Scatter! - Guild Wars Forums

Molock · Dec 24, 2007, 12:38 AM // 00:38

Ok, so I decided I would join a PuG *gasp* (ya it wasn't a good idea) for FoW. So the typical tank (OF) aggroes and ping for us to attack. I use Rodgorts Invocation and suddenly these people start going crazy.. "omfg who is using burning, it scatters the foes". So my question is... does burning cause the foes to scatter? I mean, I know firestorm and other AoE nukes cause scatter and it has been well over 2 years now that I have been playing and its the first time I hear someone say that burning will scatter the foes.

Thanks, Molock

Darkobra · Dec 24, 2007, 01:20 AM // 01:20

No. At least not in other areas of the game. When I used fire, I used Mark of Rodgort all the time. It didn't cause scatter. It's only when AoE is brought into it they will.

BigDave · Dec 24, 2007, 01:21 AM // 01:21

I've played Ele a LOT for over 18 months now and i've never, ever heard that burning causes scatter. To my knowledge the only thing that causes scatter is repeated, AoE hits from spells/skills like firestorm and the like.

I'd say you joined a bad PUG.

thelessa · Dec 24, 2007, 02:05 AM // 02:05

From my experience it has been Fire Storm that causes the scatter.

T. Drake · Dec 24, 2007, 03:41 AM // 03:41

omfg don't use Poison they will scatter noob!
Seriously I never saw mobs running away from conditions.
PUGs become even more stupid as the game gets older ...

DarkFlame · Dec 24, 2007, 05:41 AM // 05:41

Burning does not cause scatter, only AoEs. They probably just see the burning and assume you are are using something else like SF. Its a pug anyway, so you shouldn't expect much in terms people paying attention to those details.

KANE OG · Dec 24, 2007, 05:45 AM // 05:45

Ele from a week after release. No. tell those people (if they're still on your list) that they're dumbasses, and burning does not cause foes to "scatter".

KANE

Steboy93 · Dec 24, 2007, 10:33 AM // 10:33

Lol, you can tell it was a bad PuG because they were using a tank in FoW

Stormlord Alex · Dec 24, 2007, 11:04 AM // 11:04

No, burning does not cause scatter.

What you winessed is merely more evidence than humanity is breeding itself in extinction.

Darkobra · Dec 24, 2007, 12:29 PM // 12:29

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Originally Posted by KANE OG

Ele from a week after release. No. tell those people (if they're still on your list) that they're dumbasses, and burning does not cause foes to "scatter".

KANE

I've been the same. Except I dabbled in necromancy for a bit. Always come home to the elementalist though. I was elementalist in the beta, too. Back before they ran from firestorm. In the many months and years I have played, never, EVER has burning made them run. So yeah. You get the general drift now.

BFG · Dec 24, 2007, 12:47 PM // 12:47

One more reason I dislike joining PuGs. You join a forming group and have to argue with some people about your build because they are poor studies of the game. I sometimes keep a local AoE spell on the end of my bar for those times when a not-so-adept tank runs back through our casters instead of holding aggro and brings the mob with him.

Zebideedee · Dec 24, 2007, 01:09 PM // 13:09

erm, whats a PUG?

isamu kurosawa · Dec 24, 2007, 01:18 PM // 13:18

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Originally Posted by Zebideedee

erm, whats a PUG?

You don't want to know.

Keep away.

Saphatorael · Dec 24, 2007, 01:40 PM // 13:40

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Originally Posted by T. Drake

PUGs become even more stupid as the game gets older ...

Most people have been playing the game for quite a while now. They tend to get elitist because they've spent 500+ hours in PvE. Doesn't mean they understand the game, though, it is and always will be PvE, not much to learn/understand in there.

Shadow Spirit · Dec 24, 2007, 02:42 PM // 14:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by T. Drake

omfg don't use Poison they will scatter noob!
Seriously I never saw mobs running away from conditions.
PUGs become even more stupid as the game gets older ...

QFT

Burning is a condition. Not an AoE...

Quaker · Dec 24, 2007, 04:03 PM // 16:03

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Originally Posted by Zebideedee

erm, whats a PUG?

Pick Up Group. Essentially, a group formed from random people who are looking to do the same quest/mission. My overall experience with PUGs has been positive - but, yes, I've been in some really bad ones. And they do seem to be worse now then they were.

Yanman.be · Dec 24, 2007, 06:26 PM // 18:26

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Originally Posted by T. Drake

PUGs become even more stupid as the game gets older ...

Logical process. Stupid players never catch on with the entire heroes thing because they keep failing with them, and try pugging because that would augment their chances of success. Good people tend to dissappear into Guild Pugs and Heroes/Henchies, leaving the bad muddafockazzz behind.

iridescentfyre · Dec 24, 2007, 06:49 PM // 18:49

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Originally Posted by Molock

Ok, so I decided I would join a PuG *gasp*

Here's your problem, imo.

Anyway, no, burning in of itself does not cause AoE scatter. Rodgort's Invocation shouldn't either, since its just one packet of damage + burning. Spells like Firestorm, Savannah Heat, Searing Heat, etc do, because they're AoE damage-over-time. However if your team wasn't built around a retarded archaic tank strategy, scatter wouldn't really have been a concern anyway. I still have faith that someday, people in Guild Wars are going to wake up and realize that these areas are not so hard with up-to-date builds and stop using OF tanks.

BFG · Dec 24, 2007, 07:40 PM // 19:40

I did FoW recently where the party leader was a warrior that was determined to use the tanking method. I nearly chewed my hand off from the aggravation.

masteroflife · Dec 24, 2007, 07:51 PM // 19:51

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Originally Posted by iridescentfyre

I still have faith that someday, people in Guild Wars are going to wake up and realize that these areas are not so hard with up-to-date builds and stop using OF tanks.

Thank you for saying that. Thank you very much.

I'd like to add: Tanks is ftl.

Dec 24, 2007, 12:38 AM // 00:38	#1
Molock Desert Nomad Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Qu??bec Guild: Legacy of Angels [Halo] Profession: E/	Scatter! Ok, so I decided I would join a PuG gasp (ya it wasn't a good idea) for FoW. So the typical tank (OF) aggroes and ping for us to attack. I use Rodgorts Invocation and suddenly these people start going crazy.. "omfg who is using burning, it scatters the foes". So my question is... does burning cause the foes to scatter? I mean, I know firestorm and other AoE nukes cause scatter and it has been well over 2 years now that I have been playing and its the first time I hear someone say that burning will scatter the foes. Thanks, Molock

Dec 24, 2007, 01:20 AM // 01:20	#2
Darkobra Forge Runner Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Scotland Guild: Type like an idiot, I'll treat you like an idiot Profession: E/Me	No. At least not in other areas of the game. When I used fire, I used Mark of Rodgort all the time. It didn't cause scatter. It's only when AoE is brought into it they will.

Dec 24, 2007, 01:21 AM // 01:21	#3
BigDave Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Manchester, UK Guild: The Sapphire Rose [TSR]	I've played Ele a LOT for over 18 months now and i've never, ever heard that burning causes scatter. To my knowledge the only thing that causes scatter is repeated, AoE hits from spells/skills like firestorm and the like. I'd say you joined a bad PUG.

Dec 24, 2007, 02:05 AM // 02:05	#4
thelessa Jungle Guide Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Texas Guild: Purple Puzycats Profession: R/Mo	From my experience it has been Fire Storm that causes the scatter.

Dec 24, 2007, 03:41 AM // 03:41	#5
T. Drake Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Dec 2006 Profession: R/Me	omfg don't use Poison they will scatter noob! Seriously I never saw mobs running away from conditions. PUGs become even more stupid as the game gets older ...

Dec 24, 2007, 05:41 AM // 05:41	#6
DarkFlame Desert Nomad Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Ascalon Profession: E/	Burning does not cause scatter, only AoEs. They probably just see the burning and assume you are are using something else like SF. Its a pug anyway, so you shouldn't expect much in terms people paying attention to those details.

Dec 24, 2007, 05:45 AM // 05:45	#7
KANE OG Banned Join Date: Oct 2005 Guild: Ogmios Graybeards Profession: W/	Ele from a week after release. No. tell those people (if they're still on your list) that they're dumbasses, and burning does not cause foes to "scatter". KANE

Dec 24, 2007, 10:33 AM // 10:33	#8
Steboy93 Furnace Stoker Join Date: Feb 2007 Guild: Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] \| Ex-Officer [TAM] Profession: W/	Lol, you can tell it was a bad PuG because they were using a tank in FoW

Dec 24, 2007, 11:04 AM // 11:04	#9
Stormlord Alex Grotto Attendant Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Beyond the Forest of Doom, past the Cavern of Agony... on Kitten & Puppy Island Guild: Soul of Melandru [sOm] Profession: W/E	No, burning does not cause scatter. What you winessed is merely more evidence than humanity is breeding itself in extinction.

Dec 24, 2007, 12:47 PM // 12:47	#11
BFG Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Lost Guild: DCSB	One more reason I dislike joining PuGs. You join a forming group and have to argue with some people about your build because they are poor studies of the game. I sometimes keep a local AoE spell on the end of my bar for those times when a not-so-adept tank runs back through our casters instead of holding aggro and brings the mob with him.

Dec 24, 2007, 01:09 PM // 13:09	#12
Zebideedee Jungle Guide Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: 55?? 57' 0" N / 3?? 12' 0" W Profession: N/Me	erm, whats a PUG?

Dec 24, 2007, 07:40 PM // 19:40	#19
BFG Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Lost Guild: DCSB	I did FoW recently where the party leader was a warrior that was determined to use the tanking method. I nearly chewed my hand off from the aggravation.