Thunderhead keep is kicking my butt! - Guild Wars Forums

Big Mike · Jan 30, 2007, 02:30 AM // 02:30

I've ran this mission 4 or 5 times now and have gotten whupped on each time. Every time it seems to be going well, but falls apart at the same exact part every time without fail. When holding the fort, when the perfected armor comes in. It seems we throw everything we have into killing the perfected armor and the jade armors, but nothing kills them. Next thing you know were overrun with monsters and the king gets killed. We've tried splitting up and defending both gates, and just guarding the king as a large group, nothing works.

Is there a good strategy for killing the Perfected armor?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

*Darcy* · Jan 30, 2007, 03:46 AM // 03:46

Here is the link to the wiki page http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Thunder..._%28Mission%29

Smile Like Umean It · Jan 30, 2007, 03:58 AM // 03:58

Wow, it's been a while since I've seen someone have trouble with that mission.
Well, if you need help still you can pm me or whisp in game.
Name's same as here.

Big Mike · Jan 30, 2007, 04:11 AM // 04:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darcy

Here is the link to the wiki page http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Thunder..._%28Mission%29

Thanks, but I've read that (heh, several times!) It's really perty useless, at least as far as giving tips on getting past the perfected armor anyways.

Terra Xin · Jan 30, 2007, 04:25 AM // 04:25

what is your team running? there might be a problem there?

MisterB · Jan 30, 2007, 04:35 AM // 04:35

The perfected armor is just a level 28 melee boss. There are many counters to melee classes; every class can counter melee.

Warrior: Just armor up, your monk will have an easy time healing you. Riposte, Deadly Riposte
Ranger: Throw Dirt, Whirling Defense, Dust Trap, Oath Shot, repeat
Ele: Blinding Flash, Ennervating Charge, Wards
Necro: Enfeeble, SS, Spoil Victor, Curses
Mesmer: Just take a good mesmer for easy mode. Too many to list

Also, if you don't have enough damage to spike the perfected armor quickly, you should instead dedicate one player to shut him down, while the rest of the team kills the other Jade/Mursaat accompanying it. If you spend all your time trying to kill the perfected armor, the rest of your foes will tear you apart. Also, try "Search." THK has come up once or twice on this forum.

Str0b0 · Jan 30, 2007, 04:57 AM // 04:57

I'll help you out. My Dervish owns Perfected Armor. Constant blind FTW!!! Dervish name is over there
<------------- The Hassam one. Add it and if you are still having trouble with this say Wednesday give me a yell. I'll be on all day more than likely.

strcpy · Jan 30, 2007, 08:57 AM // 08:57

You are keeping correct target priority? In prophecies pretty much leave the boss until the end (except Monks). That's different from Factions and Nightfall - they do not do double damage.

Ironhammer isn't infused (you and your team are - correct?) so he can *not* take any hits from Mursaat. That's another reason to leave the bosses until the ends - Ironhammer will start getting the regular Mursaat attacking him if they pile up.

Camp the king (not too close as he will get Spectral Agony on him and die - I try and stop them at the top of the stairs), kill monks/casters/rangers/warriors/bosses, and I've never really had an issue. The hardest part is if I can not realistically bring enough anti-knockdown stuff while the 15 giants Giant Stomp constantly (before the Mursaat) - with heroes I no longer have that issue. That and if Ironhammer decides he can wammo out there and take on a bunch of mursaat himself (nothing one can do about that).

Cebe · Jan 30, 2007, 09:53 AM // 09:53

"Camping with Ironhammer" is definitely the easiest way I found of completing this mission. I sometimes do it with hench just for fun. If you're wanting full-team protection maybe you could consider taking a Ritualist with:

[skill]Boon of Creation[/skill][skill]Ritual Lord[/skill][skill]Union[/skill][skill]Shelter[/skill][skill]Displacement[/skill][skill]Shadowsong[/skill][skill]Flesh of my Flesh[/skill] *optional*

I had a blast with that. It's just general team protection and if you're all huddled up round the king it works like a charm. Add in an Ele with Ward against Harm, or Ward against Foes/Melee can work well. Also, to help with getting to the keep I found Ward of Stability to work like a charm against those Stone Summit Herders are their irritating Giant Stomp.

vojnik · Jan 30, 2007, 10:16 AM // 10:16

to op, steer clear from the holy trinity style party. (i.e. tanks, nukers, healers).

N E D M · Jan 30, 2007, 10:54 AM // 10:54

hey look at this [skill]Displacement[/skill]
That description says all attacks MADE BY ALLIES are evaded , lol.
if that were the case it would win the prize for most useless skill

Cebe · Jan 30, 2007, 11:00 AM // 11:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by N E D M

hey look at this [skill]Displacement[/skill]
That description says all attacks MADE BY ALLIES are evaded , lol.
if that were the case it would win the prize for most useless skill

That is indeed very true. I can assure you it should be "All non-Spirit allies within its range "evade" all attacks.".

*looks at GWG* Fix this please..

Big Mike · Jan 31, 2007, 03:43 AM // 03:43

Thanks for the help guys, we finaly got past thunderhead keep tonight. I think one thing that made a big diff was I use a necro and so does one of my sons. We never realy realized what soul reaping was all about, and never realy put any attribute points towards it. We ran it with reaping almost maxed out and what a difference it made! I had an abundance of energy through the whole mission! I kept hitting them with faintheartedness, weaken armor, then misc blood spells, worked great.

Once we made it past the perfected armor thing, some bonehead starts knocking on the front door. Like I'm gonna lose the fight to answer the door! A quick glance out the window confirmed it was a good choice, just a bum with a shovel- most likely wanting to shovel my sidewalk, or beat me over the head with the shovel and rob me. Guess he was S.O.L tonight.

ryanryanryan0310 · Jan 31, 2007, 03:54 AM // 03:54

Are you infused?

Elena · Jan 31, 2007, 11:44 AM // 11:44

wow... you got all the way to THK without realising what Soul reaping did ? o.O its the best pve primary

Patrick Smit · Jan 31, 2007, 12:02 PM // 12:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by strcpy

You are keeping correct target priority? In prophecies pretty much leave the boss until the end (except Monks). That's different from Factions and Nightfall - they do not do double damage.
...

This is the most important trick in defeating THK, we have even beaten it with 5 of which no monk, but a restore RT with only factions skill. Start with squishies while armors/knights are being blocked by warriors. Then finish of high AL enemies. Calling can accelerate the elimination of targets a lot, and it's where it goes often wrong (with bad PUGS) when fighting the boss in THK, DPS is spread out so enemies accumulate.

Kid Divinity · Jan 31, 2007, 04:40 PM // 16:40

THK is my favorite mission of all 3 campaigns and I run it several times each week. I have a 2 rit + MM heroway build that eats the seige with time to spare.

PM me and I'll run you through.

IGNs: Kid Divinity or Chalice of Zydia

teenchi · Jan 31, 2007, 08:49 PM // 20:49

Are you doing this with hero/hench? A guild member and I did this with all heroes that all had pets and an mm and it was amazingly easy doing it that way. We did it on a whim just to see if it would work. We were able to each stay on a side and didn't even help each other.

We had 8 pets and roughly 18-20 minions between us by using 2 necro heroes, 2 monks, 2 rangers and us. I know some people poo poo having pets but I've added a pet to each of my heroes and gotten them all leveled to 20 and I can do some pretty fun stuff without having to PUG now.

Jumping Is Uselss · Jan 31, 2007, 09:11 PM // 21:11

I never found any difficulty with this mission.When I played with my ele I brought 2 sf ele + 1 MM heroes the rest were henchies. I used the wall trick to finish the mission. I aggroed Dragnar away from the 2 mobs near him, and killed him alone. Then without the doors opening the monsters kept coming and I just nuked them all, while I was on wall near the catapults . After awhile when it seemed no monsters were appearing I talked with the King for the doors to open and Confessor Dorian's group showed up. This method worked for me to complete the mission, but not the bonus.

GODh · Feb 01, 2007, 01:14 AM // 01:14

I dont understand the fuss about this mission... yesterday i did it with my Elonian warrior, another warrior, an elem and some heroes and hench. We did it 1st try: with bonus and nobody died. Just stick close to the king and guards those 4 stairs...

Jan 30, 2007, 02:30 AM // 02:30	#1
Big Mike Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Jan 2007	Thunderhead keep is kicking my butt! I've ran this mission 4 or 5 times now and have gotten whupped on each time. Every time it seems to be going well, but falls apart at the same exact part every time without fail. When holding the fort, when the perfected armor comes in. It seems we throw everything we have into killing the perfected armor and the jade armors, but nothing kills them. Next thing you know were overrun with monsters and the king gets killed. We've tried splitting up and defending both gates, and just guarding the king as a large group, nothing works. Is there a good strategy for killing the Perfected armor? Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

Jan 30, 2007, 04:35 AM // 04:35	#6
MisterB Furnace Stoker Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Planet Earth, Sol system, Milky Way galaxy Guild: [ban] Profession: W/	The perfected armor is just a level 28 melee boss. There are many counters to melee classes; every class can counter melee. Warrior: Just armor up, your monk will have an easy time healing you. Riposte, Deadly Riposte Ranger: Throw Dirt, Whirling Defense, Dust Trap, Oath Shot, repeat Ele: Blinding Flash, Ennervating Charge, Wards Necro: Enfeeble, SS, Spoil Victor, Curses Mesmer: Just take a good mesmer for easy mode. Too many to list Also, if you don't have enough damage to spike the perfected armor quickly, you should instead dedicate one player to shut him down, while the rest of the team kills the other Jade/Mursaat accompanying it. If you spend all your time trying to kill the perfected armor, the rest of your foes will tear you apart. Also, try "Search." THK has come up once or twice on this forum. Last edited by MisterB; Jan 30, 2007 at 04:55 AM // 04:55..

Jan 31, 2007, 09:11 PM // 21:11	#19
Jumping Is Uselss Jungle Guide Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: -... . .... .. -. -.. / -.-- --- ..-	I never found any difficulty with this mission.When I played with my ele I brought 2 sf ele + 1 MM heroes the rest were henchies. I used the wall trick to finish the mission. I aggroed Dragnar away from the 2 mobs near him, and killed him alone. Then without the doors opening the monsters kept coming and I just nuked them all, while I was on wall near the catapults . After awhile when it seemed no monsters were appearing I talked with the King for the doors to open and Confessor Dorian's group showed up. This method worked for me to complete the mission, but not the bonus. Last edited by Jumping Is Uselss; Jan 31, 2007 at 09:13 PM // 21:13..

Jan 30, 2007, 03:46 AM // 03:46	#2
Darcy Never Too Old Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Rhode Island where there are no GW contests Guild: Order of First Profession: W/R	Here is the link to the wiki page http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Thunder..._%28Mission%29

Jan 30, 2007, 03:58 AM // 03:58	#3
Smile Like Umean It Desert Nomad Join Date: Jul 2006 Profession: E/Rt	Wow, it's been a while since I've seen someone have trouble with that mission. Well, if you need help still you can pm me or whisp in game. Name's same as here.

Jan 30, 2007, 04:25 AM // 04:25	#5
Terra Xin Furnace Stoker Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New Zealand Profession: Me/R	what is your team running? there might be a problem there?

Jan 30, 2007, 04:57 AM // 04:57	#7
Str0b0 Desert Nomad Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: North Carolina Profession: N/Me	I'll help you out. My Dervish owns Perfected Armor. Constant blind FTW!!! Dervish name is over there <------------- The Hassam one. Add it and if you are still having trouble with this say Wednesday give me a yell. I'll be on all day more than likely.

Jan 30, 2007, 08:57 AM // 08:57	#8
strcpy Desert Nomad Join Date: Jul 2005 Guild: One of Many [ONE]	You are keeping correct target priority? In prophecies pretty much leave the boss until the end (except Monks). That's different from Factions and Nightfall - they do not do double damage. Ironhammer isn't infused (you and your team are - correct?) so he can not take any hits from Mursaat. That's another reason to leave the bosses until the ends - Ironhammer will start getting the regular Mursaat attacking him if they pile up. Camp the king (not too close as he will get Spectral Agony on him and die - I try and stop them at the top of the stairs), kill monks/casters/rangers/warriors/bosses, and I've never really had an issue. The hardest part is if I can not realistically bring enough anti-knockdown stuff while the 15 giants Giant Stomp constantly (before the Mursaat) - with heroes I no longer have that issue. That and if Ironhammer decides he can wammo out there and take on a bunch of mursaat himself (nothing one can do about that).

Jan 30, 2007, 09:53 AM // 09:53	#9
Cebe The 5th Celestial Boss Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Inverness, Scotland Guild: The Cult of Scaro [WHO] Profession: E/	"Camping with Ironhammer" is definitely the easiest way I found of completing this mission. I sometimes do it with hench just for fun. If you're wanting full-team protection maybe you could consider taking a Ritualist with: [skill]Boon of Creation[/skill][skill]Ritual Lord[/skill][skill]Union[/skill][skill]Shelter[/skill][skill]Displacement[/skill][skill]Shadowsong[/skill][skill]Flesh of my Flesh[/skill] optional I had a blast with that. It's just general team protection and if you're all huddled up round the king it works like a charm. Add in an Ele with Ward against Harm, or Ward against Foes/Melee can work well. Also, to help with getting to the keep I found Ward of Stability to work like a charm against those Stone Summit Herders are their irritating Giant Stomp.

Jan 30, 2007, 10:16 AM // 10:16	#10
vojnik Academy Page Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Aussie land Guild: Australian Vengance Alliance Profession: N/	to op, steer clear from the holy trinity style party. (i.e. tanks, nukers, healers).

Jan 30, 2007, 10:54 AM // 10:54	#11
N E D M Desert Nomad Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Officer's Club Guild: Gameamp Guides [AMP]	hey look at this [skill]Displacement[/skill] That description says all attacks MADE BY ALLIES are evaded , lol. if that were the case it would win the prize for most useless skill

Jan 31, 2007, 03:43 AM // 03:43	#13
Big Mike Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Jan 2007	Thanks for the help guys, we finaly got past thunderhead keep tonight. I think one thing that made a big diff was I use a necro and so does one of my sons. We never realy realized what soul reaping was all about, and never realy put any attribute points towards it. We ran it with reaping almost maxed out and what a difference it made! I had an abundance of energy through the whole mission! I kept hitting them with faintheartedness, weaken armor, then misc blood spells, worked great. Once we made it past the perfected armor thing, some bonehead starts knocking on the front door. Like I'm gonna lose the fight to answer the door! A quick glance out the window confirmed it was a good choice, just a bum with a shovel- most likely wanting to shovel my sidewalk, or beat me over the head with the shovel and rob me. Guess he was S.O.L tonight.

Jan 31, 2007, 03:54 AM // 03:54	#14
ryanryanryan0310 Desert Nomad Join Date: May 2006 Guild: Scars Meadows [SMS]	Are you infused?

Jan 31, 2007, 11:44 AM // 11:44	#15
Elena Desert Nomad Join Date: May 2005 Location: Belgium	wow... you got all the way to THK without realising what Soul reaping did ? o.O its the best pve primary

Jan 31, 2007, 04:40 PM // 16:40	#17
Kid Divinity Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Apr 2006 Guild: Zydian Coven Profession: Rt/E	THK is my favorite mission of all 3 campaigns and I run it several times each week. I have a 2 rit + MM heroway build that eats the seige with time to spare. PM me and I'll run you through. IGNs: Kid Divinity or Chalice of Zydia

Jan 31, 2007, 08:49 PM // 20:49	#18
teenchi Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: May 2005 Location: PST Guild: Heros of Titans Realm [HotR] Profession: W/Mo	Are you doing this with hero/hench? A guild member and I did this with all heroes that all had pets and an mm and it was amazingly easy doing it that way. We did it on a whim just to see if it would work. We were able to each stay on a side and didn't even help each other. We had 8 pets and roughly 18-20 minions between us by using 2 necro heroes, 2 monks, 2 rangers and us. I know some people poo poo having pets but I've added a pet to each of my heroes and gotten them all leveled to 20 and I can do some pretty fun stuff without having to PUG now.

Feb 01, 2007, 01:14 AM // 01:14	#20
GODh Jungle Guide Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: The Netherlands Guild: BFTW and DLRR	I dont understand the fuss about this mission... yesterday i did it with my Elonian warrior, another warrior, an elem and some heroes and hench. We did it 1st try: with bonus and nobody died. Just stick close to the king and guards those 4 stairs...