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Frazzy · Mar 11, 2007, 02:21 AM // 02:21

what class can beat others up the best? idk what class i should mayk!

Arkantos · Mar 11, 2007, 02:27 AM // 02:27

make*

there is no best class. Every class has it's pros and cons.

Isileth · Mar 11, 2007, 02:30 AM // 02:30

Warrior is strongest (hello strength primary!)

But yeah there is no best. They are all balanced so pick something you have fun with.

Chiaro · Mar 11, 2007, 02:34 AM // 02:34

Warriors do the most physical damage.

Elementalists do the most elemental damage.

Arkantos · Mar 11, 2007, 03:10 AM // 03:10

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Originally Posted by Chiaro

Warriors do the most physical damage.

Not true, a dervish can do much more physical damage then a warrior.

Chiaro · Mar 11, 2007, 03:41 AM // 03:41

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Originally Posted by Arkantos

Not true, a dervish can do much more physical damage then a warrior.

Fine. Dervish do the most physical damage. :P

Coloneh · Mar 11, 2007, 03:58 AM // 03:58

if you are looking at the maximums then elementalist wins.

most raw AoE damage = ele
most raw single target damage = ele
most armor = ele

Buzzer · Mar 11, 2007, 05:10 AM // 05:10

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Originally Posted by Coloneh

if you are looking at the maximums then elementalist wins.

most raw AoE damage = ele
most raw single target damage = ele
most armor = ele

most raw AoE damage = ele
most raw single target damage = warrior or assassin
most armor = warrior

Frazzy · Mar 11, 2007, 06:15 AM // 06:15

I made a ranger cuz my pet can beat ppl up!

Thomas.knbk · Mar 11, 2007, 09:05 AM // 09:05

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Originally Posted by Coloneh

if you are looking at the maximums then elementalist wins.

most raw AoE damage = ele
most raw single target damage = ele
most armor = ele

most raw AoE damage = ele
most raw single target damage = warrior
most armor = warrior

There is no best class. If you're looking at a pure 1v1 situation Mesmers and Assassins are significantly stronger than other classes, but 1v1 is not what matters. 8v8 is what matters. And in 8v8 all classes have their own strengths and weaknesses.

Mournblade · Mar 11, 2007, 01:42 PM // 13:42

I see Frazzy is bored again.

n00b is the most powerful class, because they can do damage to hundreds of people at once.

Darko_UK · Mar 11, 2007, 01:53 PM // 13:53

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Originally Posted by Mournblade

I see Frazzy is bored again.

n00b is the most powerful class, because they can do damage to hundreds of people at once.

Quote for truth

isamu kurosawa · Mar 11, 2007, 03:02 PM // 15:02

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Originally Posted by Buzzer

most raw AoE damage = ele
most raw single target damage = warrior or assassin
most armor = warrior

well sins kill via contitions not damage, so it is ele, and with earsh attribute ele does have the highest armour.

MrTumnus · Mar 11, 2007, 03:20 PM // 15:20

Primary Professions:
Warrior: Best physical dmg armour (good melee damage)
Ranger: Best Elemental Dmg Armour (good ranged damage)
Monk: Weak armour; awesome heals
Mesmer: Weak armour; awesome caster (inflicts conditions and hexes)
Necro: similar to mesmer but with minions that can act as body blockers/extra fighters
elementalist: Best elemental damage, can do most damage to most enemies at the same time. weak-mid armour str.

Assassin: Best armour against conditions, good spike damage vs singer characters, good defensive tactics
Ritualist: can be strong, depends on build

Dervish: self-heals, armour comparable to rangers, multiple strike regular attack comparable to warrior
Paragon: not sure...

TiggerDeathDagger · Mar 11, 2007, 07:30 PM // 19:30

Quote:

Primary Professions:
Warrior: Best physical dmg armour (good melee damage)
Ranger: Best Elemental Dmg Armour (good ranged damage)
Monk: Weak armour; awesome heals
Mesmer: Weak armour; awesome caster (inflicts conditions and hexes)
Necro: similar to mesmer but with minions that can act as body blockers/extra fighters
elementalist: Best elemental damage, can do most damage to most enemies at the same time. weak-mid armour str.

Assassin: Best armour against conditions, good spike damage vs singer characters, good defensive tactics
Ritualist: can be strong, depends on build

Dervish: self-heals, armour comparable to rangers, multiple strike regular attack comparable to warrior
Paragon: not sure...

Even though assassin armour shortens conditions... degen owns them, not enough self healing skills and the ones that they do have are easly counterable... [Shadow Refuge] All u have to do is run from them after 2 seconds then when it wears off attack them again... then they dont get the bonus

Thomas.knbk · Mar 11, 2007, 09:03 PM // 21:03

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Originally Posted by isamu kurosawa

well sins kill via contitions not damage, so it is ele, and with earsh attribute ele does have the highest armour.

Warriors deal more damage than elementalists. That's a fact. It's been discussed a lot of times before. There's an 80 page thread about it in the Gladiator's Arena entitled 'Why Nuking Sucks'. Very interesting read. Conditions or not, warriors out-dps elemetalists.
Armor from enchantments doesn't count. One interrupt or shatter pwns them all. I don't see that happening with Warrior armor.

Coloneh · Mar 11, 2007, 09:57 PM // 21:57

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Originally Posted by Thomas.knbk

Warriors deal more damage than elementalists. That's a fact. It's been discussed a lot of times before. There's an 80 page thread about it in the Gladiator's Arena entitled 'Why Nuking Sucks'. Very interesting read. Conditions or not, warriors out-dps elemetalists.
Armor from enchantments doesn't count. One interrupt or shatter pwns them all. I don't see that happening with Warrior armor.

yes warriors deal more damage to a single target than a NUKER. but not all eles are nukers. and air spiker will deal much more damage than a warrior. also earth eles have way higher armor than warriors. go read some skill descriptions people.

isamu kurosawa · Mar 11, 2007, 10:05 PM // 22:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomas.knbk

Warriors deal more damage than elementalists. That's a fact. It's been discussed a lot of times before. There's an 80 page thread about it in the Gladiator's Arena entitled 'Why Nuking Sucks'. Very interesting read. Conditions or not, warriors out-dps elemetalists.
Armor from enchantments doesn't count. One interrupt or shatter pwns them all. I don't see that happening with Warrior armor.

I never stated otherwise..it was listed as most "raw" damage, dps involves damage over time as opposed to a single shot damage, 119 from a single spell is more than +40 from say an axe skill.

shanaya · Mar 11, 2007, 10:17 PM // 22:17

Warriors are the strongest...my diminutive female warrior can wield a huge single-handed sword and tall shield that together probably weigh more than she does.

Oh, but my tiny monk can too.....oh well.

strcpy · Mar 12, 2007, 05:48 AM // 05:48

Warrior or ranger is probably the easiest, mesmer or assassin the hardest (PvE wise). The others fit in between. You can make a decent warrior with almost any skill bar assuming you act within your team and not on your own. An assassin or mesmer needs a good build, understanding of the game/priority of targets, and working within your team well.

Maximum in nearly everything will be an Ele - but they are conditional (you will note that the above "ele's aren't the highest" discount where the conditions are true while not discounting their own conditions). For most times, that isn't good at all, just that they *can* - while they can be the highest in nearly everything the conditions are usually hard to come by and do not last long or are easy to remove (and even the AI does so). They need to stay as an Ele, not trying to be something else.

Mar 11, 2007, 02:21 AM // 02:21	#1
Frazzy Banned Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Canada Guild: Unavailable Profession: Mo/Me	what class is the strongest what class can beat others up the best? idk what class i should mayk!

Mar 11, 2007, 02:27 AM // 02:27	#2
Arkantos The Greatest Join Date: Feb 2006 Profession: W/	make* there is no best class. Every class has it's pros and cons.

Mar 11, 2007, 02:30 AM // 02:30	#3
Isileth Jungle Guide Join Date: Apr 2006 Profession: R/W	Warrior is strongest (hello strength primary!) But yeah there is no best. They are all balanced so pick something you have fun with.

Mar 11, 2007, 02:34 AM // 02:34	#4
Chiaro Academy Page Join Date: Feb 2007 Guild: [NoiR] Profession: E/Mo	Warriors do the most physical damage. Elementalists do the most elemental damage.

Mar 11, 2007, 03:58 AM // 03:58	#7
Coloneh Furnace Stoker Join Date: Nov 2006 Profession: D/W	if you are looking at the maximums then elementalist wins. most raw AoE damage = ele most raw single target damage = ele most armor = ele

Mar 11, 2007, 06:15 AM // 06:15	#9
Frazzy Banned Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Canada Guild: Unavailable Profession: Mo/Me	I made a ranger cuz my pet can beat ppl up!

Mar 11, 2007, 01:42 PM // 13:42	#11
Mournblade Furnace Stoker Join Date: May 2005 Location: Houston, Texas Guild: Dawn Treaders [DAWN] Profession: W/Mo	I see Frazzy is bored again. n00b is the most powerful class, because they can do damage to hundreds of people at once.

Mar 11, 2007, 03:20 PM // 15:20	#14
MrTumnus Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jan 2006 Profession: Mo/R	Primary Professions: Warrior: Best physical dmg armour (good melee damage) Ranger: Best Elemental Dmg Armour (good ranged damage) Monk: Weak armour; awesome heals Mesmer: Weak armour; awesome caster (inflicts conditions and hexes) Necro: similar to mesmer but with minions that can act as body blockers/extra fighters elementalist: Best elemental damage, can do most damage to most enemies at the same time. weak-mid armour str. Assassin: Best armour against conditions, good spike damage vs singer characters, good defensive tactics Ritualist: can be strong, depends on build Dervish: self-heals, armour comparable to rangers, multiple strike regular attack comparable to warrior Paragon: not sure...

Mar 11, 2007, 10:17 PM // 22:17	#19
shanaya Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Nov 2005 Guild: Scouts of Tyria Profession: R/	Warriors are the strongest...my diminutive female warrior can wield a huge single-handed sword and tall shield that together probably weigh more than she does. Oh, but my tiny monk can too.....oh well.

Mar 12, 2007, 05:48 AM // 05:48	#20
strcpy Desert Nomad Join Date: Jul 2005 Guild: One of Many [ONE]	Warrior or ranger is probably the easiest, mesmer or assassin the hardest (PvE wise). The others fit in between. You can make a decent warrior with almost any skill bar assuming you act within your team and not on your own. An assassin or mesmer needs a good build, understanding of the game/priority of targets, and working within your team well. Maximum in nearly everything will be an Ele - but they are conditional (you will note that the above "ele's aren't the highest" discount where the conditions are true while not discounting their own conditions). For most times, that isn't good at all, just that they can - while they can be the highest in nearly everything the conditions are usually hard to come by and do not last long or are easy to remove (and even the AI does so). They need to stay as an Ele, not trying to be something else.