Character Creation Question - If I have All Three Games.. - Guild Wars Forums

Stomphoof · Apr 30, 2007, 06:44 PM // 18:44

Can I make say a Dervish and start in say the Prophecies game? Or can I only make a dervish by loading up Nightfall and then taking him to Prophecies?

Honor · Apr 30, 2007, 06:50 PM // 18:50

Dervish and paragon can only start in nightfall and then move over, same for assasins and ritualists must start in Cantha and then travel accordingly

Stomphoof · Apr 30, 2007, 06:52 PM // 18:52

Ok, lets say I do the starter stuff with my elementalist in Factions, could I move him to Prophecies and start at the newbie area in Prophecies?

Painbringer · Apr 30, 2007, 06:53 PM // 18:53

Nightfall is the only starting point for the dervish/paragon
Factions is the only starting point for the Assasin/ritualist
Balance of professions can start anywhere

havok019 · Apr 30, 2007, 07:15 PM // 19:15

You're new elementalist in Factions would have to get through the noob island and onto the mainland in Kaineng Center. You would then have to get to the docks and travel to Lion's Arch (I think there's also a required quest to travel but I can't remember). So you won't be able to get into the pre-searing portion of the Prophecies campaign (if that's what you are asking), as you would effectively already be considered "seared".

Personally, I thought "pre-searing" was pretty much a long waste of time but others find it useful for gathering skills, farming dyes (blacks used to drop frequently here) and also getting some sought-after quest rewards (55 monk weapon and warrior sword skin). If this is what you want to do, you must start your character in Prophecies.

HawkofStorms · Apr 30, 2007, 07:36 PM // 19:36

Ummm -55 monk weapon is in post searing Havok, its just you need a phrophecies character to get the quest.

Stomphoof · Apr 30, 2007, 07:46 PM // 19:46

55 Monk Weapon?

Am I missing anything not doing Prophecies first?

Knightsaber Sith · Apr 30, 2007, 08:08 PM // 20:08

They're just talking about the -50 health cesta thingy you get towards the start of Prophecies. You don't need to worry about that.

Stomphoof · Apr 30, 2007, 08:12 PM // 20:12

-50 health cesta thingy? Sounds...interesting.

Well I thought of another question. Lets say I start a prophecies character. For the sake of argument, lets say he is a Monk.

For my second profession, if I had say Both Factions and Nightfall, could I have his second profession be Dervish without going to Nightfall? Or would I need to go to Nightfall to choose that second profession?

Knightsaber Sith · Apr 30, 2007, 08:16 PM // 20:16

You'd have to take him to Nightfall and switch in the sunspear command post.

Stomphoof · Apr 30, 2007, 08:18 PM // 20:18

Hrm. Is that possible to do easily? Cause it dont sound easy for sure.

isamu kurosawa · Apr 30, 2007, 08:21 PM // 20:21

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Originally Posted by Knightsaber Sith

You'd have to take him to Nightfall and switch in the sunspear command post.

He could walways just hop to the battle isles once he reaches LA and swtich there.

lennymon · Apr 30, 2007, 08:23 PM // 20:23

1: The '55 monk weapon'- It's a 'post searing' but can still only be gotten by a Tyrian as ALL quests are unavailable prior to a certain point for foreigners. Also it is not a weapon, but the -50 offhand reward from 'Cities of Ascalon' most likely.

There was a crystalline *skinned* quest reward sword in PRE searing that is being talked about, it had +5 armor while casting and HCT5%. The quest reward was in fact updated in a recent patch, but I can't remember what was changed, and in fact the wiki item stats may have already been correctly updated.

Regardless of whether the quests are pre or post they are still unavailable for foreigners however.

Knightsaber Sith · Apr 30, 2007, 08:24 PM // 20:24

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Originally Posted by Stomphoof

Hrm. Is that possible to do easily? Cause it dont sound easy for sure.

Well it's not something you can just hop over and do in a couple of minutes, but it's not that hard. I don't know about battle isles stuff...

Stomphoof · Apr 30, 2007, 08:27 PM // 20:27

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Originally Posted by lennymon

1: The '55 monk weapon'- It's a 'post searing' but can still only be gotten by a Tyrian as ALL quests are unavailable prior to a certain point for foreigners. Also it is not a weapon, but the -50 offhand reward from 'Cities of Ascalon' most likely.

There was a crystalline *skinned* quest reward sword in PRE searing that is being talked about, it had +5 armor while casting and HCT5%. The quest reward was in fact updated in a recent patch, but I can't remember what was changed, and in fact the wiki item stats may have already been correctly updated.

Regardless of whether the quests are pre or post they are still unavailable for foreigners however.

You realize I have no idea what you just said, at all, whatsoever. 0_0

I am now further confused.

Knightsaber Sith · Apr 30, 2007, 08:35 PM // 20:35

They're two items you get as quest rewards only available to native Tyrians. The offhand is used by 55 monks for solo farming. And when it was available, people like the long sword that was skinned like crystalline sword so they could pretend they were rich.

Stomphoof · Apr 30, 2007, 08:39 PM // 20:39

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Originally Posted by Knightsaber Sith

They're two items you get as quest rewards only available to native Tyrians. The offhand is used by 55 monks for solo farming. And when it was available, people like the long sword that was skinned like crystalline sword so they could pretend they were rich.

What do you mean by "55 monks"?

Coloneh · Apr 30, 2007, 08:50 PM // 20:50

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Originally Posted by Stomphoof

55 Monk Weapon?

Am I missing anything not doing Prophecies first?

your missing a ton of skill unlocks and learning how to play the game in the only campaign that teaches you.

Valshia · Apr 30, 2007, 09:06 PM // 21:06

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Originally Posted by isamu kurosawa

He could walways just hop to the battle isles once he reaches LA and swtich there.

Except he'd have to do Ascension first (Argury or Napui), no matter what.

lennymon · Apr 30, 2007, 09:51 PM // 21:51

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Originally Posted by Stomphoof

You realize I have no idea what you just said, at all, whatsoever. 0_0

I am now further confused.

Basically what I said was: No you can't go get those 1337sauce quest rewards with a factions OR a nightfall character. No you cant access presearing quests, presearing at all, or almost every post searing quest north east of Lions Arch with any character made in factions or nightfall. The rest were details for which you apparently have no need...

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Originally Posted by Stomphoof

What do you mean by "55 monks"?

hence my previous point about unneeded detail, but... for your reading enjoyment: http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/55_Monk

Apr 30, 2007, 06:44 PM // 18:44	#1
Stomphoof Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Orlando Fl	Character Creation Question - If I have All Three Games.. Can I make say a Dervish and start in say the Prophecies game? Or can I only make a dervish by loading up Nightfall and then taking him to Prophecies?

Apr 30, 2007, 06:50 PM // 18:50	#2
Honor Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Exit 9 NJ Trnpk Guild: The Roaming Gnomes[roam] Profession: N/Me	Dervish and paragon can only start in nightfall and then move over, same for assasins and ritualists must start in Cantha and then travel accordingly

Apr 30, 2007, 06:52 PM // 18:52	#3
Stomphoof Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Orlando Fl	Ok, lets say I do the starter stuff with my elementalist in Factions, could I move him to Prophecies and start at the newbie area in Prophecies?

Apr 30, 2007, 06:53 PM // 18:53	#4
Painbringer Furnace Stoker Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Minnesota Guild: Black Widows of Death Profession: W/Mo	Nightfall is the only starting point for the dervish/paragon Factions is the only starting point for the Assasin/ritualist Balance of professions can start anywhere

Apr 30, 2007, 07:15 PM // 19:15	#5
havok019 Academy Page Join Date: Jan 2007 Guild: HdCr Profession: W/Mo	You're new elementalist in Factions would have to get through the noob island and onto the mainland in Kaineng Center. You would then have to get to the docks and travel to Lion's Arch (I think there's also a required quest to travel but I can't remember). So you won't be able to get into the pre-searing portion of the Prophecies campaign (if that's what you are asking), as you would effectively already be considered "seared". Personally, I thought "pre-searing" was pretty much a long waste of time but others find it useful for gathering skills, farming dyes (blacks used to drop frequently here) and also getting some sought-after quest rewards (55 monk weapon and warrior sword skin). If this is what you want to do, you must start your character in Prophecies.

Apr 30, 2007, 07:36 PM // 19:36	#6
HawkofStorms Hall Hero Join Date: Aug 2005 Profession: E/	Ummm -55 monk weapon is in post searing Havok, its just you need a phrophecies character to get the quest.

Apr 30, 2007, 07:46 PM // 19:46	#7
Stomphoof Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Orlando Fl	55 Monk Weapon? Am I missing anything not doing Prophecies first?

Apr 30, 2007, 08:08 PM // 20:08	#8
Knightsaber Sith Furnace Stoker Join Date: Aug 2006 Guild: Few Fallen Heroes [FFH] Profession: W/E	They're just talking about the -50 health cesta thingy you get towards the start of Prophecies. You don't need to worry about that.

Apr 30, 2007, 08:12 PM // 20:12	#9
Stomphoof Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Orlando Fl	-50 health cesta thingy? Sounds...interesting. Well I thought of another question. Lets say I start a prophecies character. For the sake of argument, lets say he is a Monk. For my second profession, if I had say Both Factions and Nightfall, could I have his second profession be Dervish without going to Nightfall? Or would I need to go to Nightfall to choose that second profession?

Apr 30, 2007, 08:16 PM // 20:16	#10
Knightsaber Sith Furnace Stoker Join Date: Aug 2006 Guild: Few Fallen Heroes [FFH] Profession: W/E	You'd have to take him to Nightfall and switch in the sunspear command post.

Apr 30, 2007, 08:18 PM // 20:18	#11
Stomphoof Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Orlando Fl	Hrm. Is that possible to do easily? Cause it dont sound easy for sure.

Apr 30, 2007, 08:23 PM // 20:23	#13
lennymon Forge Runner Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Seattle Guild: Odin's Hammer [OH] - Servant's of Fortuna [SoF] Profession: R/	1: The '55 monk weapon'- It's a 'post searing' but can still only be gotten by a Tyrian as ALL quests are unavailable prior to a certain point for foreigners. Also it is not a weapon, but the -50 offhand reward from 'Cities of Ascalon' most likely. There was a crystalline skinned quest reward sword in PRE searing that is being talked about, it had +5 armor while casting and HCT5%. The quest reward was in fact updated in a recent patch, but I can't remember what was changed, and in fact the wiki item stats may have already been correctly updated. Regardless of whether the quests are pre or post they are still unavailable for foreigners however.

Apr 30, 2007, 08:35 PM // 20:35	#16
Knightsaber Sith Furnace Stoker Join Date: Aug 2006 Guild: Few Fallen Heroes [FFH] Profession: W/E	They're two items you get as quest rewards only available to native Tyrians. The offhand is used by 55 monks for solo farming. And when it was available, people like the long sword that was skinned like crystalline sword so they could pretend they were rich.