not, I take Sousuke. As I am the MM, I will choose Magrid over Masters which means I can skip Jin. This gives me two Nukers and one interrupter, which is more powerful and flexible than the reverse (two interrupters and one nuker if I choose Jin).

For my first character, I chose Jin (and then Master) because I wasn???t really thinking much about it. After going through the game once, I have since followed the above logic.

Franco Power · Jan 18, 2007, 01:48 AM // 01:48

Take the ele before they fix this

[skill]Searing Flames[/skill]
[skill]Sandstorm[/skill]

Tachyon · Jan 18, 2007, 03:34 AM // 03:34

Jin everytime for me! The reason? Quite simple really, the voice actor has a very sexy voice.

rong626 · Jan 18, 2007, 06:33 AM // 06:33

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Originally Posted by Retribution X

Sousuke, because having 2 eles out of 3 SF spammers is cool.

bah a searing flames user

Emik · Jan 18, 2007, 08:18 AM // 08:18

I've taken Jin 2 times and Sousuke once
Mainly becoz i've got all Ranger skills unlocked on my account.
I'm gradually starting to unlock Ele skills now so at the moment Sousuke is upgrading fast.

Also saw some ask how you get an ele to interrupt...

Psychic Frustration (slightly altered from the original one. Not sure who this belongs to again.)

[skill]Power Leak[/skill][skill]Power Spike[/skill][skill]Cry of Frustration[/skill][skill]Psychic Distraction[/skill][skill]Frustration[/skill][skill]Power Drain[/skill][skill]Drain Enchantment[/skill][skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill]

Superior Energy Storage to take it up to 14 or higher if possible
Apart from that spread your attributes between Domination and Inspiration Magic. If you can look for both Garbok's Cane and Chichor's Conundrum or either of their representative counterparts. to make sure you can let Zhed cast away like mad.

m4rk6 · Jan 18, 2007, 08:43 AM // 08:43

If that's your skill set, wouldn't you be better off using a Mes instead of an Ele?

Let me just say that I've never played ele or mes before.

*Darcy* · Jan 18, 2007, 10:12 AM // 10:12

But you don't get the choice of a mesmer hero until Vabbi area, so setting Sousuke up as an E/Me is your only choice.

Jan 14, 2007, 10:59 AM // 10:59	#21
Shadowfox1125 Forge Runner Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: PST Profession: W/	Took Sousuke on my Paragon because of [card]Searing Flames[/card] and [card]"They're On Fire!"[/card] And I took Jin on my warrior.

Jan 14, 2007, 02:27 PM // 14:27	#22
pixiLated Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Resident Gutter Dweller Guild: Shards of the Silver Moon [MooN] Profession: E/	With my warrior and ele I chose Jin, with my ranger I chose Sousuke. Choices were influenced by the hero choice Magrid/MoW that I knew I would make and knowing that I would have to have Zhed as a compulsory.

Jan 14, 2007, 07:18 PM // 19:18	#24
Sasuke The Betrayer Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Los Angeles Guild: Pink Pearl Profession: Mo/Me	There should be a target sign (Like a scope sign) somewhere in the hero bar. Target the enemy and then with the hero you want, click the target box for them to agressively attack that enemy you did. It works well

Jan 15, 2007, 04:18 AM // 04:18	#25
Jedimagician Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Mar 2006	on my first char though nf i bought jin with broad head arrow, then when i discovered sf, i chose souske for the rest of my chars

Jan 17, 2007, 07:34 AM // 07:34	#26
Envious Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: 13N/144E FoKai	I'd rather go with Sousuke first as he can be a good Nuker, SF spammer early in the game. As everyone has mentioned, you can get Zhed, the elementalist, or Magrid, the ranger, so either way, you get both. Win - Win situation.

Jan 17, 2007, 07:54 PM // 19:54	#28
SotiCoto Banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Drazach Thicket Guild: Temple of Zhen Xianren [Sifu]	I took Sousuke for three reasons: #1. He looks cooler. #2. I have some kind of inherant bias against Rangers and Warriors. #3. He has the same name as the protagonist from Full Metal Panic. Really... thats it. It doesn't matter anyway since he is still the same level he was at when I first got him. I've NEVER used him. My hero party is pretty much consistantly formed of Tahlkora (healer), Olias (MM) and Dunkoro (healer)... in that order. I very occasionally swap one of them out for Zenmai if I want another spiker (I <3 assassins, and bite my thumb at anyone who sneers at the idea of two assassins in a team). The very notion of using anyone else is anathema to me.... I mean... I need the healing.... and those delightful, undead, decapitated emus we know as Bone Fiends take care of ranged attack. That said... when it comes to the Master of Whispers or Ranger B!tch choice... I'll make my decision based on which is the least common choice (so it'll be easier to team up with people to get to the other areas later)... as I have no intention of actually using either of them more than necessary.

Jan 18, 2007, 01:46 AM // 01:46	#29
hallomik Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2006 Guild: The Illini Tribe Profession: N/Mo	Honestly, this would depend on my character???s primary profession and whether or not I had Prophesies. Why? Because both interrupting and nuking are of secondary importance to minion mastering. In fact, while there are many exceptions to this rule, in general, MM > Nuking > Interrupting. Obviously, some missions are much easier with good interrupts, so this is only a general PVE rule. If I have Prophesies, I get Olias as my MM before leaving Istan and skip Master of Whispers. I do this because I much prefer the missions you get with Margrid over the Master of Whispers ones. Because I know I will get an interrupter soon enough with Margrid, I choose Sousuke and equip him with SF. I think a SF Nuker is normally preferred to an Interrupting Ranger anyway because, let???s face it, death is the ultimate interrupt. Understood this way, Sousuke will do plenty of ???interrupting.??? Two nukers when Zhed comes along are nice, too. Think about what happens when you fight a group with two Ruby Djinns and don???t quickly take them out. Double liquid flame and searing flames = fast fights. If I don???t have Prophesies, I must choose Master of Whispers to get an MM and I just have to accept the 2 less desirable missions. This means my only shot for a ranger is to take Jin, so that has to be the choice; some later missions are next to impossible without a good interrupter. I will get a nuker with Zhed, anyway, so I can get at least one of each of these functions (MM/Nuke/Interrupt) with this approach. This changes somewhat if I am a primary Nec. Then, whether I have Prophesies or not, I take Sousuke. As I am the MM, I will choose Magrid over Masters which means I can skip Jin. This gives me two Nukers and one interrupter, which is more powerful and flexible than the reverse (two interrupters and one nuker if I choose Jin). For my first character, I chose Jin (and then Master) because I wasn???t really thinking much about it. After going through the game once, I have since followed the above logic.

Jan 18, 2007, 01:48 AM // 01:48	#30
Franco Power Jungle Guide Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: UK Profession: W/	Take the ele before they fix this [skill]Searing Flames[/skill] [skill]Sandstorm[/skill]

Jan 18, 2007, 03:34 AM // 03:34	#31
Tachyon Forge Runner Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Stoke, England Guild: The Godless [GOD] Profession: W/	Jin everytime for me! The reason? Quite simple really, the voice actor has a very sexy voice.

Jan 18, 2007, 08:18 AM // 08:18	#33
Emik Jungle Guide Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Belgium Guild: [FaRM] Farm For The Win Profession: N/	I've taken Jin 2 times and Sousuke once Mainly becoz i've got all Ranger skills unlocked on my account. I'm gradually starting to unlock Ele skills now so at the moment Sousuke is upgrading fast. Also saw some ask how you get an ele to interrupt... Psychic Frustration (slightly altered from the original one. Not sure who this belongs to again.) [skill]Power Leak[/skill][skill]Power Spike[/skill][skill]Cry of Frustration[/skill][skill]Psychic Distraction[/skill][skill]Frustration[/skill][skill]Power Drain[/skill][skill]Drain Enchantment[/skill][skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill] Superior Energy Storage to take it up to 14 or higher if possible Apart from that spread your attributes between Domination and Inspiration Magic. If you can look for both Garbok's Cane and Chichor's Conundrum or either of their representative counterparts. to make sure you can let Zhed cast away like mad.

Jan 18, 2007, 08:43 AM // 08:43	#34
m4rk6 Academy Page Join Date: Dec 2005 Guild: The Older Gamers Profession: D/	If that's your skill set, wouldn't you be better off using a Mes instead of an Ele? Let me just say that I've never played ele or mes before.

Jan 18, 2007, 10:12 AM // 10:12	#35
Darcy Never Too Old Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Rhode Island where there are no GW contests Guild: Order of First Profession: W/R	But you don't get the choice of a mesmer hero until Vabbi area, so setting Sousuke up as an E/Me is your only choice.