Verata's Aura range - Guild Wars Forums

Shifty Geezer · Sep 18, 2005, 09:26 AM // 09:26

I held off Bettletun's undead army quest until I had this skill. Last time I was there I remember lots of Bone Fiend giving us grief. I made the trek to Verata and grabbed Verata's Aura. Then return to Beeteltn and...it didn't seem to work. I cast it and stil got hit by lots of Fiends. When ressurected the Bone Dragn just by the reserrect point had created a half dozen Fiends. I cast Aura and...ONE fiend joined me. Only one, who was standing next to me when I cast it. What's the range on this Aura? Seems a total waste at the moment. I was hoping to use it for Galrath and turn their Fiends against them.

Shifty Geezer · Sep 19, 2005, 10:21 AM // 10:21

So, does nobody ever use this skill? Not one person can say 'it should grab all minions in your aggro' or 'only those standing right next to you'??

Lag Hell · Sep 19, 2005, 10:23 AM // 10:23

never heard of this skill b4 >_>

Charcoal Ann · Sep 19, 2005, 10:37 AM // 10:37

i have heard of it. never bothered using it though. when my necro was in this world the NPCs never really used minion spells. no Veratas protecting Galrath, no bone dragon, no nothing. so i never used it.

i had however presumed that the area would at least be your aggro circle if not the mini map. from your evidence however it would seem that it is about the same as heal area. stupidly small when you consider the tiny amount of minions in the game usually.

A NERD1989 · Sep 19, 2005, 10:43 AM // 10:43

never heard of it either

LathalDraugr · Sep 19, 2005, 10:53 AM // 10:53

From what I understand it only works on "uncontrolled" undead minions. So to use it you would have to kill the Zombie warlocks before using the skill. As far as I can see it's only real use is for a minion master necro with lots of minions who's worried about dying and setting them on their teammates.

A NERD1989 · Sep 19, 2005, 10:55 AM // 10:55

o yea i know it when a nec dies you can take over the minions

Charcoal Ann · Sep 19, 2005, 10:57 AM // 10:57

nope the description is 'all Hostile undead in the area become bound to you'

you don't need to kill the summoner. according to that.

maybe give Veratas Gaze a go then use Veratas Aura. to see if the description is wrong.

LathalDraugr · Sep 19, 2005, 11:16 AM // 11:16

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Originally Posted by Charcoal Ann

nope the description is 'all Hostile undead in the area become bound to you'

you don't need to kill the summoner. according to that.

maybe give Veratas Gaze a go then use Veratas Aura. to see if the description is wrong.

I wasn't working from the description just my personal experience. Haven't used my necro recently and never used Aura much but from when I tried it out that seemed to be what made it work. Wouldn't be the first time the skill descriptions were wrong or misleading either.

Shifty Geezer · Sep 19, 2005, 12:48 PM // 12:48

When I did get one minion it was a hostile minion of the Bone Dragon. Still I can understand why no-one knows. It's not a skill worth having unless you know there's going to be lots of undead summons. And in those cases you can just Putrid Explosion the corpses before the enemy can raise 'em. Seems like I should'a grabbed Bone Fiend instead of Verata's Aura

Oh well, I'll have to beat him up again!

Carinae · Sep 19, 2005, 12:58 PM // 12:58

OK, here's the deal.

The spell only binds hostile undead to you when it is cast. The 'Aura' part keeps the undead bound to you, it doesn't continue to convert them.

Also, recasting VA while it is still active does not bind ANY undead to you, it has to be a fresh cast.

Either the spell description is poorly worded, or there is a bug in the spell.

Elena · Sep 19, 2005, 02:45 PM // 14:45

so what youre saying is if there are 10 horros on the other team and i use this skill i get those horrors on my side but i wont gain control over freshly spawned minions ? and will i loose those wich i got on my side when i recast ?

Carinae · Sep 19, 2005, 02:51 PM // 14:51

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Originally Posted by Elena

so what youre saying is if there are 10 horros on the other team and i use this skill i get those horrors on my side but i wont gain control over freshly spawned minions ?

Correct.

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Originally Posted by Elena

and will i loose those wich i got on my side when i recast ?

No, you won't lose any minions when you recast it, but you won't gain any either if VA is still in effect.

You only convert minions when you freshly cast VA.

sleepy samurai · Sep 19, 2005, 02:53 PM // 14:53

My 2 cents,

Spells have been failing across the board. My monk, ele, and worrier have encountered failed spells or enchantments that don't work. This is not related to interruptions or exhaustion ... The last update is the first time I recall this happening.

Every update seems to bring disappointment, at least for me.

dargon · Sep 19, 2005, 05:11 PM // 17:11

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Algren Cole · Sep 19, 2005, 05:38 PM // 17:38

like Carinea stated It only binds raised animated undead when you cast. Recasting does nothing. I've yet to see anyone use Veretas Aura in an impressive way. It seems to just be one of those skills that's "fun" to use. Though I bet you could use it to counter a Minion Master build.

if you just want the experience for the quest msg me ingame and I'll solo it for you.

Carinae · Sep 19, 2005, 07:21 PM // 19:21

I tried to use it against the minions raised by the Flesh Golems in Perdition Rock. Didn't work very well, and was promptly removed.

Could use it against a Minion Master build. It would be hilarious, but it would be a gimmick vs gimmick situation.

Teufel Eldritch · Sep 19, 2005, 07:36 PM // 19:36

It never worked for me. Last time I tried using it was in Dreadnought's Drift against the Summit Gnashers. Didn't work. Not a single Undead became bound to me.

Shifty Geezer · Sep 19, 2005, 07:43 PM // 19:43

I'd only tried it after the update. Has it ever worked before then? Could it have been brokened?

Teufel Eldritch · Sep 20, 2005, 01:45 AM // 01:45

I tried using it before the update, didn't work for me then. Doubt it would now either.

Sep 18, 2005, 09:26 AM // 09:26	#1
Shifty Geezer Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: May 2005 Guild: The Luckless Marauders [OOPS] Profession: E/Mo	Verata's Aura range I held off Bettletun's undead army quest until I had this skill. Last time I was there I remember lots of Bone Fiend giving us grief. I made the trek to Verata and grabbed Verata's Aura. Then return to Beeteltn and...it didn't seem to work. I cast it and stil got hit by lots of Fiends. When ressurected the Bone Dragn just by the reserrect point had created a half dozen Fiends. I cast Aura and...ONE fiend joined me. Only one, who was standing next to me when I cast it. What's the range on this Aura? Seems a total waste at the moment. I was hoping to use it for Galrath and turn their Fiends against them.

Sep 19, 2005, 10:21 AM // 10:21	#2
Shifty Geezer Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: May 2005 Guild: The Luckless Marauders [OOPS] Profession: E/Mo	So, does nobody ever use this skill? Not one person can say 'it should grab all minions in your aggro' or 'only those standing right next to you'??

Sep 19, 2005, 10:23 AM // 10:23	#3
Lag Hell Desert Nomad Join Date: Aug 2005	never heard of this skill b4 >_>

Sep 19, 2005, 10:37 AM // 10:37	#4
Charcoal Ann Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: In a World of BADGERS! Guild: Eternal Flame Brotherhood	i have heard of it. never bothered using it though. when my necro was in this world the NPCs never really used minion spells. no Veratas protecting Galrath, no bone dragon, no nothing. so i never used it. i had however presumed that the area would at least be your aggro circle if not the mini map. from your evidence however it would seem that it is about the same as heal area. stupidly small when you consider the tiny amount of minions in the game usually.

Sep 19, 2005, 10:43 AM // 10:43	#5
A NERD1989 Krytan Explorer Join Date: Aug 2005 Guild: Elite Black Ops Profession: W/Mo	never heard of it either

Sep 19, 2005, 10:53 AM // 10:53	#6
LathalDraugr Academy Page Join Date: May 2005	From what I understand it only works on "uncontrolled" undead minions. So to use it you would have to kill the Zombie warlocks before using the skill. As far as I can see it's only real use is for a minion master necro with lots of minions who's worried about dying and setting them on their teammates.

Sep 19, 2005, 10:55 AM // 10:55	#7
A NERD1989 Krytan Explorer Join Date: Aug 2005 Guild: Elite Black Ops Profession: W/Mo	o yea i know it when a nec dies you can take over the minions

Sep 19, 2005, 10:57 AM // 10:57	#8
Charcoal Ann Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: In a World of BADGERS! Guild: Eternal Flame Brotherhood	nope the description is 'all Hostile undead in the area become bound to you' you don't need to kill the summoner. according to that. maybe give Veratas Gaze a go then use Veratas Aura. to see if the description is wrong.

Sep 19, 2005, 12:48 PM // 12:48	#10
Shifty Geezer Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: May 2005 Guild: The Luckless Marauders [OOPS] Profession: E/Mo	When I did get one minion it was a hostile minion of the Bone Dragon. Still I can understand why no-one knows. It's not a skill worth having unless you know there's going to be lots of undead summons. And in those cases you can just Putrid Explosion the corpses before the enemy can raise 'em. Seems like I should'a grabbed Bone Fiend instead of Verata's Aura Oh well, I'll have to beat him up again!

Sep 19, 2005, 12:58 PM // 12:58	#11
Carinae Forge Runner Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Inside Guild: Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]	OK, here's the deal. The spell only binds hostile undead to you when it is cast. The 'Aura' part keeps the undead bound to you, it doesn't continue to convert them. Also, recasting VA while it is still active does not bind ANY undead to you, it has to be a fresh cast. Either the spell description is poorly worded, or there is a bug in the spell.

Sep 19, 2005, 02:45 PM // 14:45	#12
Elena Desert Nomad Join Date: May 2005 Location: Belgium	so what youre saying is if there are 10 horros on the other team and i use this skill i get those horrors on my side but i wont gain control over freshly spawned minions ? and will i loose those wich i got on my side when i recast ?

Sep 19, 2005, 02:53 PM // 14:53	#14
sleepy samurai Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Sep 2005	My 2 cents, Spells have been failing across the board. My monk, ele, and worrier have encountered failed spells or enchantments that don't work. This is not related to interruptions or exhaustion ... The last update is the first time I recall this happening. Every update seems to bring disappointment, at least for me.

Sep 19, 2005, 05:11 PM // 17:11	#15
dargon Furnace Stoker Join Date: May 2005 Guild: The Seraphim Knights [TSK] Profession: R/	If you find something thats broken, send a note to the support website and/or post it here. Posting here allows us to dissect whether it is infact broken, or just now working correctly, and then we can tell you to submit a report to ANet

Sep 19, 2005, 05:38 PM // 17:38	#16
Algren Cole Banned Join Date: Jun 2005	like Carinea stated It only binds raised animated undead when you cast. Recasting does nothing. I've yet to see anyone use Veretas Aura in an impressive way. It seems to just be one of those skills that's "fun" to use. Though I bet you could use it to counter a Minion Master build. if you just want the experience for the quest msg me ingame and I'll solo it for you.

Sep 19, 2005, 07:21 PM // 19:21	#17
Carinae Forge Runner Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Inside Guild: Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]	I tried to use it against the minions raised by the Flesh Golems in Perdition Rock. Didn't work very well, and was promptly removed. Could use it against a Minion Master build. It would be hilarious, but it would be a gimmick vs gimmick situation.

Sep 19, 2005, 07:36 PM // 19:36	#18
Teufel Eldritch Krytan Explorer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Shadar Logoth Guild: The Legendary Majestic 12 Profession: N/	It never worked for me. Last time I tried using it was in Dreadnought's Drift against the Summit Gnashers. Didn't work. Not a single Undead became bound to me.

Sep 19, 2005, 07:43 PM // 19:43	#19
Shifty Geezer Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: May 2005 Guild: The Luckless Marauders [OOPS] Profession: E/Mo	I'd only tried it after the update. Has it ever worked before then? Could it have been brokened?

Sep 20, 2005, 01:45 AM // 01:45	#20
Teufel Eldritch Krytan Explorer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Shadar Logoth Guild: The Legendary Majestic 12 Profession: N/	I tried using it before the update, didn't work for me then. Doubt it would now either.