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xromania??? · May 13, 2007, 09:07 AM // 09:07

1. if i have 2 heroes with fire magic the damage stack? i mean skills like Savanah... if 2 heroes cast it on same target usually fire skills stack? but burning stack? is a condition and prolly dont stack

2. i know we can move the templates in other folder but anyway, we can save how many templates we want or is a limit?

3. if i cast a trap and i cast same trap again in other place, the first one remain? and if i cast it in same place, these stack? double damage?

4. A elite tome for derv, for example, unlook all skills on your account or derv skills? where we get these tomes? at end of a campaign?

5. if 2 monks heroes cast same healing speel on same target these stack? usually monk skills from 2 monks on same target stack? Aegis i know cant stack

6. Im running for gold the gate of madness mission but yesterday i died hard, sometimes are bugs in these missions? or was lag? something was different, my party never died so fast before

holababe · May 13, 2007, 09:12 AM // 09:12

1. The damage will stack, conditions won't

2. There is no limit to templates

3. I'm not sure actually. I think they stack, but you can only get a certain amount.

4. Elite tomes teach you any Elite skill that you have previously unlocked in PVP. They drop in Hard Mode.

5. Healing skills (orison of healing) will stack. Enchantments (healing breeze) won't.

6. Don't know.

xromania??? · May 13, 2007, 09:38 AM // 09:38

good answer, thx.

7. Vow of Strength Elite Enchantment Spell- dervish - earth prayers- For 20 seconds, you cannot use attack Skills and your attacks deal 5...41% more damage. I used this many times and i dont see more damage. It mean if your hit have 30 dmg for example, using this skill this hit ill have like 42 dmg (30 + 41%). But a elementalist for example, atacking with a staff and using this skill, ill have this dmg bonus?

8. For 60 seconds, if you're wielding a lightning weapon, your attacks strike for an additional 7...19 lightning damage. If im using this skill on a dervish with a scyte with lighting mod, ill have +19 dmg if air magic is maxed?

about last question -6 - i heard was a bug that night, all had trobles with this mission. U heard things like that before guys?

Hm elite tomes only from bossed in hard mode, but then what we get at end of nigthfall campaign for example? no tomes? but a normal tome not elite what it doing and where we get it?

Yanman.be · May 13, 2007, 09:41 AM // 09:41

Traps will stay untill they are triggered. So you have 90 seconds to trap as much traps as possible.

Skuld · May 13, 2007, 11:34 AM // 11:34

6) you haven't given enough info

7) it should work on any weapon

8) you will deal regular scythe damage and 7..19 damage in a seperate packet

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Hm elite tomes only from bossed in hard mode, but then what we get at end of nigthfall campaign for example? no tomes? but a normal tome not elite what it doing and where we get it?

I do not understand.

Doofledust · May 13, 2007, 11:44 AM // 11:44

I think they mean the Book of Secrets.

xromania??? · May 13, 2007, 11:58 AM // 11:58

Glyph of Elemental Power (Glyph not enchantment) -elementalist -no attribute skill.- For 15 seconds, your elemental attributes are boosted by 2 for your next 5 spells. This +2 bonus work on a dervish for example using fire speels and having points in fire magic?

Skuld · May 13, 2007, 12:01 PM // 12:01

yes

why wouldn't these things work?

xromania??? · May 13, 2007, 12:21 PM // 12:21

k thx, just to be sure, i dont want to buy bad skills. I want to use a staff and ranged spells on my stupid melee dervish cuz the fights look much better if u look from beside (as a caster). For mellee chars is a bad camera, u can see only dust, u cant see the party... sure u can rotate or zoom but is a big effort

Yanman.be · May 13, 2007, 12:37 PM // 12:37

There are no bad skills.

Skuld · May 13, 2007, 01:00 PM // 13:00

don't be so naive

xromania??? · May 13, 2007, 01:07 PM // 13:07

yes there are some skills with no point or funny skills, i saw one where u gain some 5 energy doing a useless thing but the skill itself cost 10 energy:P. Or a skill wich cause exaustion but his description is like "next spell dont cause exaustion" Lol

HawkofStorms · May 13, 2007, 09:58 PM // 21:58

The skill that saved 5 energy but cost 10 energy is probablly because your dervish doesn't have energy storage.
Anyway, if you want to make a caster, use an ele. You'll soon find that your Dervish/Elementalist won't have enough energy to be viable just as a spellcaster.

Soul of the Scythe · May 14, 2007, 02:09 PM // 14:09

Elite Tomes only drop from Bosses and Chests in Hard Mode. Bosses can only drop Elite Tomes of their profession. For example: A Dervish Boss will only drop a Dervish Elite Tome, and Ele Boss will only drop an Ele Elite Tome, etc. Normal Tomes drop from all monsters in Hard Mode but only Rangers will drop Ranger Tomes and only Dervishes will drop Dervish tomes, etc. Tomes can only give you skills that you already have UNLOCKED on your account, that is, if your Dervish is your first character that your playing through Nightfall, then all Dervish Tomes, both Elite and Non-Elite, will be useless to you as a Dervish.

As for the Gate of Madness Mission, need more info, but it sounds like you just got ur ass kicked.

At the end of Nightfall you a green item called a Book of Secrets from the Keeper of Secrets in the Throne of Secrets. You trade this book to one of the 10 Keepers(Keeper of Light, Bone, Steel, Spear, Scythe, Nature, Shadow, Spirits, Elements, Illusion) for a "Forgotten" Weapon.

It is true that there are no "bad" skills, just bad players who don't know how to use these skills effectively. I'm not saying I know how to use every skill in this game effectively cause I don't but I look at skills now that I saw years ago when the game first came out and say, "oh, that skill isn't that bad, i can use that," where, when I first saw it I probably said soemthing like, "wow, that skill sucks" or something.

Dervish/Eles are useful if you utilize the right skills. Point Blank Area of Effect(PbAoE) skills such as Inferno and Phoenix or Lightning Touch in tandem with a Water Ele, can work well with the Dervish's AoE attacks. Energy management will likely be an issue, so consider bringing Fire Attunement and possible Glyph of Lesser Energy(even though its in Energy Storage, it is still effective).

May 13, 2007, 09:07 AM // 09:07	#1
xromania??? Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Transylvania Guild: lor Profession: E/Mo	Hard questions* 1. if i have 2 heroes with fire magic the damage stack? i mean skills like Savanah... if 2 heroes cast it on same target usually fire skills stack? but burning stack? is a condition and prolly dont stack 2. i know we can move the templates in other folder but anyway, we can save how many templates we want or is a limit? 3. if i cast a trap and i cast same trap again in other place, the first one remain? and if i cast it in same place, these stack? double damage? 4. A elite tome for derv, for example, unlook all skills on your account or derv skills? where we get these tomes? at end of a campaign? 5. if 2 monks heroes cast same healing speel on same target these stack? usually monk skills from 2 monks on same target stack? Aegis i know cant stack 6. Im running for gold the gate of madness mission but yesterday i died hard, sometimes are bugs in these missions? or was lag? something was different, my party never died so fast before

May 13, 2007, 09:38 AM // 09:38	#3
xromania??? Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Transylvania Guild: lor Profession: E/Mo	good answer, thx. 7. Vow of Strength Elite Enchantment Spell- dervish - earth prayers- For 20 seconds, you cannot use attack Skills and your attacks deal 5...41% more damage. I used this many times and i dont see more damage. It mean if your hit have 30 dmg for example, using this skill this hit ill have like 42 dmg (30 + 41%). But a elementalist for example, atacking with a staff and using this skill, ill have this dmg bonus? 8. For 60 seconds, if you're wielding a lightning weapon, your attacks strike for an additional 7...19 lightning damage. If im using this skill on a dervish with a scyte with lighting mod, ill have +19 dmg if air magic is maxed? about last question -6 - i heard was a bug that night, all had trobles with this mission. U heard things like that before guys? Hm elite tomes only from bossed in hard mode, but then what we get at end of nigthfall campaign for example? no tomes? but a normal tome not elite what it doing and where we get it? Last edited by xromania???; May 13, 2007 at 09:41 AM // 09:41..

May 14, 2007, 02:09 PM // 14:09	#14
Soul of the Scythe Krytan Explorer Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Boston, MA Guild: Higher Order [HO] Profession: D/	Elite Tomes only drop from Bosses and Chests in Hard Mode. Bosses can only drop Elite Tomes of their profession. For example: A Dervish Boss will only drop a Dervish Elite Tome, and Ele Boss will only drop an Ele Elite Tome, etc. Normal Tomes drop from all monsters in Hard Mode but only Rangers will drop Ranger Tomes and only Dervishes will drop Dervish tomes, etc. Tomes can only give you skills that you already have UNLOCKED on your account, that is, if your Dervish is your first character that your playing through Nightfall, then all Dervish Tomes, both Elite and Non-Elite, will be useless to you as a Dervish. As for the Gate of Madness Mission, need more info, but it sounds like you just got ur ass kicked. At the end of Nightfall you a green item called a Book of Secrets from the Keeper of Secrets in the Throne of Secrets. You trade this book to one of the 10 Keepers(Keeper of Light, Bone, Steel, Spear, Scythe, Nature, Shadow, Spirits, Elements, Illusion) for a "Forgotten" Weapon. It is true that there are no "bad" skills, just bad players who don't know how to use these skills effectively. I'm not saying I know how to use every skill in this game effectively cause I don't but I look at skills now that I saw years ago when the game first came out and say, "oh, that skill isn't that bad, i can use that," where, when I first saw it I probably said soemthing like, "wow, that skill sucks" or something. Dervish/Eles are useful if you utilize the right skills. Point Blank Area of Effect(PbAoE) skills such as Inferno and Phoenix or Lightning Touch in tandem with a Water Ele, can work well with the Dervish's AoE attacks. Energy management will likely be an issue, so consider bringing Fire Attunement and possible Glyph of Lesser Energy(even though its in Energy Storage, it is still effective). Last edited by Soul of the Scythe; May 14, 2007 at 02:59 PM // 14:59..

May 13, 2007, 09:12 AM // 09:12	#2
holababe Jungle Guide Join Date: Dec 2006 Guild: Goon Squad [LLJK] Profession: Mo/	1. The damage will stack, conditions won't 2. There is no limit to templates 3. I'm not sure actually. I think they stack, but you can only get a certain amount. 4. Elite tomes teach you any Elite skill that you have previously unlocked in PVP. They drop in Hard Mode. 5. Healing skills (orison of healing) will stack. Enchantments (healing breeze) won't. 6. Don't know.

May 13, 2007, 09:41 AM // 09:41	#4
Yanman.be Banned Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Belgium Guild: [ROSE] Profession: A/	Traps will stay untill they are triggered. So you have 90 seconds to trap as much traps as possible.

May 13, 2007, 11:44 AM // 11:44	#6
Doofledust Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jun 2006	I think they mean the Book of Secrets.

May 13, 2007, 11:58 AM // 11:58	#7
xromania??? Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Transylvania Guild: lor Profession: E/Mo	Glyph of Elemental Power (Glyph not enchantment) -elementalist -no attribute skill.- For 15 seconds, your elemental attributes are boosted by 2 for your next 5 spells. This +2 bonus work on a dervish for example using fire speels and having points in fire magic?

May 13, 2007, 12:01 PM // 12:01	#8
Skuld Furnace Stoker Join Date: Sep 2005 Guild: Thousend Tigers Apund Ur Head [Ttgr] Profession: A/	yes why wouldn't these things work?

May 13, 2007, 12:21 PM // 12:21	#9
xromania??? Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Transylvania Guild: lor Profession: E/Mo	k thx, just to be sure, i dont want to buy bad skills. I want to use a staff and ranged spells on my stupid melee dervish cuz the fights look much better if u look from beside (as a caster). For mellee chars is a bad camera, u can see only dust, u cant see the party... sure u can rotate or zoom but is a big effort

May 13, 2007, 12:37 PM // 12:37	#10
Yanman.be Banned Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Belgium Guild: [ROSE] Profession: A/	There are no bad skills.

May 13, 2007, 01:00 PM // 13:00	#11
Skuld Furnace Stoker Join Date: Sep 2005 Guild: Thousend Tigers Apund Ur Head [Ttgr] Profession: A/	don't be so naive

May 13, 2007, 01:07 PM // 13:07	#12
xromania??? Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Transylvania Guild: lor Profession: E/Mo	yes there are some skills with no point or funny skills, i saw one where u gain some 5 energy doing a useless thing but the skill itself cost 10 energy:P. Or a skill wich cause exaustion but his description is like "next spell dont cause exaustion" Lol

May 13, 2007, 09:58 PM // 21:58	#13
HawkofStorms Hall Hero Join Date: Aug 2005 Profession: E/	The skill that saved 5 energy but cost 10 energy is probablly because your dervish doesn't have energy storage. Anyway, if you want to make a caster, use an ele. You'll soon find that your Dervish/Elementalist won't have enough energy to be viable just as a spellcaster.