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White knight lord · Jul 19, 2007, 08:25 PM // 20:25

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Originally Posted by Coloneh

i cant stand being grouped with paragons. they really dont add anything to the group.

Well apprently you haven't played with someone that knew what they were doing and on that note I haven't ever played with a sin that actually "knew" what they were doing they would always die before I could heal them because they would just charge in recklessly and try to be a hero and die and no one is good when they are dead...I would definately rather a paragon then an assassin any day

psycore · Jul 19, 2007, 10:50 PM // 22:50

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Originally Posted by Coloneh

paragons are boring and not so useful.

Uh, what the hell are you on?

Paragon is one of the most useful classes in the game, people just dont play it because they don't understand it:

A- don;t take the time to understand how the paragon's chant's and shouts synergise with their own parties skills and enhance them- ie pve players are usually mostly selfish and unimaginative and dont preplan well

and

B- don't have an immediate noticeable effect on the battle field.

Im sure there are others, but all the anti-para rhetoric gets on my nerves.

I play a paragon as a primary character in both pve (mostly) and pvp (sometimes), they can do a lot of things, from defense buffs to offense buffs to bip builds to pressure to tank the list is limited by your skill understanding -use the skills ANet gave you and stop copying the wiki people.

Verek · Aug 28, 2007, 06:59 PM // 18:59

I know this is really old thread, but have been messing about with a Paragon and would like to know, what the problem seems to be with them.

I have been very impressed and can't understand why Paragons are not wanted, the only reason I can think of to keep quiet about them is to avoid the Nerf bat.

Aggressive Refrain + Go for the Eyes + find their Weakness, isn't bad and I haven't got an elite skill yet.

I might be missing something but seems to be a very strong class to me.

brian78wa · Aug 28, 2007, 09:30 PM // 21:30

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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

Paragon really is a support class, and according to the a reccent poll in riverside, is the most unpopular class to play in all of GW.

I would be amongst the people who find it unpopular. It is the most boring char in the game. The buffs really are very subpar there attack style is so slow. Just boring

brian78wa · Aug 28, 2007, 09:32 PM // 21:32

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Originally Posted by psycore

Uh, what the hell are you on?

Paragon is one of the most useful classes in the game, people just dont play it because they don't understand it:

I DO understand them and I agree with him.

brian78wa · Aug 28, 2007, 09:33 PM // 21:33

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Originally Posted by Verek

can't understand why Paragons are not wanted,

I can sum it up in 1 word. BORING.
Not just my opinion its alot of people opinion. In my guild of about 60 or so only 1 person likes paras.

psycore · Aug 29, 2007, 01:05 AM // 01:05

I would have to say to enjoy your close-mindedness then.

By calling the buffs subpar you demonstrate a lack of understanding of them and negate any further comments you have posted.

willypiggy · Aug 29, 2007, 07:48 AM // 07:48

Dervish = Great Damage output provided you spend time gathering elites (ebon dust aura, Avatar of Balthazar etc) but pretty much all of the armor is boring, the new armor from Eotn looks pretty sweet tho.

Paragon = Great support for playing with other humans, when playing with henchies/heroes there not so great as you have to charge in first when you should be in the abck buffing people.

Dervish's (I find) can sometimes find it hard getting teams as warriors can do greater dammage, however Dervish's are fantastic for area dammage due to lots of there skills and the fact that there scythe will hit mroe than one enemy

Choose depening on what you like and how you would like to play.

malko050987 · Aug 29, 2007, 02:40 PM // 14:40

I tried playing a Paragon, but got bored. So far, only Rangers got me interested enough to get to the higher levels.

They're absolutely insane when you have a good one in your team, though. Very, very good support and with a bit of common sense, a good tank too.

I'm not sure about the Dervish, since I stay away from the melee classes. I hate being close to the enemy >.>

higaru · Sep 02, 2007, 08:43 AM // 08:43

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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

Paragon really is a support class, and according to the a reccent poll in riverside, is the most unpopular class to play in all of GW.

What i hate most is ppl who don't know a think about a class and start giving advices about it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i read here and there, its unpopular.... the question is : HAVE U TRIED IT?

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Originally Posted by brian78wa

I can sum it up in 1 word. BORING.
Not just my opinion its alot of people opinion. In my guild of about 60 or so only 1 person likes paras.

the guild i'm in is even bigger, very friendly and helpful, I asked a question once: what is a good second prof. for the par., no one answered, and then i asked: who played the par.? i got over 25 answers saying: NOT ME don't have a clue about it!

dude, don't listen to any1, check a post with this title here in guru about paragon "The Paragon Basics" and c urself.

I have and play a P/D its as good in pve as in pvp!

It's the fear or anything new! or no time to try cause they already have good char. in other classes.

silversix · Dec 16, 2007, 01:17 AM // 01:17

rolf at all those ppl who say dervs have crappyer armor than parags...a derv can get way higher armor with wind insignas and above all it has+4energy regen not like tanks/parag only+2.....a derv with 4enchant+ can be killer machine and could tank 4 parags at once anytime vow of strenght with 13earth prayers+ can tank so badass that ppl who say bu bu but dervs are like sin=weak i say LOL

Coloneh · Dec 16, 2007, 01:23 AM // 01:23

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Originally Posted by silversix

rolf at all those ppl who say dervs have crappyer armor than parags...a derv can get way higher armor with wind insignas and above all it has+4energy regen not like tanks/parag only+2.....a derv with 4enchant+ can be killer machine and could tank 4 parags at once anytime vow of strenght with 13earth prayers+ can tank so badass that ppl who say bu bu but dervs are like sin=weak i say LOL

go back to your sixth grade english class now.

MaDDoG1221 · Dec 16, 2007, 02:01 AM // 02:01

Ive got a Dervish and I love it! Its a great class to go with, They can stay alive with a decent monk or 2 + the right build. They can really dominate in PvE or PvP .

Ive also made a Paragon and he at lvl 17 so far but am still working him out and so far its great!

wetsparks · Dec 16, 2007, 02:33 AM // 02:33

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Originally Posted by silversix

rolf at all those ppl who say dervs have crappyer armor than parags...a derv can get way higher armor with wind insignas and above all it has+4energy regen not like tanks/parag only+2.....a derv with 4enchant+ can be killer machine and could tank 4 parags at once anytime vow of strenght with 13earth prayers+ can tank so badass that ppl who say bu bu but dervs are like sin=weak i say LOL

not only did you bring back a thread that has been dead for three months, you make absolutely no sense in your post.

Aug 28, 2007, 06:59 PM // 18:59	#23
Verek Academy Page Join Date: May 2006 Guild: RAVN Profession: N/Me	I know this is really old thread, but have been messing about with a Paragon and would like to know, what the problem seems to be with them. I have been very impressed and can't understand why Paragons are not wanted, the only reason I can think of to keep quiet about them is to avoid the Nerf bat. Aggressive Refrain + Go for the Eyes + find their Weakness, isn't bad and I haven't got an elite skill yet. I might be missing something but seems to be a very strong class to me.

Aug 29, 2007, 01:05 AM // 01:05	#27
psycore Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005	I would have to say to enjoy your close-mindedness then. By calling the buffs subpar you demonstrate a lack of understanding of them and negate any further comments you have posted.

Aug 29, 2007, 07:48 AM // 07:48	#28
willypiggy Krytan Explorer Join Date: Dec 2006 Profession: D/Mo	Dervish = Great Damage output provided you spend time gathering elites (ebon dust aura, Avatar of Balthazar etc) but pretty much all of the armor is boring, the new armor from Eotn looks pretty sweet tho. Paragon = Great support for playing with other humans, when playing with henchies/heroes there not so great as you have to charge in first when you should be in the abck buffing people. Dervish's (I find) can sometimes find it hard getting teams as warriors can do greater dammage, however Dervish's are fantastic for area dammage due to lots of there skills and the fact that there scythe will hit mroe than one enemy Choose depening on what you like and how you would like to play.

Aug 29, 2007, 02:40 PM // 14:40	#29
malko050987 Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Arad, Romania Guild: The Arctic Marauders [TAM] - now recruiting! Profession: R/	I tried playing a Paragon, but got bored. So far, only Rangers got me interested enough to get to the higher levels. They're absolutely insane when you have a good one in your team, though. Very, very good support and with a bit of common sense, a good tank too. I'm not sure about the Dervish, since I stay away from the melee classes. I hate being close to the enemy >.>

Dec 16, 2007, 01:17 AM // 01:17	#31
silversix Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Dec 2007 Guild: none Profession: E/D	rolf at all those ppl who say dervs have crappyer armor than parags...a derv can get way higher armor with wind insignas and above all it has+4energy regen not like tanks/parag only+2.....a derv with 4enchant+ can be killer machine and could tank 4 parags at once anytime vow of strenght with 13earth prayers+ can tank so badass that ppl who say bu bu but dervs are like sin=weak i say LOL

Dec 16, 2007, 02:01 AM // 02:01	#33
MaDDoG1221 Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Perth, Australia Guild: DOTR Profession: D/	Ive got a Dervish and I love it! Its a great class to go with, They can stay alive with a decent monk or 2 + the right build. They can really dominate in PvE or PvP . Ive also made a Paragon and he at lvl 17 so far but am still working him out and so far its great!