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Old Dec 11, 2007, 03:41 AM // 03:41   #1
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Hi, I am just here to clarify some things. I have heard that on Roleplaying in prophecies there is nothing to do once you reach level 20 besides get new gear and do quests/missions. Is that correct?
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Old Dec 11, 2007, 04:41 AM // 04:41   #2
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Level 20 is only where the game really starts to get interesting. Anyway, what more would you want from the game other than more quests, armor, items, enemies, etc?
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Old Dec 11, 2007, 04:42 AM // 04:42   #3
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Correct for the most part. There are several 'Elite' areas that you can do at higher levels though.
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Old Dec 11, 2007, 04:55 AM // 04:55   #4
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Level 20 is only where the game really starts to get interesting. Anyway, what more would you want from the game other than more quests, armor, items, enemies, etc?
Interesting as in how? What can I do at level 20 besides quests/missions/getting best gear?

is there any runs you have to do with a guild or something and get good at. any achievements of some sort to do? anything?
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Old Dec 11, 2007, 05:00 AM // 05:00   #5
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PvE is not where you do guild battles - the battle isles are where you do that sort of thing. Join a guild if you want to do that kind of stuff.

PvE follows a plot and story. At level 20 you finally start to get access to the best armor, and the game ceases to pull any punches. While certain builds can stroll through the PvE game w/ ease, most have to actually start strategizing a bit. In general, a team consisting of other human players will outperform an all henchman team, so that's another big plus. You'll also start being able to capture elite skills, and you can join parties for the fissure of woe or the underworld, which are 2 elite areas.

I don't know how else to answer you, though - the game is about fighting enemies, completing quests, and getting stuff...
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Old Dec 11, 2007, 05:05 AM // 05:05   #6
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The elite areas are the Underworld and the Fissure of Woe, (and Sorrow's Furnace, if it's considered elite). These have provided hundreds of hours of entertainment (for me), and i repeat them even if i've beaten it. And don't assume that completeing all of the quests is easy. There's so many, it's near innumerable to me. And you're given hundreds of skills, with a crazy amount of combinations (of professions and their skills), so you can make your own builds, explore...Guild Wars really isn't that limited; the quests and missions just provide a simple storyline that you're supposed to follow. Many people even skip a large part of the story (in Prophecies), the Maguuma Jungle.

If you do get bored with Prophecies, which i still haven't after over 2k hours, then i suggest buying GWEN, as it's only $30 instead of 50 and provides heroes, 11 dungeons, and so on.

Best of luck.

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Old Dec 11, 2007, 05:15 AM // 05:15   #7
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It seems to me that oh-so-many players here are digging for ways to sink countless hours into a game in return for ph4t l3wtz and e-peen. GW isn't really made for that.

Hanging one's self-worth on something so trivial is pretty dumb, no matter what game is in question. Even the most 'prestigious' instances are a matter of copying a build that someone else created and then pressing buttons in response to AI that cannot adapt.

I usually suggest cutting down on computer time and replacing it with physical activity. Try it for two weeks and you'll wonder why you ever cared about titles or fissure armor.
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Old Dec 11, 2007, 05:27 AM // 05:27   #8
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It seems to me that oh-so-many players here are digging for ways to sink countless hours into a game in return for ph4t l3wtz and e-peen. GW isn't really made for that.

Hanging one's self-worth on something so trivial is pretty dumb, no matter what game is in question. Even the most 'prestigious' instances are a matter of copying a build that someone else created and then pressing buttons in response to AI that cannot adapt.

I usually suggest cutting down on computer time and replacing it with physical activity. Try it for two weeks and you'll wonder why you ever cared about titles or fissure armor.
A lot of people play the game because they already tried real life and for the most part it blows. Then again it depends on your personal situations but in my experience they are both over rated anyway. For example when i take a break from GW i usually find that i don't have anything else to do anyway so i go back to it, or another game for a while. Guess it just depends how much you have going on in your life or have access to...

There are the people who grind titles and quest because they truely want to even tho they have other opportunitys and miss out on real life stuff because of it.

Then theres people who have nothing else to do so do that simply to pass the time half way enjoyably.

For that reason, its very rude to assume the OP or anyone else is in search of phat lewts or e-peen. Or to assume that they are "digging" for it.
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Old Dec 11, 2007, 06:16 AM // 06:16   #9
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I'm gonna work backward on this one.

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its very rude to assume the OP or anyone else is in search of phat lewts or e-peen.
I make that assumption because more often than not, it's true. New players pick up Guild Wars after tiring of Generic MMO #812 and expect it to be nearly the same game minus a subscription cost. In a majority of games, character development is vertical; the overarching theme is the drive to make numbers bigger than they were before. GW, in contrast, expands horizontally. It is this plateau effect that some players will never grasp: "WTF, you mean that's it? I made the max level in three days; this game's retarded" et al.

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There are the people who grind titles and quest because they truely want to even tho they have other opportunitys and miss out on real life stuff because of it.
Bolded for emphasis. This is precisely the audience to whom I speak. No one on earth ever faces the twilight of his life and thinks, "You know, I wish I had watched more television." It won't happen for games either.

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A lot of people play the game because they already tried real life and for the most part it blows. Then again it depends on your personal situations but in my experience they are both over rated anyway.
Life is overrated? Seriously...what are you, some kind of emo kid? I'm sorry your experience thus far has been so traumatic.
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Old Dec 11, 2007, 06:27 AM // 06:27   #10
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unless you get bullied id say that real life > games.

I would drop GW to go out with friends as soon as the phone rings(unless im in a GvG where i'd try to help my team win before going). Even if we're supposed to do top 100gvg(which im too noob to do) i would still go.
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Old Dec 11, 2007, 07:42 AM // 07:42   #11
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Hi, I am just here to clarify some things. I have heard that on Roleplaying in prophecies there is nothing to do once you reach level 20 besides get new gear and do quests/missions. Is that correct?
The only thing that STOPS at lvl 20 is gaining more levels. You can do everything else.
-the game is balanced to provide a challenge to lvl 20 characters - you never get overpowered. You do, however, get so good at using the character that you can do most of the content with one hand tied behind your back.
-You get more proficient by acquiring more skills and adapting them to the situation at hand.
-You get "Elite" areas, where more skill is needed from full player parties (Fissure of Woe, Underworld, Urgroz warren, Kanaxai's lair, Domain of Anguish).
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Old Dec 11, 2007, 08:14 AM // 08:14   #12
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It seems to me that oh-so-many players here are digging for ways to sink countless hours into a game in return for ph4t l3wtz and e-peen. GW isn't really made for that.

Hanging one's self-worth on something so trivial is pretty dumb, no matter what game is in question. Even the most 'prestigious' instances are a matter of copying a build that someone else created and then pressing buttons in response to AI that cannot adapt.

I usually suggest cutting down on computer time and replacing it with physical activity. Try it for two weeks and you'll wonder why you ever cared about titles or fissure armor.
sorry mastrubation doesnt count as physical activity.
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Old Dec 11, 2007, 01:06 PM // 13:06   #13
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sorry mastrubation doesnt count as physical activity.
Clever and classy. I bet your parents are proud.

Also, flaming is more effective when you bother to spell correctly. Thanks for trying though; it was an admirable attempt. You'll get there one of these days.
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Old Dec 11, 2007, 01:38 PM // 13:38   #14
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Playing GW beats clicking the TV remote for hours.
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Old Dec 11, 2007, 01:41 PM // 13:41   #15
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Playing GW beats clicking the TV remote for hours.
It's still 1-2-3 either way.
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Old Dec 11, 2007, 01:50 PM // 13:50   #16
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lol. so true.
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Old Dec 11, 2007, 02:03 PM // 14:03   #17
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GW requires one to be somewhat mentally active. Watching TV hardly requires a pulse.
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Old Dec 11, 2007, 02:51 PM // 14:51   #18
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There is plenty to do after lvl 20. Reaching max lvl isn't the point of GW anyway. There is so much to explore and you're probably only half finished with a campaign if you're just reaching lvl 20.

Finish the game's storyline.

Join a good Guild.

Invent Hero builds and vanquish.

Try another proffession or secondary proffession.

Lots to do.
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Old Dec 11, 2007, 02:55 PM // 14:55   #19
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I've said to myself often: I wish I played more videogames, then I would be able to achieve something at ESL....
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Old Dec 11, 2007, 03:10 PM // 15:10   #20
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Levelling isn't the point.

It's to goof with your builds in new areas even though a cookie cutter build will probably work fine and then get abused by pugs. When you get tired of that, you join a guild and probably subject yourself to 14 year olds talking about the 5 different ways they tried to achieve auto-fellatio and failed.

Hey, at least they tried though.
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