Gold Item Drops in HM - Guild Wars Forums

dts720666 · Oct 22, 2007, 09:15 PM // 21:15

I have just begun work on Vanquishing All four Campaigns, and began with Prophecies. I just completed the six or seven explorable areas near and around Old Ascalon.

It's nice because I can keep track of how many gold items drops I get in relation to how many foes I kill. So far, I am averaging just under 1%. That is, I get about one gold item for every 100 foes killed. This includes drops from locked chests. In fact, I almost never get a gold from a locked chest. I nearly always get grapes from those.

What I do is when I vanquish an area, I check the number of foes I killed, and then check my inventory for how many gold drops I got. It has been right about 1 drop per 100 foes.

My question is this: Is this what I should expect throughout the rest of Vanquishing? If so, how am I ever going to max out my wisdom title track? According to the guildwars wiki, there are only about 31,000 foes total. At 1% drop rate, I will only get 310 golds! This will barely get me past level 2 on my wisdom title track.

I guess I can always buy unid golds in towns and outposts.

Can I expect to get more gold drops as I make progress in vanquishing other areas?

Molock · Oct 22, 2007, 09:19 PM // 21:19

Its called chest running... just not in Ascalon...FoW for example

BTW, the foes re-populate the area after you leave so you can kill an infinite number of foes.

dts720666 · Oct 22, 2007, 09:51 PM // 21:51

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Originally Posted by Molock

Its called chest running... just not in Ascalon...FoW for example

BTW, the foes re-populate the area after you leave so you can kill an infinite number of foes.

True, true.

But is 1% gold drops still what I should expect across all campaigns? Also, with the gold drop rate from locked chests being so low for me, I'm not sure what chest runs will accomplish other than helping with my treasure hunter and luck/unlucky title tracks.

I've been keeping track of gold drops from locked chests as well, and also lockpick retention rate. I get about one gold drop for every 8 locked chests opened. In HM, my lockpick retention rate is 22%. So, I use three picks to open four chests, or six picks to open eight chests, getting me one gold item.

At 1200g per pick from discount merchant, each gold item is costing me 7200g. To get the wisdom title track, I'd be better off buying unid golds. I see them all all the time in Kamadan...7 unid for 5-7k. To get treasure hunter, I could do chest runs on the 600g chests in NM, getting all grapes.

Crom The Pale · Oct 22, 2007, 11:52 PM // 23:52

Actually youve been lucky.

My ratio is more like 1 for every 300 kills.

The title takes a long time and a fair bit of cash to achieve. You can up your chances of gaining gold drops by fighting with smaller teams in Hard Mode maps. A 1-2 man team can farm golds 2x faster in Old Ascalon vs your standard 4man team.

wetsparks · Oct 23, 2007, 02:30 AM // 02:30

You might end up getting more gold drops in the later portions of the game as they are supposed to be harder. But to max out wisdom/treasure hunter is to do a lot of farming.

iridescentfyre · Oct 23, 2007, 02:36 AM // 02:36

You can effectively up that percentage by giving all of your gold drops--still unidentified of course--to the character you want to have the title. Also it helps to get the free Treasure Chests in Elona. Those usually net lots of gold items your first or second time through them for each character.

1% gold drop chance seems very low to me, going by my own Hard Mode experience. I've never done any testing so I could be way off but if I had to give an estimate, I would say more like 1/30 or 1/40 chance. Whether or not they're Merchant-worthy garbage is another matter, naturally..

arsie · Oct 23, 2007, 03:22 AM // 03:22

All my golds are IDed by the same character, but she still breaks almost everything she salvages.

SIGH

Targuil · Oct 23, 2007, 03:56 AM // 03:56

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Originally Posted by iridescentfyre

1% gold drop chance seems very low to me, going by my own Hard Mode experience. I've never done any testing so I could be way off but if I had to give an estimate, I would say more like 1/30 or 1/40 chance. Whether or not they're Merchant-worthy garbage is another matter, naturally..

Agreed.

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Originally Posted by dts720666

I've been keeping track of gold drops from locked chests as well, and also lockpick retention rate. I get about one gold drop for every 8 locked chests opened. In HM, my lockpick retention rate is 22%. So, I use three picks to open four chests, or six picks to open eight chests, getting me one gold item.

I get over 60% gold from locked chests.

jimmyboveto · Oct 23, 2007, 04:46 AM // 04:46

Golds were not affected by the loot scaling update. Playing in a party of 8 means you are getting 1/8 the amount of golds you could get my soloing. If you really want that wisdom title, and you don't want to have to pay for the golds... i suggest you do some HM solo farming, such as with a 55 monk or 330 ritualist.

Buzzer · Oct 23, 2007, 07:01 AM // 07:01

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Originally Posted by dts720666

I've been keeping track of gold drops from locked chests as well, and also lockpick retention rate. I get about one gold drop for every 8 locked chests opened. In HM, my lockpick retention rate is 22%. So, I use three picks to open four chests, or six picks to open eight chests, getting me one gold item.

Serious? Hard mode chests drop at least 50% golds for me.

malko050987 · Oct 23, 2007, 12:40 PM // 12:40

Best way to get the Wisdom title is to buy the 7=5k things. It benefits the seller, and you have a chance to get great items (like a 20/20, +30, 15^50, dead bow I got once). And at about 750-ish gold per item, it's basically like a chest run with a guarantee of a gold drop. Sure, the items are usually crap or only have a mod or two that's salvageable, but if you want the title, it's the fastest and easiest way. Might be the cheapest, too.

Khazad Guard · Oct 23, 2007, 01:22 PM // 13:22

My 55 vanquishes Cursed Lands and she gets more than 1 gold per 100kills :P There isnt even 100 monsters in Cursed Lands

scraggles · Oct 23, 2007, 01:34 PM // 13:34

I'm amazed. In my farming I get at least a 10-20% gold drop ratio. I've been having great luck with it. I noticed last night that in HM I had killed 16 monsters in the area I was in, and 4 golds, 2 blue, and 4 purples dropped.

I was wondering how much money I was making per hour doing the run that I was doing, at the same time I was zoned in on Prison Break, and then Heroes. In 2 hours while playing basically during commercials only I made just over 10k.

In just over 3 days I'm up to 102k. Mostly from merching goods. Including dozens upon dozens of golds. I'll have to see how many I've ID'd on that character.

Antheus · Oct 23, 2007, 04:44 PM // 16:44

I get 5+ golds per snowman dungeon run in HM, chests included.

Probably the fastest way to level those two titles.

Hyper.nl · Oct 24, 2007, 06:43 AM // 06:43

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Originally Posted by Antheus

I get 5+ golds per snowman dungeon run in HM, chests included.

Probably the fastest way to level those two titles.

That's a lot. What was your party size? I usually ended up without any golds when completing this dungeon over and over again with full hero/hench party. (I don't open locked chests -- it's not worth the money imo.

dts720666 · Oct 24, 2007, 07:16 PM // 19:16

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Originally Posted by malko050987

Best way to get the Wisdom title is to buy the 7=5k things. It benefits the seller, and you have a chance to get great items (like a 20/20, +30, 15^50, dead bow I got once). And at about 750-ish gold per item, it's basically like a chest run with a guarantee of a gold drop. Sure, the items are usually crap or only have a mod or two that's salvageable, but if you want the title, it's the fastest and easiest way. Might be the cheapest, too.

Yeah, I broke down and started doing this two days ago. So far, I've bought about 100 golds. From them, I have salvaged about 20 perfect mods for various weapons, and a Superior Rune of Vigor!!!!! I merch most everything for about 200-300g, so each gold only costs me about 400-500g. Much cheaper than lockpicks!

Painbringer · Oct 24, 2007, 09:01 PM // 21:01

55 quest Hard Mode exploit in Nightfall (Mutu quest) 2-3 gold per run and boat load of sellable stuff.

scraggles · Oct 24, 2007, 09:45 PM // 21:45

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Originally Posted by Painbringer

55 quest Hard Mode exploit in Nightfall (Mutu quest) 2-3 gold per run and boat load of sellable stuff.

I need to beat nightfall.

Crom The Pale · Oct 25, 2007, 12:38 AM // 00:38

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Originally Posted by malko050987

Best way to get the Wisdom title is to buy the 7=5k things. It benefits the seller, and you have a chance to get great items (like a 20/20, +30, 15^50, dead bow I got once). And at about 750-ish gold per item, it's basically like a chest run with a guarantee of a gold drop. Sure, the items are usually crap or only have a mod or two that's salvageable, but if you want the title, it's the fastest and easiest way. Might be the cheapest, too.

NOTE* since its extremely easy to determine most mods on unidentified items it is unlikely you will get any good mods from purchasing unident items. You may get some nice inscriptions but no perfect HP mods.

scraggles · Oct 25, 2007, 10:20 AM // 10:20

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Originally Posted by Crom The Pale

NOTE* since its extremely easy to determine most mods on unidentified items it is unlikely you will get any good mods from purchasing unident items. You may get some nice inscriptions but no perfect HP mods.

How do you do that... with xray glasses?

Oct 22, 2007, 09:15 PM // 21:15	#1
dts720666 Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Apr 2007 Profession: E/Me	Gold Item Drops in HM I have just begun work on Vanquishing All four Campaigns, and began with Prophecies. I just completed the six or seven explorable areas near and around Old Ascalon. It's nice because I can keep track of how many gold items drops I get in relation to how many foes I kill. So far, I am averaging just under 1%. That is, I get about one gold item for every 100 foes killed. This includes drops from locked chests. In fact, I almost never get a gold from a locked chest. I nearly always get grapes from those. What I do is when I vanquish an area, I check the number of foes I killed, and then check my inventory for how many gold drops I got. It has been right about 1 drop per 100 foes. My question is this: Is this what I should expect throughout the rest of Vanquishing? If so, how am I ever going to max out my wisdom title track? According to the guildwars wiki, there are only about 31,000 foes total. At 1% drop rate, I will only get 310 golds! This will barely get me past level 2 on my wisdom title track. I guess I can always buy unid golds in towns and outposts. Can I expect to get more gold drops as I make progress in vanquishing other areas?

Oct 23, 2007, 02:36 AM // 02:36	#6
iridescentfyre Desert Nomad Join Date: Mar 2006 Profession: W/	You can effectively up that percentage by giving all of your gold drops--still unidentified of course--to the character you want to have the title. Also it helps to get the free Treasure Chests in Elona. Those usually net lots of gold items your first or second time through them for each character. 1% gold drop chance seems very low to me, going by my own Hard Mode experience. I've never done any testing so I could be way off but if I had to give an estimate, I would say more like 1/30 or 1/40 chance. Whether or not they're Merchant-worthy garbage is another matter, naturally.. Last edited by iridescentfyre; Oct 23, 2007 at 02:40 AM // 02:40..

Oct 23, 2007, 01:34 PM // 13:34	#13
scraggles Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jul 2006 Guild: LaZy	I'm amazed. In my farming I get at least a 10-20% gold drop ratio. I've been having great luck with it. I noticed last night that in HM I had killed 16 monsters in the area I was in, and 4 golds, 2 blue, and 4 purples dropped. I was wondering how much money I was making per hour doing the run that I was doing, at the same time I was zoned in on Prison Break, and then Heroes. In 2 hours while playing basically during commercials only I made just over 10k. In just over 3 days I'm up to 102k. Mostly from merching goods. Including dozens upon dozens of golds. I'll have to see how many I've ID'd on that character. Last edited by scraggles; Oct 23, 2007 at 01:38 PM // 13:38..

Oct 22, 2007, 09:19 PM // 21:19	#2
Molock Desert Nomad Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Qu??bec Guild: Legacy of Angels [Halo] Profession: E/	Its called chest running... just not in Ascalon...FoW for example BTW, the foes re-populate the area after you leave so you can kill an infinite number of foes.

Oct 22, 2007, 11:52 PM // 23:52	#4
Crom The Pale Furnace Stoker Join Date: Nov 2006 Guild: Ageis Ascending Profession: W/	Actually youve been lucky. My ratio is more like 1 for every 300 kills. The title takes a long time and a fair bit of cash to achieve. You can up your chances of gaining gold drops by fighting with smaller teams in Hard Mode maps. A 1-2 man team can farm golds 2x faster in Old Ascalon vs your standard 4man team.

Oct 23, 2007, 02:30 AM // 02:30	#5
wetsparks Desert Nomad Join Date: Nov 2006	You might end up getting more gold drops in the later portions of the game as they are supposed to be harder. But to max out wisdom/treasure hunter is to do a lot of farming.

Oct 23, 2007, 03:22 AM // 03:22	#7
arsie Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jun 2007 Profession: N/	All my golds are IDed by the same character, but she still breaks almost everything she salvages. SIGH

Oct 23, 2007, 04:46 AM // 04:46	#9
jimmyboveto Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: US Guild: Legion of Avalon Profession: W/	Golds were not affected by the loot scaling update. Playing in a party of 8 means you are getting 1/8 the amount of golds you could get my soloing. If you really want that wisdom title, and you don't want to have to pay for the golds... i suggest you do some HM solo farming, such as with a 55 monk or 330 ritualist.

Oct 23, 2007, 12:40 PM // 12:40	#11
malko050987 Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Arad, Romania Guild: The Arctic Marauders [TAM] - now recruiting! Profession: R/	Best way to get the Wisdom title is to buy the 7=5k things. It benefits the seller, and you have a chance to get great items (like a 20/20, +30, 15^50, dead bow I got once). And at about 750-ish gold per item, it's basically like a chest run with a guarantee of a gold drop. Sure, the items are usually crap or only have a mod or two that's salvageable, but if you want the title, it's the fastest and easiest way. Might be the cheapest, too.

Oct 23, 2007, 01:22 PM // 13:22	#12
Khazad Guard Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Australia Guild: No Loitering In The Guild [Hall] Profession: E/	My 55 vanquishes Cursed Lands and she gets more than 1 gold per 100kills :P There isnt even 100 monsters in Cursed Lands

Oct 23, 2007, 04:44 PM // 16:44	#14
Antheus Forge Runner Join Date: Jan 2006	I get 5+ golds per snowman dungeon run in HM, chests included. Probably the fastest way to level those two titles.

Oct 24, 2007, 09:01 PM // 21:01	#17
Painbringer Furnace Stoker Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Minnesota Guild: Black Widows of Death Profession: W/Mo	55 quest Hard Mode exploit in Nightfall (Mutu quest) 2-3 gold per run and boat load of sellable stuff.