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queek · Mar 16, 2007, 02:44 AM // 02:44

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*Darcy* · Mar 16, 2007, 03:11 AM // 03:11

It depends on what skills you are using.

Check out the descriptions and recommendations on the wiki at http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Category:Sword_Hilts

Feminist Terrorist · Mar 16, 2007, 03:31 AM // 03:31

I like furious, myself. Barbed is a close second. Furious is good for the increased chance of more adrenaline, and I like to be sadistic at times, so barbed, with its longer bleeding, satisfies my cruel urges.

Thomas.knbk · Mar 16, 2007, 01:19 PM // 13:19

It depends on a two things

your build?
PvP or PvE?

I'm not a PvE expert, so I'll stick to the PvP advice
There is not one best mod. You have 4 weapon sets, use them.
One should be Zealous for energy hungry times, one should be a dmg improving mod (either vamp or sundering. There's a 3 page thread in Glad's Arena about which one is better) to pump out more dmg (duh), and one should have an elemental mod for when you're attacking warriors. (they have 100-116 armor against physical dmg, but only 80-96 against elemental dmg. That's a lot of dmg you're adding)

I hope this was of some help

Duke Bonebreaker · Mar 16, 2007, 05:14 PM // 17:14

Sundering is if you are stuck in the sundering= good phase. Personally I like furious also because I use mostly adrenaline skills.

Hockster · Mar 16, 2007, 05:22 PM // 17:22

Anything but Sundering or Furious. Sundering sucks at every level, furious is only marginally better. One extra adrenaline strike every ten hits? Pfffffft. Vamp is straight up pure life steal, zealous is always good. Elemtantal damage is anice bonus against warriors not running Sentinel armor (no PvE mobs have armor bonuses).

Franco Power · Mar 16, 2007, 05:22 PM // 17:22

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Originally Posted by queek

I was wundering what is the best sword hilt was i am not sure cuase i am trying to custimized my sword
thanks.

First of all, thanks for the laugh.

Second

It depends on your build and what you are doing, but for sword the best mods I believe are

Zealous
Vampiric

Furious is trash, 10% is not worth the mod,
Sundering the same, not only because it's 20% but also because on a 15-22dmg weapon is really not worth it and you better off with vampiric doing that -3 every 1.33 seconds.
About condition mods, well I feel that most conditions are removed before their full duration anyway, the only I'd see fit to bring would be silencing or cruel, there isn't silencing for swords thou.
Elemental mods (ebon,icy,fiery,shocking) are good against warriors.

Stormlord Alex · Mar 16, 2007, 05:24 PM // 17:24

I agree with Thomas, you'll want to have multiple weapn sets for different situations. Personally, I carry around 3 swords - a vamp sword for when I'm killing stuff, furious for when I'm chasing something and not actually swinging, and Icy as an elemental switch vs. Warriors (also handy for trigger Shivers in PvE teams). Also... I occaisonally break out the Furious when I'm running Dragon slash because if it procs... Well... it's fun.

Thomas.knbk · Mar 16, 2007, 05:27 PM // 17:27

People, sundering doesn't suck. It used to suck bad back when it was 10/10, but now it's 20/20, which nets to 4% AP in the long run. (as opposed to the 1% it was). It's about as good as vamp now, but you don't have the -1. Don't say the -1 is compensated for by the life steal. It's not. People block, people kite, people knock you down, snare you, etc.
The -1 would be compensated by the life steal if you continuously hit your target every 1.5 seconds. In PvP this is far from realistic. For PvE, stick with Vamp though.
I only ever run Furious for fun in a Dragon Slash build, because it can recharge itself insantly. In that build there are still better choices though, and with any other build Furious is just plain crap.

Jetdoc · Mar 16, 2007, 05:37 PM // 17:37

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Originally Posted by Thomas.knbk

It's about as good as vamp now, but you don't have the -1.

The -1 would be compensated by the life steal if you continuously hit your target every 1.5 seconds. In PvP this is far from realistic. For PvE, stick with Vamp though.

There's a whole thread on Vampiric versus Sundering here http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ght=Vampiri c , and the overwhelming majority of the community has mathematically proven that vampiric is superior to sundering in almost every circumstance, even at 20/20.

People that like Sundering simply don't want the minor psychological impact of having -1 health degeneration (even though the actual impact to the character is quite minimal)

To help with that pyschological impact, remember that it would take the average character almost 5 minutes to die from -1 health degeneration.

Thomas.knbk · Mar 16, 2007, 06:04 PM // 18:04

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Originally Posted by Jetdoc

There's a whole thread on Vampiric versus Sundering, and the overwhelming majority of the community has mathematically proven that vampiric is superior to sundering in almost every circumstance, even at 20/20.

No, I'm sorry, but people really haven't agreed to that.
Vamp: +3 every hit, -1 degen. If you dish out 2400 dmg in one minute under constant frenzy, vamp will add 69 x 3 = 207 dmg to that.
Sundering: 4% AP unconditional in the long run. 2400 dmg without the AP is 2400 dmg, with 4% AP it would be 2575.
This is assuming you hit constantly under frenzy, without blocking/kiting/blinding etc. If those things do occur, both ofcourse drop by the same factor so the equation stays the same.
Sundering comes out slightly worse (32 dmg per minute), but has the advantage of coming in larger packages. Large packages are good in guild wars.
So, you can choose +0.53 DPS over the advantage of being spikier if you want to, and in PvE please do. I'm not saying one is better, I'm just saying people haven't 'agreed that vampiric is superior to sundering in almost every circumstance, even at 20/20'

Yaga Philipe · Mar 16, 2007, 06:22 PM // 18:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franco Power

First of all, thanks for the laugh.

Second

It depends on your build and what you are doing, but for sword the best mods I believe are

Zealous
Vampiric

Furious is trash, 10% is not worth the mod,
Sundering the same, not only because it's 20% but also because on a 15-22dmg weapon is really not worth it and you better off with vampiric doing that -3 every 1.33 seconds.
About condition mods, well I feel that most conditions are removed before their full duration anyway, the only I'd see fit to bring would be silencing or cruel, there isn't silencing for swords thou.
Elemental mods (ebon,icy,fiery,shocking) are good against warriors.

I agree, I like vampiric the most (you need another sword to put on when you're not fighting though)

Mar 16, 2007, 02:44 AM // 02:44	#1
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Mar 16, 2007, 01:19 PM // 13:19	#4
Thomas.knbk Forge Runner Join Date: Jul 2006	It depends on a two things your build? PvP or PvE? I'm not a PvE expert, so I'll stick to the PvP advice There is not one best mod. You have 4 weapon sets, use them. One should be Zealous for energy hungry times, one should be a dmg improving mod (either vamp or sundering. There's a 3 page thread in Glad's Arena about which one is better) to pump out more dmg (duh), and one should have an elemental mod for when you're attacking warriors. (they have 100-116 armor against physical dmg, but only 80-96 against elemental dmg. That's a lot of dmg you're adding) I hope this was of some help

Mar 16, 2007, 03:11 AM // 03:11	#2
Darcy Never Too Old Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Rhode Island where there are no GW contests Guild: Order of First Profession: W/R	It depends on what skills you are using. Check out the descriptions and recommendations on the wiki at http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Category:Sword_Hilts

Mar 16, 2007, 03:31 AM // 03:31	#3
Feminist Terrorist Desert Nomad Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Oh Noes! The 'burbs!	I like furious, myself. Barbed is a close second. Furious is good for the increased chance of more adrenaline, and I like to be sadistic at times, so barbed, with its longer bleeding, satisfies my cruel urges.

Mar 16, 2007, 05:14 PM // 17:14	#5
Duke Bonebreaker Academy Page Join Date: Sep 2006 Guild: Order Of The Black Talons Profession: W/Mo	Sundering is if you are stuck in the sundering= good phase. Personally I like furious also because I use mostly adrenaline skills.

Mar 16, 2007, 05:22 PM // 17:22	#6
Hockster Banned Join Date: Jul 2005	Anything but Sundering or Furious. Sundering sucks at every level, furious is only marginally better. One extra adrenaline strike every ten hits? Pfffffft. Vamp is straight up pure life steal, zealous is always good. Elemtantal damage is anice bonus against warriors not running Sentinel armor (no PvE mobs have armor bonuses).

Mar 16, 2007, 05:24 PM // 17:24	#8
Stormlord Alex Grotto Attendant Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Beyond the Forest of Doom, past the Cavern of Agony... on Kitten & Puppy Island Guild: Soul of Melandru [sOm] Profession: W/E	I agree with Thomas, you'll want to have multiple weapn sets for different situations. Personally, I carry around 3 swords - a vamp sword for when I'm killing stuff, furious for when I'm chasing something and not actually swinging, and Icy as an elemental switch vs. Warriors (also handy for trigger Shivers in PvE teams). Also... I occaisonally break out the Furious when I'm running Dragon slash because if it procs... Well... it's fun.

Mar 16, 2007, 05:27 PM // 17:27	#9
Thomas.knbk Forge Runner Join Date: Jul 2006	People, sundering doesn't suck. It used to suck bad back when it was 10/10, but now it's 20/20, which nets to 4% AP in the long run. (as opposed to the 1% it was). It's about as good as vamp now, but you don't have the -1. Don't say the -1 is compensated for by the life steal. It's not. People block, people kite, people knock you down, snare you, etc. The -1 would be compensated by the life steal if you continuously hit your target every 1.5 seconds. In PvP this is far from realistic. For PvE, stick with Vamp though. I only ever run Furious for fun in a Dragon Slash build, because it can recharge itself insantly. In that build there are still better choices though, and with any other build Furious is just plain crap.