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Old Oct 02, 2007, 11:17 AM // 11:17   #1
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At the Remains of Sahlahja people look for others to farm for points, i just wanted to know how does this work and whats the difference apart from drops to do it with H/H and also what do you actually do please
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Old Oct 02, 2007, 11:45 AM // 11:45   #2
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The path to farm in The Sulfurous WastesThis entire run is done while inside junundu, making it the safest way to farm Lightbringer points in Hard Mode.

The quests A Show of Force and Requiem for a Brain may be combined with Hard Mode to farm Lightbringer points. Make sure to talk to Palawa Joko in the Bone Palace, then go back and talk to Officer Lohru in Remains of Sahlahja to complete the first part of A Show of Force - you must have the Rune of DOOM (which you get when you speak to Lohru the second time) in your inventory or the Abaddon Shrines (see below) will not activate.

Leave from Remains of Sahlahja and head to the resurrection shrine in the northwest for the Margonite bounty (6). (You can ignore Officer Lohru and the minions.) Head on down towards the temple (10), and just outside it will be three groups of 5 Margonites for the Requiem quest. After killing them, pick up (and then drop) the Ancient Tome of Knowledge, causing two more groups of Margonites to spawn near (9) for you to kill. Each of these groups will have 5 Margonites, so 5 groups of 5 = 25 Margonites, the requirement for the maximum boss point bonus.

The value of A Show of Force is that the Abaddon Shrine in the southwest corner of the temple spawns three Margonite bosses at once, giving you 468 Lightbringer points if you have reached the limit of 25 Margonites killed, which you got from the Requiem groups outside. Clear out the Graven Monoliths inside the temple, then activate ONLY the southwest shrine and kill the bosses. Activating all the shrines will complete the quest, forcing you to abandon and start over. Once complete, return to Remains of Sahlahja and restart the run; both quests will automatically reset.

This run may be combined with the popular Sulfurous Wastes Sunspear points farming run as the paths are the same (undead bounty at (1), groups of Awakened at (3-5), and Alem the Unclean near the temple (9)).

A combined run takes 10 minutes or less with a full party and is worth approximately 500 Sunspear promotion points and 650 Lightbringer points, which comes to 3000 Sunspear and 3900 Lightbringer points per hour.
A Lightbringer-only run takes about 8 minutes with a full party.
A popular variation on the run uses only a 5-man team in order to increase the chance of rare drops, and because of the reduced firepower, it takes about 15 minutes.
To save some time, you can also spawn the 3 Margonite bosses right away and ignore the Monoliths. You will need to be well coordinated though as the vast amount of Monoliths can very well overwhelm you, so 5-man parties will probably not survive this tactic.
From my experience, about one in four PUGs has someone that screws up the run in some way, so you might want to go with 3 heroes and a hench. I didn't notice much of a difference in personal drops either way. You are in a wurm the whole time so party composition doesn't matter. Nor does level matter. In fact, it's a great way to level up your heroes if they aren't lvl 20 yet.
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Old Oct 02, 2007, 11:51 AM // 11:51   #3
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People think they get more gold drops as they go with a pug. This is just visual illusion. Lets say you go with a group of 5 people and you get 1 gold drop and the total gold drops were 3. You saw 3 gold drops falling. Now you go with 4 heroes. You get 1 gold drop maybe the heroes get some gold drops too but you can not see those so you think there was only 1 gold drop.
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Old Oct 02, 2007, 02:37 PM // 14:37   #4
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From my experience, about one in four PUGs has someone that screws up the run in some way, so you might want to go with 3 heroes and a hench. I didn't notice much of a difference in personal drops either way. You are in a wurm the whole time so party composition doesn't matter. Nor does level matter. In fact, it's a great way to level up your heroes if they aren't lvl 20 yet.
You've had really, really bad luck with PUGs then. I've only had one bad PUG doing the LB/SS run - just one!

OP - the best way to learn that run is to just get in a PUG and go do it. Do what everyone else does, pay attention to where they go, and know that using Jujindu Wail will rez your party members!
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Old Oct 02, 2007, 02:42 PM // 14:42   #5
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You've had really, really bad luck with PUGs then. I've only had one bad PUG doing the LB/SS run - just one!

OP - the best way to learn that run is to just get in a PUG and go do it. Do what everyone else does, pay attention to where they go, and know that using Jujindu Wail will rez your party members!
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Old Oct 02, 2007, 07:33 PM // 19:33   #6
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Me and my boyfriend do that run with a full team of 8 (us and 6 heroes). We usually come out 2 to 3 gold (usually runes) each plus other colour odds and ends. The way I look at it is, I'm only getting 1/8 (or 1/4, 5, 6 if the team isn't a full team) of the loot if I go with real people or not. What's the difference... Once you do it once, you'll know it pretty well.
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Old Oct 02, 2007, 08:50 PM // 20:50   #7
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Also what shrines do you guys open?
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Old Oct 03, 2007, 06:07 AM // 06:07   #8
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You only open one shrine, which is the bottom right one. It's the one that spawns bosses, so no need to do any others.

I did most of the farming with Hench, because they weren't retarded and actually knew how to res....
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Old Oct 03, 2007, 10:29 AM // 10:29   #9
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Me and my guild mates had so much fun doing this, our sport was to pre-wail someone. That means use the res skill before he or she is dead, and then time it so that when he or she really dies the skills is completed so you can fight again and have not lied dead long. It is fun to do it with pgus but i had some bad experiences.
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Old Oct 03, 2007, 10:42 AM // 10:42   #10
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Did this run the other day with a PUG and got reprimanded by some miserable sod for saying "gz" when another party member dropped a gold.

At least hench and heroes don't do that!
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Old Oct 03, 2007, 11:51 AM // 11:51   #11
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Just join an ss/lb farming group and go with the crowd. Usually someone will have both quests. At the end don't touch any shrines. Let someone else do it. Just kill stuff and get the drops. Be sure to talk to the NPC's so you're getting the ss and lb points. If the party leader forgets to switch to HM before going thru the portal, just remind that person and you won't be seen as a newcomer anymore. It will probably happen. By not getting the quests it may seem like letting someone else do the work. But you're doing plenty of work by killing stuff in the wurm so as the saying goes, "it's all good." (I myself don't like that phrase, it's annoying generation x-ish)
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