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Tutis Evito · Oct 04, 2007, 10:55 AM // 10:55

I play ranger primarly and find it hard to pug in elite area's other than that they are widely accetpted

Masseur · Oct 04, 2007, 05:34 PM // 17:34

My Ranger has absolutely NO problem getting into FoW and UW or wherever as I'm setup as Interrupts/degen. In the higher areas, they are always looking for Interrupts.

In answer to your question, Rits are very fun and are fairly popular depending on the area/mission/quest

Tutis Evito · Oct 04, 2007, 05:58 PM // 17:58

I agree, fow and uw are fine for ranger, i meant the deep in particular...i remember getting there as my ranger and getting flamed with people saying 'why are you here, this isnt a place for rangers, get lost etc'

Serra_Nightbloom · Oct 04, 2007, 07:02 PM // 19:02

My list of most accepted professions in PVE elite areas:

1. Monks, 2 or more monks are usually in the party to heal, prot, or bond.
2. Ele, 2 or more to deal massive AOE damage.
3. Necro, usually 1 but sometimes 2 for AOE or Degen (SS, MM, BiP, SV, SoS, or FoC).
4. Stance Tank to gather and hold agro (At 4 because you only need one).
5. Ranger, biggest problem is the need to be line of sight (Barrage/Splinter/Interrupt, BHA/Conditions/Epidemic).
6. Ritualist (Spirit Spammer, Splinter/Barrage/Interrupt, Healer)
7. Dervish (Tank replacement)
8. Paragon
9. Mesmer
10. Assassin, most unloved class.

Bowstring Badass · Oct 04, 2007, 07:25 PM // 19:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Serra_Nightbloom

My list of most accepted professions in PVE elite areas:
10. Assassin, most unloved class.

I disagree here. I find it easier to find a group on my sin then anything else then again it only takes me about 2 minutes to find a group for anything that I am doing.

chillpill_2u · Oct 04, 2007, 07:35 PM // 19:35

Why are mesmers so underrated? I think they are a great class, in fact in alot of the missions that I do with henchies and heroes I pick the mesmer and it makes the fighting much easier. Just my .2 cents.

Serra_Nightbloom · Oct 04, 2007, 08:02 PM // 20:02

Bowstring Baddass,

I'm just recalling my experience of the type of groups forming and professions being requested at the various elite areas (FoW, The Underworld, The Deep, Urgoz Warren, GoA, Slavers Exile).

In these areas, I have never seen a serious post of a "GLF Assassin" (Group Looking For Assassin). The same can be said regarding the Ritualist, Dervish, Paragon and Mesmer professions.

There are some team builds that use these underused professions (usually guild groups looking to try something different).

Plushie Penguin · Oct 04, 2007, 09:49 PM // 21:49

Well, at least for me, when I do play my ritualist, she can get a group rather quickly. Personally I think it's because I can use the typical pain/bloodsong/shadowsong/vampirism or be a replacement monk. If I ever really bothered to start a group, I guess this is how I would have my order of preference:
-Monk/restorationRt
-Warrior[kept to one or two]
-Tanking Dervish[only if there arn't any warriors around]
-Rest of the group made of non-mele damage, don't really care much
-Assassin/nontanking Dervish[mele=

] (I might even take a assassin over a dervish, depending on how the group is and how I'm feeling)
-Mesmer[hate to say it, but this class usually sucks outside of what the skill set is set for, ex:degen, interrupting spell casters, anti-mele.... any good mesmer won't be set for more then one kind of target.]

I know I stuck ele, ranger, necro, paragon, non-rest rits in the third spot, that's because once the team has the meat shields and the healers, all you really need is damage, the non-mele kind. Alot of people who have posted in this topic have listed classes by their names, rather then what true position they fill in a team... Most of us can agree that some classes would be higher up depending on what the quest/mission/whatever has in the way of mobs[EX:I was asked to bring my monk as a smiter for Divinity coast on hard mode after we had two healers], weaknesses[fire>ice, typical elemental mob armor stuff], or proven effective builds[spoil victor for our friend shiro on necros].

As for what chillpill said[two posts up from this], I wouldn't say that mesmers are "bad" class as much as, there are other classes that can do the same thing, and still be able to do something else as well. A ranger can hit a monk with concussion shot or broad head arrow to daze them, no need for nearly all of their skill bar to be set to interrupt. Maybe the best way to put it is that mesmers need to devote more of their skill slots to be able to compete with another class who can use just one or two slots to do the same thing.

freaky naughty · Oct 04, 2007, 11:16 PM // 23:16

I hate the damn holy trinity it just destroys other players creativity.

However ignoring that I'd say the list goes a bit like this:

1.Monk
2.Warrior
3.Elementalist (that damn holy trinity)
4.Necro
5.Ranger
6.Ritualist
7.Paragon
8.Mesmer
9.Dervish
10.Assassin

For the record I don't agree with profession discrimination but for a list of most discriminated classes this would be it.

freaky naughty · Oct 04, 2007, 11:18 PM // 23:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowstring Badass

I disagree here. I find it easier to find a group on my sin then anything else then again it only takes me about 2 minutes to find a group for anything that I am doing.

Whoa what GW are you playing? On my sin I just go hench

Age · Oct 04, 2007, 11:28 PM // 23:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by freaky naughty

I hate the damn holy trinity it just destroys other players creativity.

However ignoring that I'd say the list goes a bit like this:

1.Monk
2.Warrior
3.Elementalist (that damn holy trinity)
4.Necro
5.Ranger
6.Ritualist
7.Paragon
8.Mesmer
9.Dervish
10.Assassin

For the record I don't agree with profession discrimination but for a list of most discriminated classes this would be it.

I couldn't of said any better sometimes Ranger then Necro.

Serra_Nightbloom · Oct 08, 2007, 04:39 PM // 16:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by freaky naughty

I hate the damn holy trinity it just destroys other players creativity.

However ignoring that I'd say the list goes a bit like this:

1.Monk
2.Warrior
3.Elementalist (that damn holy trinity)
4.Necro
5.Ranger
6.Ritualist
7.Paragon
8.Mesmer
9.Dervish
10.Assassin

For the record I don't agree with profession discrimination but for a list of most discriminated classes this would be it.

But there is only one warrior in most groups, for most parties there will be multiple monks for healing and multiple damage dealers (ele, necro, ranger).

You only need one stance tank in a elite group (except for the deep). Thats why I put warrior further down on my list.

Coloneh · Oct 08, 2007, 10:57 PM // 22:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by chillpill_2u

Why are mesmers so underrated? I think they are a great class, in fact in alot of the missions that I do with henchies and heroes I pick the mesmer and it makes the fighting much easier. Just my .2 cents.

because anyting a mesmer primary can do a N/Me or E/Me can do better.

Crom The Pale · Oct 09, 2007, 12:26 AM // 00:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coloneh

because anyting a mesmer primary can do a N/Me or E/Me can do better.

Not exactly true.

The main problem with memsers is that they tend to be built around shutting down one class of foes and weak to all others.

If you try for a balanced build your just not strong enough against any to be of benifit to a party.

A pure anti-melee mesmer can destroy a war with little effort but is toast vs most casters.

A pure anti-caster mesmer may take out a caster fast and easy but a war will deal 33% of his hit points in dmg to him per hit.(not in every case but in pve vs lvl 28wars and such)

SotiCoto · Oct 09, 2007, 08:35 AM // 08:35

Simple enough question:

Do all the Elite Dungeons have critters that can damage through or otherwise stop / strip Shadow Form? I mean aside from Urgoz Warren, which I know has Hopping Vampires of much doominess...

Might seem like a downright silly question.... but given that yesterday I was running around Nahpui Quarter (mission) in Hard Mode looking for Locked Chests.... in perpetual Shadow Form.... and the only thing I had to watch out for was the Celestial Phoenix's leech signet..... I'm figuring there is quite an amount out there that an Assassin could POTENTIALLY tank.

... Then again, after my experience trying that in the Garden of Seborhin, I concluded that enemies generally tire very quickly of targets they cannot even hit nor cast spells at, and will tend to go for any other fleshie within range at first oppurtunity. Holding Aggro in Shadow Form isn't the easiest thing in the world unless you're the only target there.

Crom The Pale · Oct 09, 2007, 10:39 PM // 22:39

There are a few skills that will strip shadow form, Chillblians for one, and most foes in an area have at least one of these. Now in Prophicies your more likely to find a few maps that contain nothing that could hurt you, but in Nightfall and GW:EN chances are something out there has your number.

jimmyboveto · Oct 09, 2007, 10:45 PM // 22:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darko_UK

Would hardly put ranger in that top 4, Try getting in any elite areas (Par tombs and fow/uw) with a ranger. They are hardly sought after. I'd replace Necro with Ranger

Umm, this is just wrong. People are constantly doing BP(barrage pet) teams in places like urgoz, tombs, and sorrow's furnace. Also, people make trapping groups in places like the Under World. In terms of HM, rangers are also used a lot as their interrupt skills, such as broad head arrow, are extremely good at handling monks and elementalists.

Oct 04, 2007, 09:49 PM // 21:49	#28
Plushie Penguin Krytan Explorer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: That plushie penguin on a shelf in your bed room Profession: Rt/E	Well, at least for me, when I do play my ritualist, she can get a group rather quickly. Personally I think it's because I can use the typical pain/bloodsong/shadowsong/vampirism or be a replacement monk. If I ever really bothered to start a group, I guess this is how I would have my order of preference: -Monk/restorationRt -Warrior[kept to one or two] -Tanking Dervish[only if there arn't any warriors around] -Rest of the group made of non-mele damage, don't really care much -Assassin/nontanking Dervish[mele= ] (I might even take a assassin over a dervish, depending on how the group is and how I'm feeling) -Mesmer[hate to say it, but this class usually sucks outside of what the skill set is set for, ex:degen, interrupting spell casters, anti-mele.... any good mesmer won't be set for more then one kind of target.] I know I stuck ele, ranger, necro, paragon, non-rest rits in the third spot, that's because once the team has the meat shields and the healers, all you really need is damage, the non-mele kind. Alot of people who have posted in this topic have listed classes by their names, rather then what true position they fill in a team... Most of us can agree that some classes would be higher up depending on what the quest/mission/whatever has in the way of mobs[EX:I was asked to bring my monk as a smiter for Divinity coast on hard mode after we had two healers], weaknesses[fire>ice, typical elemental mob armor stuff], or proven effective builds[spoil victor for our friend shiro on necros]. As for what chillpill said[two posts up from this], I wouldn't say that mesmers are "bad" class as much as, there are other classes that can do the same thing, and still be able to do something else as well. A ranger can hit a monk with concussion shot or broad head arrow to daze them, no need for nearly all of their skill bar to be set to interrupt. Maybe the best way to put it is that mesmers need to devote more of their skill slots to be able to compete with another class who can use just one or two slots to do the same thing. Last edited by Plushie Penguin; Oct 04, 2007 at 10:04 PM // 22:04..

Oct 04, 2007, 10:55 AM // 10:55	#21
Tutis Evito Krytan Explorer Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: England,UK Guild: Incredible Edible Bookah [YUM] Profession: R/	I play ranger primarly and find it hard to pug in elite area's other than that they are widely accetpted

Oct 04, 2007, 05:34 PM // 17:34	#22
Masseur Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Southern California Profession: R/Mo	My Ranger has absolutely NO problem getting into FoW and UW or wherever as I'm setup as Interrupts/degen. In the higher areas, they are always looking for Interrupts. In answer to your question, Rits are very fun and are fairly popular depending on the area/mission/quest

Oct 04, 2007, 05:58 PM // 17:58	#23
Tutis Evito Krytan Explorer Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: England,UK Guild: Incredible Edible Bookah [YUM] Profession: R/	I agree, fow and uw are fine for ranger, i meant the deep in particular...i remember getting there as my ranger and getting flamed with people saying 'why are you here, this isnt a place for rangers, get lost etc'

Oct 04, 2007, 07:02 PM // 19:02	#24
Serra_Nightbloom Academy Page Join Date: Jun 2006 Profession: N/Me	My list of most accepted professions in PVE elite areas: 1. Monks, 2 or more monks are usually in the party to heal, prot, or bond. 2. Ele, 2 or more to deal massive AOE damage. 3. Necro, usually 1 but sometimes 2 for AOE or Degen (SS, MM, BiP, SV, SoS, or FoC). 4. Stance Tank to gather and hold agro (At 4 because you only need one). 5. Ranger, biggest problem is the need to be line of sight (Barrage/Splinter/Interrupt, BHA/Conditions/Epidemic). 6. Ritualist (Spirit Spammer, Splinter/Barrage/Interrupt, Healer) 7. Dervish (Tank replacement) 8. Paragon 9. Mesmer 10. Assassin, most unloved class.

Oct 04, 2007, 07:35 PM // 19:35	#26
chillpill_2u Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Aug 2007 Profession: W/Mo	Why are mesmers so underrated? I think they are a great class, in fact in alot of the missions that I do with henchies and heroes I pick the mesmer and it makes the fighting much easier. Just my .2 cents.

Oct 04, 2007, 08:02 PM // 20:02	#27
Serra_Nightbloom Academy Page Join Date: Jun 2006 Profession: N/Me	Bowstring Baddass, I'm just recalling my experience of the type of groups forming and professions being requested at the various elite areas (FoW, The Underworld, The Deep, Urgoz Warren, GoA, Slavers Exile). In these areas, I have never seen a serious post of a "GLF Assassin" (Group Looking For Assassin). The same can be said regarding the Ritualist, Dervish, Paragon and Mesmer professions. There are some team builds that use these underused professions (usually guild groups looking to try something different).

Oct 04, 2007, 11:16 PM // 23:16	#29
freaky naughty Krytan Explorer Join Date: Sep 2007 Profession: Mo/N	I hate the damn holy trinity it just destroys other players creativity. However ignoring that I'd say the list goes a bit like this: 1.Monk 2.Warrior 3.Elementalist (that damn holy trinity) 4.Necro 5.Ranger 6.Ritualist 7.Paragon 8.Mesmer 9.Dervish 10.Assassin For the record I don't agree with profession discrimination but for a list of most discriminated classes this would be it.

Oct 09, 2007, 08:35 AM // 08:35	#35
SotiCoto Banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Drazach Thicket Guild: Temple of Zhen Xianren [Sifu]	Simple enough question: Do all the Elite Dungeons have critters that can damage through or otherwise stop / strip Shadow Form? I mean aside from Urgoz Warren, which I know has Hopping Vampires of much doominess... Might seem like a downright silly question.... but given that yesterday I was running around Nahpui Quarter (mission) in Hard Mode looking for Locked Chests.... in perpetual Shadow Form.... and the only thing I had to watch out for was the Celestial Phoenix's leech signet..... I'm figuring there is quite an amount out there that an Assassin could POTENTIALLY tank. ... Then again, after my experience trying that in the Garden of Seborhin, I concluded that enemies generally tire very quickly of targets they cannot even hit nor cast spells at, and will tend to go for any other fleshie within range at first oppurtunity. Holding Aggro in Shadow Form isn't the easiest thing in the world unless you're the only target there.

Oct 09, 2007, 10:39 PM // 22:39	#36
Crom The Pale Furnace Stoker Join Date: Nov 2006 Guild: Ageis Ascending Profession: W/	There are a few skills that will strip shadow form, Chillblians for one, and most foes in an area have at least one of these. Now in Prophicies your more likely to find a few maps that contain nothing that could hurt you, but in Nightfall and GW:EN chances are something out there has your number.