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Vl Vl D · Apr 06, 2007, 07:41 AM // 07:41

omfg

This blows on many levels but the one thing that ticks me off is my guildies that braged bout how they went to try outs for HA , gvg and TA for hours so they could proove themselves to these peeps.
After beeing taking in by these guilds they came on ts to tell us how they are joing a better guild because of their rank 2/3 abilties had surpassed that of our guild with rank 3/12 players.
Now I find out they paid the guild in qustion just cause of a tin foil cape efect they left a their guild of 1yr1/2.I know you two nubs will read this and expect rage pms and get reading to increase your ignore list.

Mohnzh · Apr 06, 2007, 06:15 PM // 18:15

Well, I think that our viewpoints are not too far off, elektra and max. I think some of the discussion is more semantical than topical. I especially like your analagy of using your guild to make money with football. However, it does not completely fit. The scenario is that the capes are used to identify players that are skilled and that should get respect for their skill (not who they are as a person). But now, that standard can no longer be used. Those with trimmed capes may have just as well bought it, rather than earned it. How do those that earned it feel about those getting recognition for their "leetness" when all they did was pay for it? It would be like if Joe Montana's jersey read "Trump" and all of the videos had been photoshopped so that Donald Trump's face was their instead of Joe Montana. Montana gets paid a few hundred million dollars, but Donald Trump is recognized as one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time. Joe Montana is okay with it (not saying he actually would be, but hypothetically) since he sold it. But how would Dan Marino feel about his Hall-of-Fame induction if Donald Trump was already in...having never played a game of football in his life? The Hall of Fame is not for sale, should status by cape design be? Absolutely respect people for their skills...but how can we identify them if what we used in the past is now for sale?

OutBidzU · Apr 06, 2007, 06:59 PM // 18:59

Its a game.

Who cares?

Play it.

Its not that big of a deal.

People ebay gold.

People buy invites to guilds.

Its the ingame version of ebaying gold.

You can't stop them.

Why does it bother you?

I agree that it is wrong.

But whining about it won't solve anything.

In the end.

It takes a really desperate person with a low low LOW self esteem to buy an invite to a guild.

Instead of getting angry, we should pitty them.

chowmein69 · Apr 06, 2007, 08:42 PM // 20:42

i payed 20k to a silver trim guildand then i got kicked out lol ...
then i never got money back. lol

but itll be nice if the eprsn that got kick and person that invited him returns the money to the person tat got kick

max gladius · Apr 07, 2007, 07:55 AM // 07:55

This was the conversation about 10 minutes ago....
Actually got some Anet personnel input on the matter... this is just another persons opinion though...

Superdarth · Apr 07, 2007, 08:12 AM // 08:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soulless Warhawk

i payed 20k to a silver trim guildand then i got kicked out lol ...
then i never got money back. lol

but itll be nice if the eprsn that got kick and person that invited him returns the money to the person tat got kick

Would you be very pissed if i told you you deserved that?

This is why one should never buy his way into a guild.

chowmein69 · Apr 08, 2007, 03:19 AM // 03:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superdarth

Would you be very pissed if i told you you deserved that?

This is why one should never buy his way into a guild.

ya im still pisss i try pming the person that invited me and then no reply

[DE] · Apr 08, 2007, 05:03 AM // 05:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vl Vl D

omfg

This blows on many levels but the one thing that ticks me off is my guildies that braged bout how they went to try outs for HA , gvg and TA for hours so they could proove themselves to these peeps.
After beeing taking in by these guilds they came on ts to tell us how they are joing a better guild because of their rank 2/3 abilties had surpassed that of our guild with rank 3/12 players.
Now I find out they paid the guild in qustion just cause of a tin foil cape efect they left a their guild of 1yr1/2.I know you two nubs will read this and expect rage pms and get reading to increase your ignore list.

They may have payed there way in but I can almost guarentee you that they will not get to GvG/HA/ with the core group. All they get to do is walk around showing off there cape, and if they start to annoy the core group, well, they'll probably get booted

It's not like paying to join one of the guilds will allow you to actually do any activities with them.

Superdarth · Apr 08, 2007, 08:16 AM // 08:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soulless Warhawk

ya im still pisss i try pming the person that invited me and then no reply

I dont think you understood me...

I ment you deserved to get kicked. Anyone trying to buy fame and glory deserves it.

Franco Power · Apr 08, 2007, 11:25 AM // 11:25

If someone invites anyone to their guild it's their business and none of yours, if they get bad rep or not.

See me feeling sorry for some noob PvE'er in Kamadan wanting a silver cape the "easy" way and then geting scammed" , Yes I'm really sorry. Not.

Basicly, people have been doing this since ever, the only guild that might have been a bit, erm, unpleasent to people was DeeR, this is basicly like geting power-leveled, or doing that guild hall cheat for survivor, or buying gold off eBay, there are consequences, you cheat, you lose. Maybe if they actually cared about the silver cape that much, they would try and join a gvg guild and maybe take months to get there, but work for it, instead of thinking they can just get the jackpot and buy it off for 10k, lmao 10k.

To Wilhelm, yes, my old guild was sold for 1000k, we were going to lose the trim in about 2 weeks, my leader told him that, do you think they cared? No, they still bought it.

So basicly, to guilds that might get bad rep doing this, erm you're missing the point here, they are only doing this because they will lose trim soon or are going to disband. Blame, I think your friend was selling guild invites because he knew you guys were going to disband soon, no?
To people that might get scammed or not, first, for a PvE'er 10k is nothing, it's like a penny, second, 10k for 24 hours with a trim to walk around showing off and acting like a jerk is a price most of them are willing to pay and don't really care.

To the OP. If like you giving a example, joe only had 9.4k, etc etc, well then I doubt joe knows what a silver cape really means, and should really go play the game more, I don't think new players know, what gold/silver/bronze is until later, unless they start pvp'ing straight away and have friends to tell them, but if you are talking about PvE players, I doubt that.

Peace~

elektra_lucia · Apr 08, 2007, 12:35 PM // 12:35

Being kicked after you buy the invite is scamming and wrong. I don't think anyone can back down from that argument.

Buying an invite, selling an invite - aslong as you don't kick the person or what not, it's not scamming. Both parties know what's involved.

If of course, you do get scammed (get kicked). It should teach you a lesson.

I do think these people who do that should be banned though. I would never buy an invite, but I can support the idea of it. Shame it isn't scam free though.

Lydz · Apr 08, 2007, 07:26 PM // 19:26

I'm fine with it, as long as they don't kick those who pay for invites. I can understand kicking troublesome members, but otherwise not.

ShadowsRequiem · Apr 08, 2007, 11:15 PM // 23:15

Seeing them sell invites is pretty damn low, but you still shouldnt pay for those invites... its just a problem waiting to happen.

But I lost most respect from higher guilds seeing as how they trash talked and stuff

After seeing what happened to kgyu in the one tournament >_>... wow

The Last Preacher · Apr 09, 2007, 07:55 PM // 19:55

Dextus Ironheart 'Anyways its free money we might as well.'

...Selfish

I agree with this post. A Net has given you an inch and now your trying to take a mile. Just enjoy your trim and stop giving the game a bad name.

Alex Morningstar · Apr 12, 2007, 02:34 AM // 02:34

For the guild that wins the tourny, have all the members in the guild at the time it was earned have the trim. Anyone who joins after doesn't get it. Or make it account-based like titles and have individual cape trims regardless of guild membership. Some solution of that nature would work imo.

Psuedo Halgoen · Apr 12, 2007, 02:43 AM // 02:43

Yich, post the screenie!!!!

max gladius · Apr 16, 2007, 03:39 PM // 15:39

not sure if this is spreading, or i am just more aware... but i recently saw another gold trim and another silver trimmed guilds selling invites....

viper11025 · Apr 17, 2007, 11:45 PM // 23:45

Man you guys think you got it bad?
I keep seeing this stuff almost everyday.
Its just messed up.

max gladius · Apr 23, 2007, 01:52 PM // 13:52

bumping to revive the topic... after the long weekend figured this could use some fresh replies

Satans Dominatrix · Apr 23, 2007, 02:30 PM // 14:30

Sorry, but when most people play a game, they don't say to each other "Man, I don't think we should sell memberships, our honor will be ruined"....I mean after all, it is a GAME.

Also, if your really that stupid to BUY your way into a guild, than you deserve to get kick. Its pretty obivous that its a scam.

To the people that just started playing and this happened to them:

When you first play a MMO, you should already know there will be scams.

Don't do anything stupid or risky untill you know what is a scam and what is not.

Get a nice list of friends that are exp in the game and ask them about these things.

Apr 06, 2007, 07:41 AM // 07:41	#121
Vl Vl D Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Australia Guild: [DVDF]	Ive got your name, ive got your number -.- omfg This blows on many levels but the one thing that ticks me off is my guildies that braged bout how they went to try outs for HA , gvg and TA for hours so they could proove themselves to these peeps. After beeing taking in by these guilds they came on ts to tell us how they are joing a better guild because of their rank 2/3 abilties had surpassed that of our guild with rank 3/12 players. Now I find out they paid the guild in qustion just cause of a tin foil cape efect they left a their guild of 1yr1/2.I know you two nubs will read this and expect rage pms and get reading to increase your ignore list.

Apr 06, 2007, 06:15 PM // 18:15	#122
Mohnzh Krytan Explorer Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Might find me roaming around doing missions in hard mode...or maybe I'm lost in the Underworld... Guild: [KCOR] Profession: Mo/	Well, I think that our viewpoints are not too far off, elektra and max. I think some of the discussion is more semantical than topical. I especially like your analagy of using your guild to make money with football. However, it does not completely fit. The scenario is that the capes are used to identify players that are skilled and that should get respect for their skill (not who they are as a person). But now, that standard can no longer be used. Those with trimmed capes may have just as well bought it, rather than earned it. How do those that earned it feel about those getting recognition for their "leetness" when all they did was pay for it? It would be like if Joe Montana's jersey read "Trump" and all of the videos had been photoshopped so that Donald Trump's face was their instead of Joe Montana. Montana gets paid a few hundred million dollars, but Donald Trump is recognized as one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time. Joe Montana is okay with it (not saying he actually would be, but hypothetically) since he sold it. But how would Dan Marino feel about his Hall-of-Fame induction if Donald Trump was already in...having never played a game of football in his life? The Hall of Fame is not for sale, should status by cape design be? Absolutely respect people for their skills...but how can we identify them if what we used in the past is now for sale?

Apr 06, 2007, 06:59 PM // 18:59	#123
OutBidzU Banned Join Date: Apr 2007	Its a game. Who cares? Play it. Its not that big of a deal. People ebay gold. People buy invites to guilds. Its the ingame version of ebaying gold. You can't stop them. Why does it bother you? I agree that it is wrong. But whining about it won't solve anything. In the end. It takes a really desperate person with a low low LOW self esteem to buy an invite to a guild. Instead of getting angry, we should pitty them.

Apr 06, 2007, 08:42 PM // 20:42	#124
chowmein69 Forge Runner Join Date: Jan 2007	i payed 20k to a silver trim guildand then i got kicked out lol ... then i never got money back. lol but itll be nice if the eprsn that got kick and person that invited him returns the money to the person tat got kick

Apr 07, 2007, 07:55 AM // 07:55	#125
max gladius Yep, really is me... Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: My House Guild: L33t	This was the conversation about 10 minutes ago.... Actually got some Anet personnel input on the matter... this is just another persons opinion though...

Apr 08, 2007, 11:25 AM // 11:25	#130
Franco Power Jungle Guide Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: UK Profession: W/	If someone invites anyone to their guild it's their business and none of yours, if they get bad rep or not. See me feeling sorry for some noob PvE'er in Kamadan wanting a silver cape the "easy" way and then geting scammed" , Yes I'm really sorry. Not. Basicly, people have been doing this since ever, the only guild that might have been a bit, erm, unpleasent to people was DeeR, this is basicly like geting power-leveled, or doing that guild hall cheat for survivor, or buying gold off eBay, there are consequences, you cheat, you lose. Maybe if they actually cared about the silver cape that much, they would try and join a gvg guild and maybe take months to get there, but work for it, instead of thinking they can just get the jackpot and buy it off for 10k, lmao 10k. To Wilhelm, yes, my old guild was sold for 1000k, we were going to lose the trim in about 2 weeks, my leader told him that, do you think they cared? No, they still bought it. So basicly, to guilds that might get bad rep doing this, erm you're missing the point here, they are only doing this because they will lose trim soon or are going to disband. Blame, I think your friend was selling guild invites because he knew you guys were going to disband soon, no? To people that might get scammed or not, first, for a PvE'er 10k is nothing, it's like a penny, second, 10k for 24 hours with a trim to walk around showing off and acting like a jerk is a price most of them are willing to pay and don't really care. To the OP. If like you giving a example, joe only had 9.4k, etc etc, well then I doubt joe knows what a silver cape really means, and should really go play the game more, I don't think new players know, what gold/silver/bronze is until later, unless they start pvp'ing straight away and have friends to tell them, but if you are talking about PvE players, I doubt that. Peace~

Apr 08, 2007, 12:35 PM // 12:35	#131
elektra_lucia Banned Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: England Guild: Leteci is [sexy] Profession: Mo/	Being kicked after you buy the invite is scamming and wrong. I don't think anyone can back down from that argument. Buying an invite, selling an invite - aslong as you don't kick the person or what not, it's not scamming. Both parties know what's involved. If of course, you do get scammed (get kicked). It should teach you a lesson. I do think these people who do that should be banned though. I would never buy an invite, but I can support the idea of it. Shame it isn't scam free though.

Apr 08, 2007, 07:26 PM // 19:26	#132
Lydz Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Cape Town, South Africa Guild: The Crazy Dragons [TCD] Profession: E/Mo	I'm fine with it, as long as they don't kick those who pay for invites. I can understand kicking troublesome members, but otherwise not.

Apr 08, 2007, 11:15 PM // 23:15	#133
ShadowsRequiem Furnace Stoker Join Date: Oct 2005 Guild: Inde is Smoking [Hawt] ToA Profession: W/E	Seeing them sell invites is pretty damn low, but you still shouldnt pay for those invites... its just a problem waiting to happen. But I lost most respect from higher guilds seeing as how they trash talked and stuff After seeing what happened to kgyu in the one tournament >_>... wow

Apr 09, 2007, 07:55 PM // 19:55	#134
The Last Preacher Academy Page Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: UK Guild: None and looking! Profession: N/	Dextus Ironheart 'Anyways its free money we might as well.' ...Selfish I agree with this post. A Net has given you an inch and now your trying to take a mile. Just enjoy your trim and stop giving the game a bad name.

Apr 12, 2007, 02:34 AM // 02:34	#135
Alex Morningstar Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2006 Guild: Team Asshat [Hat] leader - [GR] Alliance Profession: Mo/	For the guild that wins the tourny, have all the members in the guild at the time it was earned have the trim. Anyone who joins after doesn't get it. Or make it account-based like titles and have individual cape trims regardless of guild membership. Some solution of that nature would work imo.

Apr 12, 2007, 02:43 AM // 02:43	#136
Psuedo Halgoen Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: GMT+10	Yich, post the screenie!!!!

Apr 16, 2007, 03:39 PM // 15:39	#137
max gladius Yep, really is me... Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: My House Guild: L33t	not sure if this is spreading, or i am just more aware... but i recently saw another gold trim and another silver trimmed guilds selling invites....

Apr 17, 2007, 11:45 PM // 23:45	#138
viper11025 Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: 02/18/05 (Pm me with the place, its a riddle) Profession: A/	Man you guys think you got it bad? I keep seeing this stuff almost everyday. Its just messed up.

Apr 23, 2007, 01:52 PM // 13:52	#139
max gladius Yep, really is me... Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: My House Guild: L33t	bumping to revive the topic... after the long weekend figured this could use some fresh replies

Apr 23, 2007, 02:30 PM // 14:30	#140
Satans Dominatrix Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Not sure...? Guild: Super Atomic Dragons From Space [cool] Profession: R/	Sorry, but when most people play a game, they don't say to each other "Man, I don't think we should sell memberships, our honor will be ruined"....I mean after all, it is a GAME. Also, if your really that stupid to BUY your way into a guild, than you deserve to get kick. Its pretty obivous that its a scam. To the people that just started playing and this happened to them: When you first play a MMO, you should already know there will be scams. Don't do anything stupid or risky untill you know what is a scam and what is not. Get a nice list of friends that are exp in the game and ask them about these things.